An Open Letter to Legislators Currently Considering Vaccine Legislation from Tetyana Obukhanych, PhD in Immunology

Re:  VACCINE LEGISLATION

Dear Legislator:

My name is Tetyana Obukhanych.  I hold a PhD in Immunology.  I am writing this letter in the hope that it will correct several common misperceptions about vaccines in order to help you formulate a fair and balanced understanding that is supported by accepted vaccine theory and new scientific findings.

Do unvaccinated children pose a higher threat to the public than the vaccinated?

It is often stated that those who choose not to vaccinate their children for reasons of conscience endanger the rest of the public, and this is the rationale behind most of the legislation to end vaccine exemptions currently being considered by federal and state legislators country-wide.  You should be aware that the nature of protection afforded by many modern vaccines – and that includes most of the vaccines recommended by the CDC for children – is not consistent with such a statement.  I have outlined below the recommended vaccines that cannot prevent transmission of disease either because they are not designed to prevent the transmission of infection (rather, they are intended to prevent disease symptoms), or because they are for non-communicable diseases.  People who have not received the vaccines mentioned below pose no higher threat to the general public than those who have, implying that discrimination against non-immunized children in a public school setting may not be warranted.

  1. Senator Pan

    State Senator Richard Pan of California, sponsor of vaccine legislation

    IPV (inactivated poliovirus vaccine) cannot prevent transmission of poliovirus (see appendix for the scientific study, Item #1). Wild poliovirus has been non-existent in the USA for at least two decades. Even if wild poliovirus were to be re-imported by travel, vaccinating for polio with IPV cannot affect the safety of public spaces.  Please note that wild poliovirus eradication is attributed to the use of a different vaccine, OPV or oral poliovirus vaccine.  Despite being capable of preventing wild poliovirus transmission, use of OPV was phased out long ago in the USA and replaced with IPV due to safety concerns.

  1. Tetanus is not a contagious disease, but rather acquired from deep-puncture wounds contaminated with C. tetani spores. Vaccinating for tetanus (via the DTaP combination vaccine) cannot alter the safety of public spaces; it is intended to render personal protection only.
  1. While intended to prevent the disease-causing effects of the diphtheria toxin, the diphtheria toxoid vaccine (also contained in the DTaP vaccine) is not designed to prevent colonization and transmission of C. diphtheriae. Vaccinating for diphtheria cannot alter the safety of public spaces; it is likewise intended for personal protection only.
  1. The acellular pertussis (aP) vaccine (the final element of the DTaP combined vaccine), now in use in the USA, replaced the whole cell pertussis vaccine in the late 1990s, which was followed by an unprecedented resurgence of whooping cough. An experiment with deliberate pertussis infection in primates revealed that the aP vaccine is not capable of preventing colonization and transmission of B. pertussis (see appendix for the scientific study, Item #2). The FDA has issued a warning regarding this crucial finding.[1]
  • Furthermore, the 2013 meeting of the Board of Scientific Counselors at the CDC revealed additional alarming data that pertussis variants (PRN-negative strains) currently circulating in the USA acquired a selective advantage to infect those who are up-to-date for their DTaP boosters (see appendix for the CDC document, Item #3), meaning that people who are up-to-date are more likely to be infected, and thus contagious, than people who are not vaccinated.
Senator Steiner Hayward

State Senator Elizabeth Steiner-Hayward of Oregon, sponsor of vaccine legislation

  1. Among numerous types of H. influenzae, the Hib vaccine covers only type b. Despite its sole intention to reduce symptomatic and asymptomatic (disease-less) Hib carriage, the introduction of the Hib vaccine has inadvertently shifted strain dominance towards other types of H. influenzae (types a through f). These types have been causing invasive disease of high severity and increasing incidence in adults in the era of Hib vaccination of children (see appendix for the scientific study, Item #4).  The general population is more vulnerable to the invasive disease now than it was prior to the start of the Hib vaccination campaign.  Discriminating against children who are not vaccinated for Hib does not make any scientific sense in the era of non-type b H. influenzae disease.
  1. Hepatitis B is a blood-borne virus. It does not spread in a community setting, especially among children who are unlikely to engage in high-risk behaviors, such as needle sharing or sex. Vaccinating children for hepatitis B cannot significantly alter the safety of public spaces.  Further, school admission is not prohibited for children who are chronic hepatitis B carriers.  To prohibit school admission for those who are simply unvaccinated – and do not even carry hepatitis B – would constitute unreasonable and illogical discrimination.

In summary, a person who is not vaccinated with IPV, DTaP, HepB, and Hib vaccines due to reasons of conscience poses no extra danger to the public than a person who is.  No discrimination is warranted.

 

How often do serious vaccine adverse events happen?

It is often stated that vaccination rarely leads to serious adverse events.  Unfortunately, this statement is not supported by science.  A recent study done in Ontario, Canada, established that vaccination actually leads to an emergency room visit for 1 in 168 children following their 12-month vaccination appointment and for 1 in 730 children following their 18-month vaccination appointment (see appendix for a scientific study, Item #5).

When the risk of an adverse event requiring an ER visit after well-baby vaccinations is demonstrably so high, vaccination must remain a choice for parents, who may understandably be unwilling to assume this immediate risk in order to protect their children from diseases that are generally considered mild or that their children may never be exposed to.

 

senator mullin

State Senator Kevin Mullin of Vermont, sponsor of vaccine legislation

Can discrimination against families who oppose vaccines for reasons of conscience prevent future disease outbreaks of communicable viral diseases, such as measles?

Measles research scientists have for a long time been aware of the “measles paradox.” I quote from the article by Poland & Jacobson (1994) “Failure to Reach the Goal of Measles Elimination: Apparent Paradox of Measles Infections in Immunized Persons.” Arch Intern Med 154:1815-1820:

“The apparent paradox is that as measles immunization rates rise to high levels in a population, measles becomes a disease of immunized persons.”[2]

Further research determined that behind the “measles paradox” is a fraction of the population called LOW VACCINE RESPONDERS.  Low-responders are those who respond poorly to the first dose of the measles vaccine.  These individuals then mount a weak immune response to subsequent RE-vaccination and quickly return to the pool of “susceptibles’’ within 2-5 years, despite being fully vaccinated.[3]

Re-vaccination cannot correct low-responsiveness: it appears to be an immuno-genetic trait.[4]  The proportion of low-responders among children was estimated to be 4.7% in the USA.[5]

Studies of measles outbreaks in Quebec, Canada, and China attest that outbreaks of measles still happen, even when vaccination compliance is in the highest bracket (95-97% or even 99%, see appendix for scientific studies, Items #6&7). This is because even in high vaccine responders, vaccine-induced antibodies wane over time.  Vaccine immunity does not equal life-long immunity acquired after natural exposure.

It has been documented that vaccinated persons who develop breakthrough measles are contagious.  In fact, two major measles outbreaks in 2011 (in Quebec, Canada, and in New York, NY) were re-imported by previously vaccinated individuals.[6][7]

Taken together, these data make it apparent that elimination of vaccine exemptions, currently only utilized by a small percentage of families anyway, will neither solve the problem of disease resurgence nor prevent re-importation and outbreaks of previously eliminated diseases.

 

Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, sponsor of federal vaccine legislation

Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, sponsor of federal vaccine legislation

Is discrimination against conscientious vaccine objectors the only practical solution?

The majority of measles cases in recent US outbreaks (including the recent Disneyland outbreak) are adults and very young babies, whereas in the pre-vaccination era, measles occurred mainly between the ages 1 and 15.  Natural exposure to measles was followed by lifelong immunity from re-infection, whereas vaccine immunity wanes over time, leaving adults unprotected by their childhood shots.  Measles is more dangerous for infants and for adults than for school-aged children.

Despite high chances of exposure in the pre-vaccination era, measles practically never happened in babies much younger than one year of age due to the robust maternal immunity transfer mechanism.  The vulnerability of very young babies to measles today is the direct outcome of the prolonged mass vaccination campaign of the past, during which their mothers, themselves vaccinated in their childhood, were not able to experience measles naturally at a safe school age and establish the lifelong immunity that would also be transferred to their babies and protect them from measles for the first year of life.

Luckily, a therapeutic backup exists to mimic now-eroded maternal immunity.  Infants as well as other vulnerable or immunocompromised individuals, are eligible to receive immunoglobulin, a potentially life-saving measure that supplies antibodies directed against the virus to prevent or ameliorate disease upon exposure (see appendix, Item #8).

In summary: 1) due to the properties of modern vaccines, non-vaccinated individuals pose no greater risk of transmission of polio, diphtheria, pertussis, and numerous non-type b H. influenzae strains than vaccinated individuals do, non-vaccinated individuals pose virtually no danger of transmission of hepatitis B in a school setting, and tetanus is not transmissible at all; 2) there is a significantly elevated risk of emergency room visits after childhood vaccination appointments attesting that vaccination is  not risk-free; 3) outbreaks of measles cannot be entirely prevented even if we had nearly perfect vaccination compliance; and 4) an effective method of preventing measles and other viral diseases in vaccine-ineligible infants and the immunocompromised, immunoglobulin, is available for those who may be exposed to these diseases. 

Taken together, these four facts make it clear that discrimination in a public school setting against children who are not vaccinated for reasons of conscience is completely unwarranted as the vaccine status of conscientious objectors poses no undue public health risk. 

Sincerely Yours,

Tetyana Obukhanych, PhD

Tetyana Obukhanych, PhD, is the author of the book Vaccine Illusion.  She has studied immunology in some of the world’s most prestigious medical institutions. She earned her PhD in Immunology at the Rockefeller University in New York and did postdoctoral training at Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA and Stanford University in California.

Dr. Obukhanych offers online classes for those who want to gain deeper understanding of how the immune system works and whether the immunologic benefits of vaccines are worth the risks:  Natural Immunity Fundamentals.

 

Appendix

Item #1. The Cuba IPV Study collaborative group. (2007) Randomized controlled trial of inactivated poliovirus vaccine in Cuba. N Engl J Med 356:1536-44

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17429085

The table below from the Cuban IPV study documents that 91% of children receiving no IPV (control group B) were colonized with live attenuated poliovirus upon deliberate experimental inoculation.  Children who were vaccinated with IPV (groups A and C) were similarly colonized at the rate of 94-97%.  High counts of live virus were recovered from the stool of children in all groups.  These results make it clear that IPV cannot be relied upon for the control of polioviruses.

polio chart

Item #2. Warfel et al. (2014) Acellular pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 111:787-92

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24277828

“Baboons vaccinated with aP were protected from severe pertussis-associated symptoms but not from colonization, did not clear the infection faster than naïve [unvaccinated] animals, and readily transmitted B. pertussis to unvaccinated contacts. By comparison, previously infected [naturally-immune] animals were not colonized upon secondary infection.”

Item #3. Meeting of the Board of Scientific Counselors, Office of Infectious Diseases, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Tom Harkins Global Communication Center, Atlanta, Georgia, December 11-12, 2013

http://www.cdc.gov/maso/facm/pdfs/BSCOID/2013121112_BSCOID_Minutes.pdf

Resurgence of Pertussis (p.6)

“Findings indicated that 85% of the isolates [from six Enhanced Pertussis Surveillance Sites and from epidemics in Washington and Vermont in 2012] were PRN-deficient and vaccinated patients had significantly higher odds than unvaccinated patients of being infected with PRN-deficient strains.  Moreover, when patients with up-to-date DTaP vaccinations were compared to unvaccinated patients, the odds of being infected with PRN-deficient strains increased, suggesting that PRN-bacteria may have a selective advantage in infecting DTaP-vaccinated persons.”

Item #4. Rubach et al. (2011) Increasing incidence of invasive Haemophilus influenzae disease in adults, Utah, USA. Emerg Infect Dis 17:1645-50

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21888789

The chart below from Rubach et al. shows the number of invasive cases of H. influenzae (all types) in Utah in the decade of childhood vaccination for Hib.

Hib chart

Item #5. Wilson et al. (2011) Adverse events following 12 and 18 month vaccinations: a population-based, self-controlled case series analysis. PLoS One 6:e27897

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22174753

“Four to 12 days post 12 month vaccination, children had a 1.33 (1.29-1.38) increased relative incidence of the combined endpoint compared to the control period, or at least one event during the risk interval for every 168 children vaccinated.  Ten to 12 days post 18 month vaccination, the relative incidence was 1.25 (95%, 1.17-1.33) which represented at least one excess event for every 730 children vaccinated.  The primary reason for increased events was statistically significant elevations in emergency room visits following all vaccinations.”

Item #6. De Serres et al. (2013) Largest measles epidemic in North America in a decade–Quebec, Canada, 2011: contribution of susceptibility, serendipity, and superspreading events. J Infect Dis 207:990-98

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23264672

“The largest measles epidemic in North America in the last decade occurred in 2011 in Quebec, Canada.”

“A super-spreading event triggered by 1 importation resulted in sustained transmission and 678 cases.”

“The index case patient was a 30-39-year old adult, after returning to Canada from the Caribbean.  The index case patient received measles vaccine in childhood.”

“Provincial [Quebec] vaccine coverage surveys conducted in 2006, 2008, and 2010 consistently showed that by 24 months of age, approximately 96% of children had received 1 dose and approximately 85% had received 2 doses of measles vaccine, increasing to 97% and 90%, respectively, by 28 months of age.  With additional first and second doses administered between 28 and 59 months of age, population measles vaccine coverage is even higher by school entry.”

“Among adolescents, 22% [of measles cases] had received 2 vaccine doses.  Outbreak investigation showed this proportion to have been an underestimate; active case finding identified 130% more cases among 2-dose recipients.”

Item #7. Wang et al. (2014) Difficulties in eliminating measles and controlling rubella and mumps: a cross-sectional study of a first measles and rubella vaccination and a second measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination. PLoS One 9:e89361

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24586717

“The reported coverage of the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine is greater than 99.0% in Zhejiang province.  However, the incidence of measles, mumps, and rubella remains high.”

Item #8. Immunoglobulin Handbook, Health Protection Agency

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140714084352/http://www.hpa.org.uk/webc/HPAwebFile/HPAweb_C/1242198450982

HUMAN NORMAL IMMUNOGLOBULIN (HNIG):

Indications

  1. To prevent or attenuate an attack in immuno-compromised contacts
  2. To prevent or attenuate an attack in pregnant women
  3. To prevent or attenuate an attack in infants under the age of 9 months

 

[1] http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm376937.htm

[2] http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=619215

[3] Poland (1998) Am J Hum Genet 62:215-220

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9463343

“ ‘poor responders,’ who were re-immunized and developed poor or low-level antibody responses only to lose detectable antibody and develop measles on exposure 2–5 years later.”

[4] ibid

“Our ongoing studies suggest that seronegativity after vaccination [for measles] clusters among related family members, that genetic polymorphisms within the HLA [genes] significantly influence antibody levels.”

[5] LeBaron et al. (2007) Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med 161:294-301

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17339511

“Titers fell significantly over time [after second MMR] for the study population overall and, by the final collection, 4.7% of children were potentially susceptible.”

[6] De Serres et al. (2013) J Infect Dis 207:990-998

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23264672

“The index case patient received measles vaccine in childhood.”

[7] Rosen et al. (2014) Clin Infect Dis 58:1205-1210

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24585562

“The index patient had 2 doses of measles-containing vaccine.”

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254 Responses to An Open Letter to Legislators Currently Considering Vaccine Legislation from Tetyana Obukhanych, PhD in Immunology

  1. Anthony says:

    Stay strong, those of you who are acting on your convictions and your instincts. That you are acting from love is very obvious. That pro vaxers are all too often acting out of hate and fear is also very obvious. The truth is simple – where there is a risk, there should be choice. There should never be medical coercion, or state forced vaccination, or discrimination against people who make choices based on their conscience. There’s a war on, and it’s being waged by those who value “science” over freedom.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      I’m glad you put the “science” in quotes, because those that truly value science do not engage in that way. The “social skeptics” as they are termed by The Ethical Skeptic treat science as a religion. When it is a religion, with beliefs that cannot be questioned, then it is NOT science.

  2. Ricardo Beas says:

    Tetyana, thank you for what you have done. I am working on the legal defense against SB 277 and SB 792. I invite you to read the letter I prepared for “employees” to give to their “employers” who might be requesting the mandatory vaccination to retain employment. The defenses there are applicable to both bills, from natural and common law rights, to international rights not to be forced to vaccinate: http://www.cafepeyote.com/files/Vaccines_-_Employer_Notice.pdf

    You will find all my writings re: the vaccine issue at http://www.cafepeyote.com/vaccines/.

    I am at your service.
    Best wishes, Ricardo

  3. Josh says:

    She has a point on dtap, and The polio argument is above me, but mmr. No. In reading just her argument I think it is light. Knowing beyond the article, the other 95% of normal responders get boosters! negates her mmr argument. That’s the one at issue really, ironically. That’s the one where herd immunisation started failing. I think it’s a shame to have to force it, but it’s also a shame that the British pseudoscience published once and never successfully repeated, that mmr vac causes autism, was so readily believed and accepted. So in light of the acceptance of pseudoscience, something needs to be done. Perhaps education of the effects would help, and better tougher regulation of big pharma too?

    Tis ashamed “big pharma” is loosing the confidence of a critical portion the population. That this is become an issue beyond a select few, and not just a fringe.

    • Eugen says:

      Josh, British Pseudoscience? Really?
      Time to hit the books Josh… Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s case series paper – not a study as it is endlessly referred to in the press –
      Said that any connection between MMR and autism should be studied further. That is it end of paper! Also, his findings have been reproduced and confirmed many times over since that original case series observation.
      MMR was confirmed to be a MAJOR risk factor for autistic regression in their DeStefano/Thompson 2001 study comparing 12 to 18 month olds who got the MMR to those who received it after 3 yrs. The younger children of all races, who were healthy before vaccination had a 700% higher risk of becoming autistic than the older children. Not pseudoscience Josh just the good old CDC here in Amerika.

      Of course they buried and destroyed the data and never reported this until Dr Thompson came forward and released all the original data.

      If you don’t like reading that much Josh go see the movie VAXXED – it wals you through the whole sad sorry process…
      Meanwhile children have been damaged and are continuing to be damaged by this faulty, dangerous vaccine!

  4. christy says:

    is there a link or source for the original letter. everywhere i see it on the internet links back to tmr (good work!) but i need original sources for the project i’m currently working. thanks!

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      This IS the “original letter.” Dr. Obukhanych had testified before one of the committees in California. She posted that testimony as a Facebook status. I saw the status and asked her if we could post it on our blog. She said she had a lot more where that came from and had been working on an “open letter.” Was I interested in her raw material? I of course said, “Hell, yes!” And we worked together to create the piece in front of you.

  5. Cookie Hepner says:

    According to the CDC vaccination schedule, a newborn baby born in a hospital has to be vaccinated against Hepatitis B within 24 hours.

    Imagine this: The only way that newborn could get Hep-B is if the mother had Hep-B or if the baby had sexual intercourse or shared needles with a person who has Hep-B. The mother is tested for Hep-B during her pregnancy and can be tested for Hep-B while at the hospital. Yet the law says even if the mother DOES NOT have Hep-B, her perfectly healthy newborn has to be injected with the disease!

    Add to that the fact that newborns don’t have a reactive immune system. They get their immunity from their mothers.

    It doesn’t make sense. NO ONE can make sense of that law.

    • Cookie Monster says:

      The Hep B vaccination protects children for their adulthood when they do have sex. Ask your pediatrician

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        Really, Cookie Monster? That’s interesting, because according to this paper (http://www.medpagetoday.com/Gastroenterology/Hepatitis/647) “The duration of immunity to hepatitis B virus (HBV) from plasma-derived vaccine was generally believed to be around 10 years. However, rigorous determination of the upper time limit for immunity has not been carried out.” Granted, that’s for 2005. This study (http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/53/1/68.full) was published in 2016 and says “Among children who respond to the complete primary 3-dose vaccination series with anti-HBs concentrations of >10 mIU/mL, 15%–50% have low or undetectable concentrations of anti-HBs 5–15 years.” Adolescents, on the other hand, can get the same level of “protection” with a 2-dose series. For the majority, those hepatitis B vaccines were a risk taken on for our newborns with absolutely no benefit.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        And don’t bother asking your pediatrician, they won’t know. Pediatricians know very little about the particularities of specific vaccines — or even the diseases they are meant to protect against in some cases. My ex-husband texted me from his daughter’s pediatrician’s office when the pediatrician tried to tell him that she should be vaccinated “because she might be in a car accident and need a blood transfusion some day.” I said, “Is she saying that donated blood isn’t screened for hepatitis B, because according to the CDC it most certainly IS screened and transfusion-related infection is virtually non-existent.”

      • Terri says:

        The Hep vaccine would wear off long before the child was ever ready to engage in sexual activity. Nothing a bunch of boosters couldn’t fix though – so instead of one shot of aluminum, mercury, animal bits, formaldehyde, etc. lets shoot LOTS into the child’s bloodstream! What a sick system.

      • Melinda says:

        The Hep B vaccine needs to boosted before school age. It makes no sense to give this vaccine to babies, or school age children!

      • Lisa says:

        You have to be kidding me! The damn injections have to be boosted regularly or they lose their effectiveness. What utter garbage. AND 90% of Hep B cases will spontaneously recover. The rest will if interferon and gamma globulin are given over a period of time.

    • Danae says:

      They don’t use formaldehyde in vaccines anymore. If you could save one child from hepatitis b -a disease that has no cure, requires liver transplantation which often fails, wouldn’t you recommend to prevent it? Yes it is spread through blood and body fluids, which children come into contact with all the time with other kids. If it weren’t for the vaccine, they would probably be in contact with it every day. Until you have seen one child in the ICU with a liver transplant or awaiting transplant, you will probably continue in your ignorance.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        Yes, they do. You will find it mentioned 26 times on the vaccine excipient table: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.

        And, NO, the possibility of saving ONE life is not a good argument for recommending a vaccine to EVERYONE which seriously injures MANY more than that, and even kills some. What you’re saying is, “Isn’t it worth sacrificing the health of a good chunk of the country’s population if there’s a possibility that ONE less child will die?” of a disease that is most likely due to either their high-risk behavior or that of their parents. If either child or parent is engaging in high-risk behavior, they are welcome to get the vaccine for themselves, but it is ridiculous to expose other children to a risk in order to cut off a non-existent means of transmission. Children do not come into contact with other children’s blood and bodily fluids frequently in a school setting. If they did, there might actually be a significant risk of hepatitis B transmission in schools, and then perhaps children who were carriers of hepatitis B would be denied entry to school. And while hepatitis B “has no cure” many people overcome it without the need for a liver transplant.

        And, no, your child would NOT “be in contact with” hepatitis B “every day” “if it weren’t for the vaccine.” According to the CDC’s OWN numbers fewer than 1 in 50,000 children ages 0-4 got hepatitis B in a year BEFORE the vaccine was “recommended” for all newborns. I don’t know about you, but my child is not “in contact with” 50,000 children.

  6. Cookie Hepner says:

    If our government sincerely wanted to prevent communicable disease transmission, then every immigrant and visitor to the USA would be required to receive vaccinations or proof of immunity. The government could also do a lot more in terms of border control. It would be easy to list proof of vaccination on passports and visas. That the government refuses to take this one easy step to ensure public health demonstrates to me that they simply aren’t serious about the issue. Hence, all school vaccinations should be optional.

  7. When the time came for me to start a family, I researched vaccinations before I became pregnant.
    Parents were to sign a form stating we could not hold the doctor nor the pharmaceutical company liable for any adverse reaction to a vaccination. That was not logical to me. Then I read the literature inside of a DPT vaccine and shook my head at the ingredients and disclaimer. The more I read on what was in them the more my mothers instinct said, no way! Nothing made sense in the form of protection….except contracting the disease itself. Chicken Pox, mumps, two types of measles; none of which I experienced an adverse reaction to, and according to my Functional Medicine doctor, I developed a life long immunity. What are the kids today going to suffer from lopng term if their immune systems have potentially been compromised by vaccines?

    • C . S . January says:

      Mary I commend you for your motherly gut feeling after reading up on ingredients of vaccinations and the dodging of responsibility from anyone if there are any side effects or damage….
      You see, as a full time father,
      I’ve been opposed to vaccines from the getgo.
      However I was never able to convince the mother of my children that they were bad. Her cognitive dissonance prevented her from looking at any of the unbiased science I’d researched for over 5yrs now. She sheepishly believes the CDC,WHO,FDA,AMA… and their billions of dollars of propaganda to push vaccinations.
      The new sb277 law just hit California and even though I’ve co opted my sons preschool for 3 yrs now and was deciding to homeschool him through the California Virtual Academy, she actually wanted to hear nothing of it and took me to court to get him vaccinated to enter kindergarten later this year. I’ve never been so depressed and helpless feeling in all my life. I can’t describe the anguish I’m presently going through.

      Furthermore because of this topic and other issues between us she has been in denial about for years… she’s wanting me to move out, called off the engagement and is threatening to move to Washington. I was financially cleaned out from the first lawyer that didn’t do shit in regards to protecting my rights to homeschool.
      So now I’m too broke to get a real lawyer that would soon realize I’ve been the primary care taker of both of my two beautiful children since they were born.
      Jordan is 5 and Madeline is 21mo.
      In short I’m being swallowed by the fear of losing my children and them being slowly poisoned …by their very own mother. Where was her motherly gut feeling? Oh that’s right, she has none.
      Take care Mary, God bless if there is one. -Peace sean.

      • michelle says:

        Sean, I am so sorry to hear of your plight. I feel sick for you as you have to endure watching your children be poisoned.

      • AConcernedMom says:

        I’m right there in that same boat with you. My husband wouldn’t read with an open mind, and my oldest ended up hospitalized with a vaccine-induced autoimmune disease. Luckily he has recovered from that injury and now has a medical exemption.

        My heart breaks for parents in this situation. :/

      • Kim says:

        C. S. January My heart is with you! Unfortunately my son and daughter-in-law believed vaccinations were worth the risk and my grandson was vaccinated. He is autistic, in speech and behavior therapy. He is three now and has many more vaccines to go. Try having a conversation with so-called (educated parents) and you end up looking like a conspiracy theorist.

  8. Adrian says:

    Don’t want to give your kids shots? Fine then don’t, just keep them the hell away from the kids that have theirs. You can spout all the random bullshit “scientific” data you want. You people can go create your own schools and your own playgrounds. Nobody wants your kids around theirs. Freaks.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      We don’t usually post comments that call others names, but I thought it might be valuable for people to see the kinds of irrational fear and hostility that the media blitz and the subsequent calls for the end of vaccine exemption engenders. To call the scientific papers that Dr. Obukhanych cites as “random bullshit ‘scientific’ data” is to completely undercut any rational argument in favor of these vaccine mandates. We are told that the vaccine mandates are being pushed because “science” shows we “need” them to “protect” our children, when the reality is that science does nothing of the kind. We “need” them because a greedy and powerful industry has scared a generation of parents into believing we need them.

      It can be very difficult indeed to counter this irrational fear because it has very little basis in reality. However, we can understand it and empathize. Everyone’s goal is to keep their children healthy. The question is what is really the best way to achieve good health? Scary media campaigns notwithstanding, we are at very close to an all-time high in vaccination rates for the “classic” diseases all across the country. In addition, today’s children are vaccinated for many more things than previous generations were. Are they healthier? Anyone with a reasonably accurate memory can see that that is not true, unless, of course, they have bought the idea that today’s parents are simply “looking for” diagnoses for their “imperfect” children or that they lack the ability to “discipline” their children properly. I would ask those people to search their hearts. Can they honestly believe that parents are so much stupider today than previous generations of parents? Do they really think that parents are eager to get their kids “labeled” for normal behavior? Frankly, even though I know thousands of parents of children with “labels,” I can’t say I’ve met any who were “eager” to get their kids with significant issues impairing their ability to function “labeled.”

    • Mary Kay Bachman says:

      If you truly believe vaccines are effective, than why are you concerned about those who do not vaccinate?

      • Damien says:

        The concern is the decrease in herd immunity.

        A healthy lifestyle isn’t enough to protect us against polio, rubella or whooping cough.

        About 80 kids have contracted chickenpox in a school of North Melbourne, Australia because herd immunity had fallen down to 73%, well below the 90% required.

        The propaganda/theory consisting in saying routine immunisations causes more health risks than contracting deadly or debilitating diseases takes on, the community is at risk of losing children to horrible deaths.

        The conspiracy theories of big pharma being behind this move is probably wrong too. It would be much more profitable for people to contract a disease then maintain treatment, like for diabetes for example.

        So in the event you have a baby in the house or know anyone with cancer or on chemo or with suppressed immunity, or someone pregnant — your children could result in a health crisis from any of them.

        We have to be careful not too confuse the need for general vaccination with the small amount of unnecessary ones.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        We’re well aware of what the “concern” is. However, the “concern” keeps changing. Did you know that originally “herd immunity” was applied to populations where more than 65%ish percent of the population had HAD measles? The theory was that that was why outbreaks didn’t happen for extended periods. When they tried to apply that concept to VACCINATION, they originally thought that 70% being vaccinated once should provide the same protection long-term. Only it didn’t. Not even close. To the point where populations with over 95% vaccination rates, with the majority having 1 or more boosters, STILL have outbreaks. In fact, it turns out that there will continue to be outbreaks even if we vaccinate 100% of the of the population because an unknown number of adults will ALWAYS be susceptible. There is a percentage that will NEVER gain “immunity” (by that they mean high levels of measles antibodies, even though it is known that this doesn’t really correspond to immunity) to measles no matter how often they are vaccinated. And then there are the adults whose immunity wanes more quickly than other adults. Each successive booster lasts for less and less time. The adult population is just a ticking time bomb of susceptibility, which is why the majority of measles cases during the Disney outbreak were in adults who had been previously vaccinated and children under 1 who were too young to be vaccinated and NOT in children who were deliberately not vaccinated. The interesting thing is that measles is known to be MUCH harder on those adults and infants than the traditional age range that was susceptible.

        In other words, we’ve traded a relatively benign illness that worked to “tune-up” immune systems, with one that is far more dangerous, and the proposed “solutions” will only make matters worse, while at the same time helping to induce much more allergy and autoimmune conditions in the general populace.

        In addition, if you have a baby or anyone with cancer or on chemo with suppressed immunity in your house, they are at greater risk from someone who has been recently vaccinated with a live-virus vaccine than they are from someone who has not been vaccinated and does not appear ill. They are also at greater risk from someone who has been vaccinated with a DTaP vaccine who could be unknowingly carrying pertussis because they do not appear ill.

        We need to be careful to understand ALL the issues around vaccination.

    • Sarah says:

      Freaks who are waaaaayyyyy more healthy than yours 🙂 I’ll gladly transfer my freaks to a school where vaccines are not allowed. I’ll also take my tax money. Oh wait, I can’t do that. Well, then my freaks will continue to be around your sickly children. Luckily, my PBE will stand for at least 6 more years. You better get some extra doses of the vaccines quick.

    • michelle says:

      Adrian, What are your thoughts on the shedding of viruses by the recently vaccinated? You’re concerned about unvaccinated kids causing problems, I, on the other hand, after years of research, tell my kids to steer clear of their friends who have been recently vaccinated.

    • Bonnie says:

      It’s time you looked at studies that show that it’s the vaxxed that get the disease they were vaxxed for! You’re behind times, Adrian!!

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        That’s a gross oversimplification. In the case of pertussis, it seems that vaccinated people are getting it and are probably asymptomatic carriers that result in more cases than when non-vaccinated people get it. However, that in no way stops non-vaccinated people from getting it. With other vaccines, the vaccines are often reasonably effective at preventing acute infection for some unknown length of time. In the case of mumps, it is clear that the vaccine has worn off for many by the time they are in college, which is why we are having mumps outbreaks on nearly fully vaccinated campuses. If non-vaccinated people were exposed, however, they would get the disease. There is also the question of live-virus vaccines which can and do infect immunoompromised. There are a number of one-year-olds who get “normal vaccine reactions” to the MMR that look (and test) suspiciously like full-blown measles, but they aren’t very common.

  9. Terri says:

    I have read Dr. Tetyana Obukhanych’s book “Vaccine Illusion.” It is essential reading for all but especially for parents trying to make sense of all the information regarding whether or not to vaccinate. If a person can’t see that a scientific approach is taken in the book and is written by someone who has little to gain by writing it but much to lose (as have many doctors/scientists who speak out regarding the truth about vaccines) then nothing truthful will convince you. You have chosen what you will believe without supporting it in any meaningful way – or refusing to accept that some of the pillars of our society might actually knowingly mislead us. Most of the negative comments I have seen here and elsewhere show a complete lack of understanding of the material presented by Dr. Obukhanych, and a lack of general research on the topic outside of the book. As an educator I have long anguished over the increasing failure of education to teach individuals to think for themselves, read and comprehend the central message of a passage (perhaps in the feed above it’s due to those who respond emotionally to protect their standpoint without having first reasoned out what the author’s point is and then evaluating whether or not it has any merit or requires a shift in their own paradigm), problem solve in any meaningful way, and to engage in dialogue with civility and maturity. I am so grateful to ProfessorTMR here for a steady, confident, reasonable hand in these discussions to keep them on point and not flying off on strange tangents which seem aimed at generating further confusion on the matter. The issue of vaccine safety, I believe, is about to be blown wide open, and we need more voices of reason to handle the fallout.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      Thanks, Terri. I try. 🙂

    • Cynthia Ward says:

      Thank you for your excellent reply to the article. I agree completely with everything you stated. The time is well past due for educated people to speak out and be silent no more concerning the issue of vaccination that is fast becoming mandatory. I am a RN working on my MSN in education and it has become my passion to speak up whenever possible. The lack of education concerning vaccines is deplorable and I too, am grateful for people like Professor TMR who continues to speak out about this relevant issue. We have created a society of sick care not health care and we need a paradigm shift concerning taking responsibility for our health and not expecting a pill and a shot to take care of everything. We wonder why we spend more money than any other industrialized nation on earth on health care but we are the sickest. We wonder why there are 35 other countries in the world who have a better infant mortality rate than the United States. We have the most vaccinated children on the planet but our children are becoming more chronically ill and 50% are on some sort of medication for chronic illness. ADD, ADHD, autism, asthma and cancer are becoming all to common among our children. We must stop “racing for the cure” and start eliminating the cause. Thank you again.

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  11. Nikki says:

    For a great understanding of why we OPPOSE MANDATORY VACCINATION, take a look at this video featuring Landee Crier, Brittney Kara, Shannon MKroner and Melissa Eliyahoo. These well-informed and educated parents discuss vaccine efficacy, vaccine dangers, parental rights, medical freedom, and a whole lot more! Please watch, share, and take action to stop mandatory vaccination! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpcbVVMKT8c

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  13. Judi says:

    Please research ADERM Ecephalilitus, my daughter was in hospital for 2 weeks, it is caused from a reaction to immunisations!

    • Mira says:

      First I am sorry for any suffering your child experienced.
      Please make sure you and anyone else who has a child who experienced
      adverse reaction to immunization has reported it to your country’s
      database.

  14. Agnieszka says:

    Hi Everyone, lots of interesting information here. Thankyou!

    I immigrated to Australia thinking this is free country.
    At least there was more freedom here that in my homeland.

    As a single mum I fully devoted my life to up bring my son in a healthy way.
    We live respecting Mother Earth trusting it will provide us with what we need for our health. We eat organic produce that are in season as I think that is a way to live healthy. Close to nature, no processed crap, no fast foods. No TV, no computers. Nature provides so much entertainment but we don’t have enough time to admire it!
    My son is 5yo, very healthy and happy boy. Striving. Full of life and energy. And appreciation for life around him.

    We live happy lives surrounded by likeminded people who respect Mother Earth and each other. And expect nothing else but be respected. By each other. And this each other includes the government too.

    I feel very very sad that the pharmaceutical companies have such a power over the politicians. Politicians who dance as companies pay.
    I was working in the Polish Parliament so I know exactly how it works, this whole law making business. Because it is nothing else but business!

    I am not sure how I will provide for my son and me if the government takes the money away, we will probably move to live in a tent in a bush.
    But my will to live healthy life, far from poisonous immunisations will not be broken.

    However my trust freedom that is so nicely stated in Australian Constitution will be broken.

    Because the government, or rather the pharmaceutical companies, using government as a stupid tool, want to bribe us according to rule: You give your child poison, we will pay you money.

    I still trust there is few wise people in the government who will woke up soon and change the law. Not for me, not for my son. But for themselves, so they can look into the mirror every day and say :
    “I am proud I did not agree for that ‘immunisation bribe’ to come into life. I acted from my truth to abolished that discriminatory law. I respect myself, I respect others and I give them free will to look after their children the way they choose.”

    With respect to all who truly trust that our children can be healthy without poisonous immunisations ,
    Agnieszka

    • Maryanne says:

      God bless you, Agnieszka, for staying true to your principles.

      Though all my children are now adults I have written to the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott telling him how discriminatory and unjust this latest policy is but he’s not had the decency to even acknowledge let alone reply to my concerns.

      He’s an absolute hypocrite because he didn’t get his own daughters vaccinated with Gardasil.

    • Elizabeth says:

      How are you posting on an internet site if you live with no computer in your life?

      • Elizabeth says:

        Sorry, hit send too soon….

        Also, what gov’t money are you getting that they will take away (not familiar with the AUS welfare system here in the US)? Just curious as we move to a mandatory vax system in the US and as I’ve heard both sides thoroughly I’m wondering how that will turn out here (some will just not do it and homeschool their kids which is their choice for sure).

        In the US we have quite a few people who live off the gov’t so they can explore their “live free” lifestyle but they don’t want the gov’t telling them what to do…seems a bit odd since they are relying on our tax dollars to help them live but don’t want to be part of that same society that supports them.

        I find it all very interesting. I was vax’d, my kids were vax’d and we are all just fine. I’ve never met a single person who could undeniably blame vax for their child’s Autism but it’s a huge fear out there. Too much hype on both sides – would be great if we just got the facts but there is too much agenda for that. Sigh…

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        You’re lucky. I know countless people who can pinpoint exactly WHEN their children started to go downhill. It may have been vaccines alone, but more commonly they were in combination with Tylenol (acetaminophen or paracetamol) and/or antibiotics.

        Personally, I don’t know anyone who is “living off the government so they can explore their ‘live free’ lifestyle.”

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        Cell phones are the norm in many countries around the world, even countries that you wouldn’t expect. That’s how we get pictures and tweets from very repressive regimes.

  15. VikingAPRNCNP says:

    Neurobiologic factors — Neuroimaging and autopsy studies in patients with ASD suggest that brain abnormalities play an important role [97,111]. These abnormalities include diffuse differences in total and regional gray and white matter volumes, sulcal and gyral anatomy, brain chemical concentrations, neural networks, cortical structure and organization, brain lateralization, and cognitive processing compared with individuals without ASD [112-120].

    Support for brain abnormalities is derived from the following observations:

    ●Patients with ASD have accelerated head growth during infancy and increased overall brain size (by 2 to 10 percent), perhaps related to an increased number of neurons in the prefrontal cortex [121-123] (see “Autism spectrum disorder: Clinical features”, section on ‘Macrocephaly’)
    ●Functional MRI studies indicate that individuals with ASD use different patterns of connectivity, cognitive strategies, and brain areas to process information during tasks requiring social attribution or response to visual or auditory stimuli [124-133]
    ●Positron emission tomography studies have shown that children with ASD have global and functional abnormalities in serotonin synthesis [134]
    ●Brain electrophysiology studies indicate that individuals with ASD process information regarding faces differently [135,136] and appear to have marked delay in the neural system processing eye gaze [137]
    ●Individuals with ASD appear to have neural-based deficits in recognizing and understanding speech and attending to socially relevant sounds [138-141]
    ●Neuropathologic studies demonstrate decreased numbers of Purkinje cells in the cerebellum (which modulates a variety of brain functions and impacts language processing, anticipatory and motor planning, mental imagery, and timed sequencing) [142], and abnormal structure and organization in the prefrontal and temporal cortex (areas that mediate social, emotional, communication, and language) [119]. The cortical abnormalities appear to result from dysregulation of cortical layer formation and layer-specific neuronal differentiation during prenatal development.
    Environmental and perinatal factors — Environmental factors, such as toxic exposures, teratogens, perinatal insults, and prenatal infections, account for few cases. A meta-analysis of 40 heterogeneous studies of perinatal and neonatal risk factors for autism found little evidence to implicate any single factor in the etiology of autism [143]. However there was some evidence to suggest that the broad class of conditions that compromise perinatal and neonatal health (eg, abnormal presentation, low birth weight, meconium aspiration, etc) may increase the risk. As an example, in one prospective study of a regional birth cohort of infants weighing <2000 g at birth, the prevalence of ASD (5 percent) was approximately five times the rate in the general population [144]. In population-based studies, maternal metabolic conditions (eg, diabetes, obesity, hypertension) have been associated with an increased risk of ASD [145,146].

    Environmental factors may constitute a "second-hit", modulating existing genetic factors predisposing to ASD [36,50,147]. The effects of environmental exposures appear to depend on the timing and duration of exposure, concentration of the toxin, mechanism of action, and distribution in the central nervous system.

    Potential role of maternal medication use during pregnancy — The potential role of maternal medication use during pregnancy in the development of ASD is discussed separately. (See "Risks associated with epilepsy and pregnancy", section on 'Long-term effects' and "Infants with antenatal exposure to selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) and serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs)", section on 'Autism'.)

    Parental age — Advanced parental age (both paternal and maternal) has been associated with an increased risk of having a child with ASD [148-154]. This is perhaps related to de novo spontaneous mutations and/or alterations in genetic imprinting [155]. (See "Basic principles of genetic disease", section on 'Imprinting'.)

    Lack of association with immunizations — Some authors have attributed regressive ASD to vaccine exposure (particularly measles vaccine and thimerosal [a mercury preservative used in vaccines]). However, the overwhelming majority of epidemiologic evidence does not support an association between immunizations and ASD. (See "Autism and chronic disease: Little evidence for vaccines as a contributing factor" and "Autism and chronic disease: Little evidence for thimerosal as a contributing factor".)

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      Terrific rundown until the last paragraph. The ONLY vaccine ingredient studied has been mercury, and the epidemiological evidence on it was rather poorly done. The early versions of Verstraeten’s neutral study published in 2004, showed a whopping correlation between the highest earliest exposures to Thimerosal and a number of neurodevelopmental issues, including autism. The ONLY vaccine studied has been the MMR. The study on MMR timing published in 2004 as well that showed “no correlation” left out a good chunk of the analysis, according to one of the researchers, Dr. William Thompson of the CDC, that showed that in African-American boys autism was three and a half times more common in children who had received the MMR before age three (in other words, “on time” according to CDC recommendations) vs. children who had waited until after age 5. They also found a strong correlation in children who had what they called “isolated autism,” autism that was not connected to any particular known genetic factors or physiological conditions (which would include the children who have “regressive autism”). In addition, the most recent study that was published, which has a number of very troubling data issues when comparing the children who had received two MMRs against the children who had (presumably) received NO MMRs, there was a slight positive correlation between the MMR and the rate of autism (RR=1.12). In a large epidemiological study with a complex disorder such as autism, it is expected that the effect of a REAL correlation would appear quite small. There are just too many factors to isolate the data in the best possible way. That’s why it’s important to compare those with the highest exposures against those with the lowest exposures, and to look at the effect in the populations most likely to be “susceptible,” like the African American boy population noted in the 2004 study. This latest study was notable for having a ridiculously low African American proportion of children.

      In addition, it is likely that the strong immune stimulation that comes from ANY vaccine is likely to be a factor in in the immune dysregulation that is part and parcel (if not causative) of an autism diagnosis for the vast majority of cases. Since 2004, we have added a number of vaccines to the schedule, including to those recommended for PREGNANT women (some including Thimerosal), and there doesn’t seem to be any end in sight.

    • Jane Smith says:

      Finally!!!!! Thankyou for your wisdom

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  17. John says:

    A Dr. Andrew Moulden, another doctor with great credentials, Phd in Psychology and Neuropsychology, MD and a master’s degree in child development, takes this further and said, “Every vaccine produces harm.”
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2014/dr-andrew-moulden-every-vaccine-produces-harm/

    Dr. Moulden explained in detail why every vaccine is harmful and the false science behind vaccinations. He received death threats among for his work on exposing what is really behind requiring vaccinations and mysteriously died at age 49 shortly after stating, in 2013, that he was going to be releasing new information that would be a major challenge to the vaccine business of big pharma.

  18. Judy says:

    Thanks for posting, good article!

    We stopped vaccinating after our third child was born. When they gave me the paperwork for his first round, there was a form regarding the vaccines: did we want killed or live polio, and did we want pertussis administered at a different time? (not sure now exactly how that was worded) Because I’d been reading about safer alternatives for vaccines, and because they asked, I checked killed polio, and split the DTP (this was just before the acellular pertussis came out). The doctor, who was new to us, had a FIT!!! He asked what possessed me to fill out the form that way, and I said because of what I’d been reading. He literally shouted at me, that I’d obviously been reading the wrong information, and that now the only shots I was allowing my son to have were the ones he didn’t really need anyway. What?!?!?! I said in that case I guessed he wouldn’t be getting any that day. When I checked out the receptionist told me the doctor had forgotten to record the immunizations. I smiled at her and said sweetly, “No, he didn’t forget, he just talked me out of them.” We never went back to that doctor, stopped vaccinating, and our kids who are now grown were just fine.

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  23. Cora says:

    Legislators worried about community health should ban gay males from spreading AIDS and STDs!

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      No. They shouldn’t. The only way to “ban” the spreading of sexually infections diseases is to “ban” sex. How would you like it if someone tried to ban straight women from having sex? The solutions to the spread of sexually transmitted infections is not banning sex, but education on how to avoid the spread of disease and helping people feel good enough about themselves and others that they make the effort to do so.

    • Elizabeth says:

      Wow. Just wow. Worry about your own home and stay out of others. Your comment is so offensive – this isn’t how to drag people to your beliefs. Shame.

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  26. David S says:

    This article and subsequent thread is a refreshing ray of light in the dark room of vaccine polemics. Deepest gratitude to Dr Obukhanych for her academic rigor, and also to Professor TMR for tirelessly upholding integrity in the thread that has followed. I feel the arguments for both sides need to be allowed to run their course; the media has obstructed this but forums like this are allowing the sincere searchers to find clear head space. Thank you so much again.

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  28. Kelly says:

    I found this article useful. While after researching the matter thoroughly and with an open mind for each of my three children (because things change in science really quickly), I decided to vaccinate, it is great to know that unvaccinated kids pose no greater risk for the spread of these particular diseases than vaccinated kids.

    I think we have to be careful not to dismiss every study where a contributor has worked in pharmaceuticals — I know how hard it is to get funding in universities and most scientists are incredibly rigorous with their studies no matter who the funder is or who they have previously worked for. But we are all expected to get funding from somewhere and bring it in to our jobs.

  29. Doreen says:

    CALIFORNIA: This Bill is going to become law, unless there is huge uprising of parents between now and the final legislative vote. https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/ca-sb277-on-vaccines-moves-toward-disastrous-passage/

  30. Mar says:

    Hmm, the article is very factual. Unfortunately it uses half-truths to make over-broad conclusions.

    1) It’s true that non-vaccinated individuals pose no greater risk of transmission of 5 diseases. Unfortunately, non-vaccinated individuals still pose a greater risk of transmission of 9 of the remaining diseases on the CDC schedule. So, overall, non-vaccinated individuals still pose a greater risk to society.
    2) The study about an elevated risk of emergency room visits has no unvaccinated control group. In order to determine whether a vaccine is dangerous, you need to compare unvaccinated children against vaccinated children. In addition, major policy decisions should be determined based upon a BODY of evidence, not based upon a SINGLE study.
    3) It is true that outbreaks of measles cannot be prevented even if we had nearly perfect vaccination compliance. But outbreaks of measles would drop in number by a significant amount if we had nearly perfect compliance.
    4) It is true that alternative methods might be more effective to prevent diseases in infants than vaccines. When a large BODY of evidence shows that those methods are more effective and are cost-effective, then we should change the policy to adopt those more effective methods. Until that time, we should adopt tried and true methods that are cost-effective.

    In summary, there is good information here, and all the evidence this woman is stating is factual. However, when you actually think about what the dangers are, her facts don’t actually support her conclusions.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      1) That is an assumption, not a fact. Dr. Obukhanych dealt with the diseases that are generally considered the most deadly, and thus the ones that most officials and other parents are afraid. Hepatitis A is spread from contact with the feces of an infected person. Presumably that is NOT happening in the classroom. Varicella is a live-virus vaccine and can be spread by recently vaccinated individuals or those who have shingles, a disease that is more common in vaccinated than unvaccinated children. Rubella, rotavirus and mumps are generally considered to be minor illnesses in well-nourished children. In addition, Merck has come under fire for faking effectiveness data on the mumps vaccine. Many recent mumps outbreaks, including that in the NFL have occurred in FULLY (recently) vaccinated populations. That means that not only are vaccinated people GETTING the disease, they are transmitting it. According to the Cochrane Collaboration the flu vaccine is utterly ineffective in children under two and only marginally effective in older children. This year’s flu vaccine was a complete waste, and there is some evidence to suggest that repeated yearly flu vaccines can actually INCREASE your likelihood of getting flu in a particular year. A recent mainstream study showed a three-fold risk of hospitalization in asthmatic children who had received the flu vaccine over those who had not. In addition, children who have been recently vaccinated with the intranasal flu vaccine can infect others whose immune systems are less effective than most. I don’t know much about the pneumococcal vaccine or prevalence, but as I only remember two kids being out with pneumonia in all my years at school, I would bet the risk of pneumoccal infection was quite low even before the vaccine was licensed.
      2) Dealt with that in another comment. The study was properly done with a control PERIOD.
      3) There is no evidence that suggests that. Outbreaks are triggered by travelers. People won’t travel less if we have “nearly perfect compliance.”
      4) Until science catches up, people should be free to use alternative methods that they know from their own experience work for them. I’m sorry, but I’m not waiting “a large BODY of evidence” to prove a low-risk, non-invasive method is effective before I’ll try it. For things that are high-risk and invasive, sure. But it’s absurd to think people should wait for a large BODY of evidence to confirm what they see with their own eyes when the corporations who pay for most medical research would see zero incentive for producing that body of evidence.

      • JBH says:

        Seeing my kids reactions was enough for me. I don’t need to see anyone elses. However, I have seen hundreds of other parents kids reactions and that is good enough for me as well. Too much money and greed involved in the science that cannot possibly work which any person with commonsense could figure out. Injecting poisons into the human body is a very bad idea at best. Nature works if you just don’t interfere with it.

  31. Zhanna says:

    Some people didnt bother to read the full article. Great information. May you continue to bring these things into the light. I didnt vaccinate neither of my 3 kids, but my first born was given a Vitamin K shot, I dont know if its needed as my girls are doing great without it. Its understandable that parents who have vaccinated will stand their ground because no one wants to think they “possibly” made a mistake, it would make them feel like bad parents. Everyone has reasons for their choices, some just do everything they are told, others question more and make a decision they feel is best, either way, may your children be healthy and safe, i would sure hope that EVERY parent does what they think is the BEST thing for their children. ( Its always smarter to get more then one opinion so dont be afraid to tell your Dr that you would like to do more research)

    • Mar says:

      More certified, peer-reviewed research is always good. More factual, cross-checked information is also always good. I want all children to be safe. But if a parent teaches their child that, in order to be safe, they need to break the legs of every other child in the classroom, I’m going to have a problem with that. No matter how good the parent’s intention is.

      This author makes very good points that there are unvaccinated people don’t pose a public danger for certain diseases and there are some new immunization techniques that may be more effective than current immunization techniques. But she also makes some horrible points, citing a single study as evidence but avoiding citing many other studies that point to the opposite conclusion or arguing that because unvaccinated people don’t pose a public danger for a FEW diseases, they shouldn’t be vaccinated for ANY diseases.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        Excuse me, Mar, but she makes no such case whatsoever. THIS piece is strictly about the rationale behind keeping unvaccinated children out of school. It makes NO argument whatsoever about whether or not people should vaccinate for anything.

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  33. WA state mom says:

    Those who CHOOSE to not vaccinate their children should accept the financial liability that occurs to the PUBLIC when their children do become infected and transmit their disease to the wider community. This is what happened in our state this year. Rural areas with limited financial resources had to redirect their funds to stop the outbreak of measles that occurred. Basic vaccines have been effective for years. While I’m not advocating for every single one of the many that have been added recently, those covering the seriously contagious diseases SHOULD be given to all children because they can DIE from these diseases. Recall article from author Ron Dahl who lost his child this way. It’s child endangerment to do otherwise.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      Certainly, Washington state mom! WE’LL “accept financial liability that occurs to the PUBLIC “when our children do become infected and transmit their disease to the wider community” just as soon as YOU accept the financial liability for what occurs to the PUBLIC when our healthy children are vaccinated according to YOUR schedule and become UNHEALTHY, often permanently, requiring parents to stay home to care for their disabled children, bankrupt themselves to pay for therapies that give them a shot at becoming “producing” members of the community someday, Medicaid to cover the myriad medical bills that will arise due to the co-morbid conditions. Let’s stop pretending that vaccine injury doesn’t exist and that the more vaccines we add to the schedule the more prevalent it becomes. It would be FABULOUS if it didn’t, but it does. Those vaccines that “cover seriously contagious diseases” have ALL been known to KILL children — speaking of child endangerment. Why exactly are THEIR lives less important than YOUR right to not get measles?

      • Bill Sardi says:

        There is clearly a disconnect here. Dr. Obukhanych clearly pointed out, if children are vaccinated and therefore have immunity, they can’t acquire any infectious disease unless the vaccine wears off or antibodies were not sufficiently developed after initial childhood immunization. Either bloggers launched into criticism without reading her report or simply failed to understand it. You don’t need to be an immunologist to understand this. There is in fact, massive over-vaccination. Only 1 in 2000 exposed to polio virus develop the disease. Most initially exposed children develop a light fever and mild symptoms that never converts to paralysis. Most likely malnourished children are the ones who develop full blown polio. Public hygiene (clean water and food) and fortification of foods is a better approach than mass inoculation. It is said the US hasn’t had a confirmed case of naturally-spread polio since 1979 but from 1980-1999 there were 162 cases of polio, 8 from visiting foreigners and 154 from the vaccine itself. It is far more likely that polio transmitted to a school child today would emanate from the vaccine, not natural exposure.

      • Jason Walker says:

        Well said Professor!!!

      • Paul says:

        Word.

        Professor TMR pretty much said it. It’s too bad the web lobbyists are paid to sell propaganda, not to think. “Let’s all stop pretending vaccine injury does not exist.”

      • Mar says:

        We’ll admit it when there is an overwhelming body of scientific evidence that attests to this “fact” of yours. A single study that shows that some immunized children are sent to the emergency room is useless without a control group of the number of non-immunized children sent to the emergency room. (FYI, such studies have been done in foreign countries that allow parents to avoid vaccinations and, SURPRISE! Non-vaccinated children fare far worse than vaccinated children)

        I don’t pretend that vaccine injury doesn’t exist. It does. Everything contains risks. But adopting a lifestyle to avoid a 1/1,000,000 risk in order to open ourselves up to the 1/100 risk is ludicrous. That’s like saying, “Since 1 in 1,000,000 adults choke themselves with a seatbelt when they have an accident, I will choose not to use my seatbelt to avoid the choking hazard.”

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        I’m sorry, but your comment is absurd. Which “fact” are you talking about? The “fact” that vaccine injury exists? You acknowledge it yourself. I made no comment on the RATE of vaccine injury in that comment. In addition, you obviously didn’t read the study. The case series has a control PERIOD. Administration of the vaccines were associated with an elevated risk of emergency room visit within 4-12 days of the vaccines compared to 20-28 days after the vaccines. The only difference in the two time periods is proximity to vaccine administration. That means that the increase is attributable to the vaccine administration. In fact, many of the later emergency room visits could be attributable to the vaccines as well. That we don’t know. Clearly, the risk of adverse event due to vaccination is far greater than the “1 in a million” you assume. In addition, you may be unaware of it, but there are many vaccine reactions that do not result in emergency room visits at all, at least not in the immediate period following the vaccine. Many of the adverse events associated with vaccines include autoimmune diseases, which take time to develop.

        And speaking of lack of “controls,” what is this 1 in 100 risk you’re talking about?

      • Mar says:

        Umm, their “control” group was the EXACT SAME GROUP of patients. They classified patients who received the vaccine 5-14 days before as a group “exposed to the vaccine” and patients who received the vaccine 20-28 before as a group “not exposed to the vaccine.” Plus, hypothetically, you want to test the health of children years after getting a vaccine in order to determine if there are long-term health effects, right? As you said, these alleged auto-immune diseases might take time to develop.

        In order to lay a claim that “getting a vaccine does harm” and “avoiding a vaccine does less harm” then you should compare a group of patients that have gotten a vaccine against a group of patients that have not gotten that vaccine. Otherwise, the control group is a bit meaningless to the conclusion you are striving to reach.

        Regarding the 1/1,000,000 and 1/100 stats I was citing, I was being hyperbolic to make a point (as you probably know). Citing actual statistics, in the 19th century there were 1,028,162 deaths resulting from diseases that can be prevented with vaccines, or roughly .06385% of the population. Compare that to the 21st century, where there were 24,156 deaths resulting from such diseases. There’s no data on how many deaths resulted from vaccines for the entire 21st century, but the most deaths were caused by the measles vaccine, which caused 108 deaths in the last 10 years. WORST-case scenario, 108 deaths every 10 years for every vaccination, adds up to 10,800 deaths caused by vaccines in the 21st century. So total 34,956 deaths caused by vaccines and vaccine-preventable diseases, or 0.0005730% of the population.

        Summary: a non-vaccinated person is 111 times more likely to die than a vaccinated person, even taking into account deaths caused by vaccines.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        NO ONE is making the claim that “getting a vaccine does harm” and “avoiding a vaccine does less harm” based upon that study. What they are saying is that “getting the vaccines at the 12-month and 18-month visits does more harm than is generally supposed.” The study was intended to determine a picture of the true risk level posed by those vaccines. Neither they nor Dr. Obukhanych make any argument about whether or not that risk is higher or lower than the risks associated with not vaccinating. YOU are laying that onto the study.

        Just out of curiosity, where are you getting your numbers of death from “vaccine-preventable diseases”? Which diseases are included in that? And are we talking about the United States? And, yes, you are right that there is no data on how many deaths have resulted from vaccines because they really would rather not know. The VAERS system which tracks vaccine adverse events is a passive reporting system that means that there is significant underreporting, and that’s just the way they like it. By the way, there is no way of knowing for sure which vaccines caused the most deaths. Many parents have complained that their children’s deaths were ruled “SIDS” or “SUDC” when it seemed more than likely that the death was due to a round of vaccines.

        Now your conclusion, that a “non-vaccinated person is 111 times more likely to die than a vaccinated person” is hardly justified by your calculation. For instance, death by influenza, which is by far the highest number the CDC claims, can and does happen to vaccinated people. The largest number of flu-related deaths occur in older people for whom the vaccine is largely ineffective. Remember the study I mentioned that showed a three-fold rate of hospitalization in children with asthma who got the vaccine? Children with asthma are among those with the highest risk of death from flu. Clearly, whether or not the vaccine was responsible for increasing hospitalization rates it was NOT associated with a decreased risk. In addition, there are over 100 infectious organisms capable of causing “flu-like illness,” only four of which are covered in any flu vaccine. Recently vaccinated persons can shed the flu virus to immunocompromised individuals who would also be at high risk of death. And few people who die of “the flu” are actually tested to determine exactly which organism caused their “flu.” LOTS of confounders rendering your calculation meaningless.

      • Tony says:

        Mar, you said – “Citing actual statistics, in the 19th century there were 1,028,162 deaths resulting from diseases that can be prevented with vaccines, or roughly .06385% of the population. Compare that to the 21st century, where there were 24,156 deaths resulting from such diseases.” Now that is true, however, as you have accused this article of — **** that is only half the truth ****. To use that statistic, you must also speak of when the vaccines were introduced because in some cases, the drop in death from diseases was not due to vaccines but due to other factors.

        You sound reasonable, so I would ask you to look up from the CDC what the mortality rate was for measles, before and after the vaccine was introduced. What you will notice is that from 1900 to 1963 (the year the measles vaccine was introduced), the mortality rate when from a peak of 14 per 100,000 people to less than 0.5 per 100,000 people. That’s a 98% decrease without vaccines. Did the measle vaccine help? Sure, but PLEASE TELL THE FULL TRUTH. The vaccine brought the 0.5 per 100,000 value down to 0.1 or such. It was NOT the factor for the enormous saving of life as you have tried to claim.

        I would expect a reasonable analysis, that gives full disclosure, to address:
        (1) What is gained from reducing the last 0.5 per 100,000 compared to the injuries that it may have brought on
        (2) Each vaccine at an individual level because perhaps some vaccines really was instrumental in the drastic reduction of mortality
        (3) An answer to why the vaccine scheduled has nearly tripled in the last 3 years and if more lives have been saved during that time
        (4) What is a reasonable schedule for parents to give vaccinations.

        Again, a lot of what you are saying is true, but it is a half-truth.

        Data from:
        Vital Statistics of the United States 1937, 1938, 1943, 1944, 1949, 1960, 1967, 1976, 1987, 1992; Historical Statistics of the United States— Colonial Times to 1970 Part 1; Health, United States, 2004, US Department of Health and Human Services; Vital Records & Health Data Development Section, Michigan Department of Community Health; US Census Bureau, Statistical Abstract of the United States: 2003; Reported Cases and Deaths from Vaccine Preventable Diseases, United States, 1950–2008. Vital Statistics of the United States 1963, Vol. II—Mortality, Part A, pp. 1–18, 1–19, 1–21. –

      • Free2BUandMe says:

        Why do people think they have a right to not get sick? There is no such right! Diseases don’t care what you think your rights are.
        You DO have the right to try to prevent yourself from becoming sick, but you do NOT have the right to force the protocol that you CHOSE on me. If you get sick you DO have the right to decide on your course of treatment; this is called “informed consent”.

    • Redpill1 says:

      First Wa Mom, you have to prove that an illness virus free unvaccinated child is or was contagious and was capable of infecting anyone. You pay for the PCR test to determine the DNA of virus that your child may have possibly been infected with. Question: what if your child has measles and an unvaccinated child doesn’t, what will you do? Will you go get a police office and question every child and their parents in the entire school? What will you do when you discover that a vaccinated child infected your child because of a know occurrence called viral vaccine shedding? What’s going to be the compensation to the unvaccinated children?

      WA Mom, I strongly suggest first, you do some soul searching because your lack of compassion for your fellow man is lacking. Second stop listening to the 5 decade propaganda of the CDC/Vaccine industry who don’t give a rats about your child or you for that matter. Your child is a commodity. You are a commodity. If you vaccinate or take drugs, WATCH THIS!!! | Pharmaceutical drug company Whistleblowers: https://www.youtube (dot) com/watch?v=08gmcZsSths.
      Special Report: The Emerging Risks of Live Virus & Virus Vectored Vaccines
      http://www.nvic (dot) org/vaccine-strain-virus-shedding-and-transmission.aspx.

      Time to wake up!

  34. chelsea says:

    I so badly wish that my friends and family would read this. Today people believe the media. Period. Fear rules our world and not one of my friends who believe in vaccinations, has ever done their own research. It truly bothers me. I will be sharing this, but I am sad to say that I can foresee it going overlooked and undetected by those who need it most. Ignorance is not bliss. The blind want to remain blind and have others make their decisions for them.

    • Terri says:

      I sympathize – my own family won’t do the research either. There is research showing that when faced with new or conflicting information which challenges one’s current beliefs, 96% of people will continue to fight for their own long-held beliefs rather than consider a paradigm shift , and only 4% will do the research to discern whether or not the new information is true and warrants that shift. So in a nutshell, people would rather believe what they believe to be “right” in their own minds rather than open their minds to new possibilities. It’s a truly bizarre facet of human nature.

    • JBH says:

      It is shocking isn’t it.

  35. Feli says:

    I have a 7-year old 100% vax-free little boy who has never taken any medicine! Every day I congratulate myself on my decision not to vaccinate him!
    While I admire very much Tetyana’s courage and honesty to come out and speak on the lack of efficiency and the dangers of vaccines, I would love to see her get out of the germ theory dogma 🙂
    There are no pathogenic viruses (they have never been isolated, purified, biochemically analyzed, photographed), there is also no scientific proof whatsoever that microbes make us ill.
    Read historical books like:
    – Ethel Douglas Hume – Béchamp or Pasteur (A lost chapter in the history of biology)
    – R.B. Pearson – Pasteur: Plagiarist, Impostor (The germ theory exploded)
    For modern day virology, real research starts with the german biologist Dr. Stefan Lanka:
    http://www.whale.to/a/lanka_h.html
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ow9rdOdNe0

    All my best to everyone who is willing to get out of the matrix!

    • Kelly says:

      Are you serious? Anybody can see a pathogenic microbe under a microscope. I have just finished reading a study of the Manchurian plague 1910-1911 and the huge help that the microscope was in isolating actual and suspected cases of plague.

  36. Nancy Miller says:

    You know, you only have to go so far to discover that this study method was devised in 2011 specifically to look at vaccines, and its value is still being examined by the scientific community. There are no controls in a study like this, so who knows what the rates are without vaccines? There are no controls for things like environment, genetics, etc., nor apparently for things like linking the ER visit (for broken leg?) to the vaccine event.

  37. Bill Sardi says:

    As expected:
    1. Pediatricians will lobby for what lines their pockets, not what is best for the public.

    2. Scientists will generally proceed in lock-step manner, never opposing the current vaccine agenda or face censure and loss of research funds, except Dr. Obukhanych who broke ranks. Dr. Obukhanych’s outspoken and scientifically-backed letter is countered by the silence of the many other immunologists who know that what Dr. O says is true.

    3. The public, as evidenced by the blog posts, still clings to the simplistic idea of vaccination are good and germs are bad. Vaccines ARE the diseases packaged in a syringe and deliver 3-5 diseases at one time (measles, mumps, whooping cough, etc.) to a child. Vaccines should not be administered during sick visits to the doctor’s office as illness is the sign the immune system is compromised and antibodies may not develop properly. The immune system must be up to par for the vaccines to work. Nutrients (vitamins A, C, D, E, minerals zinc and selenium) are key to development of antibodies and proper immune response including long-term memory of white blood cells (as well as the very survival of children).

    4. As explained by Obukhanych, the public now has a choice, get their kids vaccinated for short-term disease protection or allow their kids to be exposed to infectious diseases naturally and develop long-term immunity and better health.
    5. The issue of disease transmission in the public schools may be better understood by simplifying what Dr. Obukhanych said:
    a. Healthy vaccinated children pose no risk to others except when shedding viruses
    after inoculation.
    b. Healthy unvaccinated children pose no risk to others.
    c. Infected children who have been vaccinated need to stay home.
    d. Infected children who have not been vaccinated need to stay home.

    There is such a thing as vaccine-induced disease which likely occurs among individuals whose immune system is already compromised. This is more likely to occur among malnourished children. More cases of polio now occur in Africa from the vaccine than the wild disease.

    Vaccines are not fool-proof. Therefore total reliance upon vaccines is not wise. Parents need to learn to supplement their children’s diets with vitamins and minerals to optimize immunity and prevent and allay symptoms and shorten the course of infectious diseases.
    — Bill Sardi, Knowledge of Health, Inc.

  38. James boklan says:

    Only one thing shows the idiocy of this article, amongst many.

    Hepititus: children do not take part in high risk activity like sex or needles…. if you use your brain children have more cuts bumps and bruises amongst their peers. Kiss boo boos better, poke cuts, are in awww of blood.

    For someone who spent a lot on education, you sure didn’t learn much

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      I’m sorry, but your comment is incomprehensible. Are you implying that children spread hepatitis B through kissing “booboos”? According to the CDC, “Hepatitis B is spread when blood, semen, or other body fluid infected with the Hepatitis B virus enters the body of a person who is not infected.” Honestly, what do you think the chances are that one child’s blood is going to “enter the body of another,” even if they are kissing “booboos”? And, if, by some remote chance that DID happen, an unvaccinated child who does NOT carry hepatitis B would not pose a risk. Only a chronically infected child, who is considered to pose no threat to his or her classmates and is allowed by law to attend public schools, would be likely to do so. In addition, fewer than 2 in 100,000 children ages 0-4 in the United States became infected with hepatitis B in the years BEFORE the vaccine was licensed. Your child’s chances of encountering another child with hepatitis B has always been quite low.

    • Redpill1 says:

      Who are you and what are your academic credentials?
      Tetyana Obukhanych, PhD, is the author of the book Vaccine Illusion. She has studied immunology in some of the world’s most prestigious medical institutions. She earned her PhD in Immunology at the Rockefeller University in New York and did postdoctoral training at Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA and Stanford University in California

      If your credential don’t match Dr. Obukhanych, just go away. You have no creditability.

      • Terry Harvey-Chadwick says:

        Your argument is a fallacy called the appeal to authority. Just because she has lots of qualifications doesn’t mean she’s right. I thought it was an interesting article, but there’s lots wrong with it. Unfortunately there are lots of ways of presenting evidence, and it’s possible that lots of this is cherrypicked.

        It’s given me lots to think about and examine. I shall reserve judgement until I have delved deeper into the evidence. This is called scepticism, and I wish more people practiced it rather than the numerous comments here that are basically saying “see, I told you so”. One article from an immunologist with a PHd does not topple the entire scientific consensus I’m afraid.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        You’re right. “Appeal to authority” is indeed a logical fallacy. “Authority” has no magic ability to establish truth, though the media certainly seems to think so as they are constantly printing statements from the CDC and their associates without so much as questioning whether or not they are true, even when they are patently ridiculous. And, indeed yes, there are lots of ways of presenting evidence and no one said this is THE way. However, what Dr. Obukhanych has presented is TRUE. All of those facts are available elsewhere, and many of the “I told you so” folks know that. It’s just really great to see the way Dr. Obukhanych has pulled it all together.

        We’ll be posting an article discussing the whole “scientific consensus” issue very soon. I hope you tune in.

      • ann Arceneaux says:

        Professor, Thank you so much for your continued responses. I’m hopeful that some people will start to look beyond blanket declarations of safety and efficacy, identify conflicts of interest, and educate themselves about true risks of each vaccine and corresponding disease, as well as the proven and admitted failure rates. I was troubled but glad to learn that even two doses of the MMR may not provide protection against the measles, particularly since we have a trip to Africa planned in the future. This information should be highly publicized so that people don’t falsely believe they are protected against disease and then unnecessarily put themselves at risk. The current meningitis vaccine is a perfect example. Why is the CDC pushing this vaccine on kids before college when all of the college kids we’ve seen on the news have died from the B strain, against which this vaccine does not protect? Shouldn’t they be educating these kids on how to prevent transmission and protect themselves? With so many more vaccines currently on the market and many more to come, it is in everyone’s best interest to come together to advocate for transparency in our nation’s vaccine program so that conflicts of interest and fraud cannot hide information from the citizens of this nation. These agencies are supposed to work FOR us, not hide information from us. It’s unfortunate that many people react from a sense of fear or resentment at the suggestion that they are wrong to give their trust to a government agency, such blind trust being neither warranted nor wise. It’s so much easier to fool someone than to get someone to admit they’ve been fooled. The angry tirades by some help no one and continually distract from simply facts. People should note – the inactivated polio vaccine only provides personal protection, will not protect against the wild virus and may even make a case of wild polio more dangerous to the recipient. This isn’t controversial. It’s just good information. Again, how many people think they are totally protected against polio when they travel abroad? The pertussis vaccine has a very short efficacy period. Boosters for older children and adults have not changed the rate of infant cases. Recent research indicates that recipients can actually transmit the virus. This is extremely helpful information for those recently vaccinated who will be interacting with infants. Why aren’t those who want this vaccine so thankful to know this? Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for continuing to provide informative responses.

  39. Larelin says:

    So unvaccinated people pose no danger to the general public.
    OK.. Got it… So why should ANYONE vaccinate, right? I mean.. If 95% percent if people started thinking the way all of you do.. That would pose no risk.. Correct?
    From now on.. None of the people who thinks this way needs to prevent their scions from vaccinating (no harm.. Correct?) for decades and decades to come.. NOTHING happen because of this, right?
    Or.. If my arguemwnt is waaaaay out there, doesn’t your “I don’t want to be FORCED to do something” only a luxury you can have because the large percent of the population IS DOING the responsible thing and getting vaccinated?

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      You’re starting with an incorrect assumption. You assume that people who are not vaccinating have the same fear of and desire to avoid short-term acute infections that those who vaccinate have. The people who have chosen not to vaccinate are aware that there is a risk that their children will contract short-term acute infections. Many of them do not only not FEAR that situation, they are also aware that those infections often serve to help the development of the children’s immune system. Many would much rather that their child encountered chicken pox or measles or rubella early in childhood when they pose no particular threat to the vast majority of people and may help their immune system to conquer more threatening situations later in life, than be having to vaccinate and re-vaccinate in an attempt to avoid that immune system challenge. So, no, it’s not a “luxury” that we have because a large percentage of the population is getting vaccinated. On the contrary, others’ vaccinations are making it less likely that our children will encounter the wild disease at a time when it would be most beneficial to do so and more likely that they will encounter them as adults when they would be far more dangerous.

      More people are thinking this way perhaps than were in the past, but you have to agree that, since vaccination rates tend to be in the 90-100% range at the moment, we’re a heck of a long way from 95%, especially for certain illnesses. But aside from that, the point of this article is that whether or not they vaccinate and whether or not unvaccinated individuals get sick, they do not pose a threat to those who DO vaccinate over and above the risk they already face, unless of course those individuals are sick and are contagious. But the same is true for vaccinated individuals who are sick and contagious. Who is more likely to KNOW that he/she is contagious, however, and stay home, the person who has not been vaccinated and knows he/she is at risk? Or the person who HAS been vaccinated and feels him/herself to be “protected” and therefore incapable of contracting or transmitting an acute illness (neither of which is true, by the way)?

      • BJ says:

        Didn’t think the article could have spelled it out any plainer and yet, some readers didn’t get it. (maybe they only “skimmed” the info) Thanks to you, Professor TMR, for simplifying and clarifying even further.

      • Kim says:

        And it works both ways.
        My sister has two children who were premies. They have special heath considerations.
        Currently, they both have pneumonia because a parent, a vaccinating parent, sent her kid to school all week sick and the older of my sisters kids got sick and brought it home.
        ANY parent who sends their kid to school sick can infect ANY child with an illness that may be no big deal to their kid, but a VERY big deal to someone else’s. I do not find most non-vaccinating parents do this…it is the sanctimonious vaccinating parents who do.
        “It’s just a cold” and “I have to go to work” (…so I need free childcare) does not help my sister who has had zero sleep in days, who has been to the hospital with her littles and seen fevers of 105. I am praying this bug isn’t abx resistant!
        So who do we hold accountable? If you are going to require this of non-vaccinating parents, we get to hold you accountable when you send your shedding, vaccinating kid to school and get my sister’s kid sick with a (to them) deathly illness, right?

    • MICKI says:

      Larelin, Did you read this letter? I found it to be a clear explanation backed with studies, which I also read, of how unvaccinated children are no threat to the public. It also points out how vaccinated children themselves are more vulnerable than unvaccinated children to pertussis and measles. I suggest you re read it.

    • Redpill1 says:

      “So unvaccinated people pose no danger to the general public.”
      No they don’t. Please provided Independent study that confirms they do.

      “So why should ANYONE vaccinate, right?”
      They shouldn’t. Very few members of the Amish community vaccinated and they are far healthier than the general population. The Late Dr. Mayer Eisenstein’s HomeFirst practice in Chicago has 35,000 completely un-vaccinated children who have completely avoided autism.

      ” I mean.. If 95% percent if people started thinking the way all of you do.. That would pose no risk.. Correct?”
      Correct. Because of the increase in vaccinations this is what has happened to the children in this country:
      U.S. CHILD CHRONIC DISEASE INCREASES
      1976: 1 child in 30 was learning disabled
      →2013: 1 child in 6 is learning disabled.

      1980: 1 child in 27 had asthma
      →2013: 1 child in 9 has asthma.

      1990’s: 1 child in 555 developed autism
      →2013: 1 child in 50 develops autism.

      2001: 1 child in 500 had diabetes
      →2013: 1 child in 400 has diabetes.

      THREE TIMES AS MANY VACCINATIONS FOR CHILDREN
      1953: CDC recommended 16 doses of 4 vaccines (smallpox, DPT) between two months and age six.
      1983: CDC recommended 23 doses of 7 vaccines (DPT, MMR, polio) between two months and age six.
      2013: CDC recommended 49 doses of 14 vaccines between day of birth and age six and 69 doses of 16 vaccines between day of birth and age 18.

      Over 50% of children have a chronic condition and 1 in 6 have a neurodevelomental disorder (aka vaccine caused brain injury). Autism and autoimmune disorders are skyrocketing. Injecting aluminum, mercury, aborted fetal tissue, formaldehyde, MSG, diseased monkey kidney, etc. does not bring health.
      Trends in the Prevalence of Developmental Disabilities in US Children, 1997–2008
      http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/127/6/1034.abstract
      The increase in chronic and neurological disorders directly correlates with the increase in the childhood vaccination schedule and the increase in toxins in the vaccines.

      “large percent of the population IS DOING the responsible thing and getting vaccinated?”
      -There are NO SCIENTIFIC INDEPENDENT double blind placebo based controlled studies that confirm that vaccines are effective or safe.
      -There is NO SCIENTIFIC INDEPENDENT evidence on ANY study which can confirm the long-term safety and effectiveness of vaccines?
      -There are INDEPENDENT scientific studies that substantiate that disease reduction in any part of the world at any time in history was due to the inoculation of its population.
      If you can provide them–please do.

      Until than the responsible thing for anyone to do is follow their conscience and do their research. Since measles seem to be the focus because of Disney this is what Dr. Poland of the Mayo Clinic wrote:
      “The measles vaccine has failed, he explained two years ago in a prescient paper, “The re-emergence of measles in developed countries.” In that paper, he warned that due to factors that most haven’t noticed, measles has come back to be a serious public health threat. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih (dot) gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905323/. Back in 1994 Poland wrote:
      The apparent paradox is that as measles immunization rates rise to high levels in a population, measles becomes a disease of immunized persons. . http://archinte.jamanetwork (dot) com/article.aspx?articleid=619215
      Tod Merkel of the FDA study concluded: “The research suggests that while the vaccine may keep people from getting sick, it doesn’t prevent them from spreading whooping cough — also known as Pertussis — to others. & “When you’re newly vaccinated, you are an asymptomatic carrier, which is good for you, but not for the population.” Acellular Pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model,” http://www.pnas.org/content/111/2/787.

      So it looks like your little vaccinated sweetie will most likely be patient zero. BTW: CDC announced they have never found patient zero who supposedly started the Disney outbreak-don’t know the gender, age, where that person is from or anything. Unknown entity. But they do know where the 68% of the fully vaccinated people are. They do know where the people are who have had 1-2 shots. The few unvaccinated, are too far along the chain to be the cause and the CDC hasn’t released all the PCR test results. Can’t imagine why.

      One mom made a comment I think is very profound:
      Why should I set my child on fire to keep yours warm!

      • Redpill1 says:

        There are INDEPENDENT scientific studies that substantiate that disease reduction in any part of the world at any time in history was due to the inoculation of its population.

        That should read:

        There are NO INDEPENDENT scientific studies that substantiate that disease reduction in any part of the world at any time in history was due to the inoculation of its population.

  40. Dee says:

    This is many For Professor TMR but also to whomever it may concern:

    Please let me try to facilitate a possibly beneficial connection with the author of a controversial autism book, which can be downloaded for free from now on from her website. What is sparking my urge to share this information with people (concerned parents) here, is that there are obvious similarities in how grassroots efforts to making a difference are attempted to be silenced by the misinformed “mainstream” at first.

    I would like to positively encourage anyone to continue thinking for themselves and work constructively to solve the issues and problems they are facing and share with others to empower each other, in spite of the critics.

    Autism for example may have several causes but as with vaccination and other medication mishaps, there is probably no one-fits-all solution for most challenges in life. However, elements of solutions to one problem, may hold promise when applied to another problem.

    So please, anyone concerned about vaccine side effects and other health issues, obtain a free downloadable copy of Ms Rivera’s book in pdf format and rejoice in reading both the book, videos and the website, hopefully connecting some more dots in your individual health journeys… Wishing you peace, love and strength.

    Link here: http://www.healingthesymptomsknownasautism.com/response-to-the-critics/

  41. Facts versus perception.

    Humans have been deceived by the fact that public ‘silence’ is CONsent, the great CON of humanity. In other words, silence is permission for government to govern as they please. http://www.naturalnews.com/049449_SB277_California_Senate_mandatory_vaccination.html

  42. Rebecca says:

    Well done, thank you for writing this in the face of criticism.
    We all thank you very much.

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  44. Tessa says:

    I really appreciated this article. I decided not to vaccinate my daughter, as well as myself, while I was pregnant. But I did a LOT of research, and just never felt comfortable vaccinating. And wasn’t seeing the safety or science backing up vaccines. But this was a great read, easy to understand, with a lot of good links. Can’t wait to post it on Facebook.

  45. Maria O says:

    Great article based on solid arguments and science. I wish that Californian politicians would listen to reason and would prevent SB 277 to become law.

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  47. Nina Kirillova says:

    Thank you, Tetyana! We need more people and scientists like you!

  48. Concerned Citizen says:

    Good news! One less side effect from vaccines for everyone to worry about. This is a big one, though, so I’m interested in the reaction: http://www.vocativ.com/culture/science/no-link-autism-and-vaccines-mmr/

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      Yeah, “Concerned,” I’ll bet you are. The reaction? “It seems silly that this is still an argument.” “they all agree that vaccines do not cause autism.” First paragraph makes it clear that this is a propaganda piece not a news item. It’s “silly” to question investigate something that thousands of parents say made their children sick. And “they all agree” implying all questions have been answered and that there aren’t many extremely qualified professionals who do NOT agree (including the ex-HEAD of the NIH, Dr. Bernardine Healy).

      The study itself is interesting. I’ll read the whole thing in a little while, but I’m already intrigued that there are half as many cases of ASD in the younger siblings than the older siblings. Implies that in the younger cohort, many of the cases have yet to be diagnosed. It’s also intriguing that the vast majority of the younger cases do NOT have older siblings with ASD, despite the fact that THOSE parents would be far more likely to be “on top of” a diagnosis, wouldn’t they? Kind of blows that whole “it’s all genetic idea” out of the water, doesn’t it?

      • Redpill1 says:

        Follow-UP: Independent Study Finding No MMR Autism Link Not So Independent

        Study:
        “Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children with Older Siblings With and Without Autism” http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444

        The same groups that paid for the RAND study back in July 2014 paid for this study. Funding source is disclosed on the bottom of the study.

        -Conflict of Interest Disclosures: All authors have completed and submitted the ICMJE Form for Disclosure of Potential Conflicts of Interest. Dr Jain, Ms Marshall, and Mr Kelly report being employees of The Lewin Group. Ms Buikema and Dr Bancroft are employees of Optum. Optum is a wholly owned subsidiary of UnitedHealth Group and The Lewin Group is an Optum company. The Lewin Group operates with editorial independence. No other disclosures are reported.

        Funding/Support: This project was funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, National Institutes of Health, and the US Department of Health and Human Services under contract HHSN-271-2010-00033-C.

        ****Dollars for Doc shown dozens of payments to various subsidiaries under the Lewin group from the pharmaceutical industry. This study is equally as bias as the RAND and like the RAND study for genuine scientist, not the ones on pharma payroll, it has no creditability.

    • Redpill1 says:

      JAMA done by Industry Insiders:
      Independent Study Finding No MMR Autism Link Not So Independent

      activistpost.com/2015/04/independent-study-finding-no-mmr-autism.html
      By Brandon Turbeville and Heather Callaghan

      For those who may be critical of the process of vaccination, particularly its safety and effectiveness, it is a known fact that there has never been a study proving safety or effectiveness that was not linked to a pharmaceutical firm or vaccine maker.[1] Indeed, if vaccines were so easy to prove safe and effective, then certainly an entirely government-funded or independent agency would have done so by now.

      With the recent mainstream media hype, however, one would be tempted to believe that such an independent study has finally taken place proving that the MMR vaccine is not linked to autism. However, brief research into the allegedly independent “review panel” of the new darling of the month “MMR is not related to autism study” reveals that this is not the case.

      For instance, the organization that conducted the study is the Lewin Group, a corporate healthcare consulting firm based in Falls Church, Virginia. The Lewin Group works with a wide range of players in the medical establishment. Most notably major pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson and Novo Nordisk among others…

      BTW: LEFT OUT from this “study” was how many other vaccinations (other than MMR) were given, AND, these kids’ autism-spectrum damage were cited at “no increased risk” compared to their already stricken siblings. Also omitted were the kids’ ages when receiving their shots. THIS STUDY IS GARBAGE-just like the RAND STUDY released in July 2014.

    • tom woolf says:

      I do not understand why there is still public debate on whether vaccines cause autism. There is a court, called Vaccine Court, for short, that has usurped and otherwise circumvented conventional “justice”, if there still is such a thing in this country. If you are lucky enough to “qualify” for this court to hear your case and you submit a preponderance of evidence confirming the link between vaccines and autism it is all brushed aside. They will tell you “we already know there is a link between vaccines and autism. What we are here for today is to determine whether there is in your child’s case or not.” That is a quote from what they told the parents of some folks I know.
      The debate rages, nonetheless, because the media permits it to and encourages it. The media has NO interest in facts or truth. Only yesterday there was another incident on the front page of the Sunday, April 26, edition of the San Francisco Chronicle which mentions Andrew Wakefield, the discredited research scientist regarding MMR vaccine and autism. And, make note, NPR has done the same, as well as numerous other “news” outlets. The problem here………..Andrew Wakefield, as of about 2 1/2 YEARS ago, was FULLY exonerated by the British High Court of ALL charges. All the claims made against him were baseless and without cause. What a fake, contrived and falsely controlled world we are living in.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        Wakefield himself was not exonerated, fully or otherwise, by the British court, his colleague and co-author, Dr. John Walker-Smith was. The charges for both of them were very similar, however, and it seems clear that a true investigation into Wakefield’s case would yield a similar result.

  49. Parable151 says:

    Thank you for the good information. As a scientist I get so frustrated by how disingenuous some are. It’s okay and required to question other scientists work but not the public and they don’t understand why people don’t trust them.

  50. Kim Mason says:

    Is this an example of someone who achieved their professional credentials before they succumbed to mental illness. So everyone in the World Health Organisation is intellectually inferior. Sure thing honey!

  51. Irina says:

    You only cover some vaccines, what about all the other ones? How about whooping cough which can be transmitted by an unvaccinated child to someone who is too young or is unable to vaccinate for health reasons?

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      *sigh* Pertussis, which is well covered in #4 above, IS “whooping cough.”

      • Joan O'Sullivan says:

        Many people who do not work in the medical field will be unaware that whooping cough is also called pertussis. It does your cause no good to reply to this question in such a condescending and impolite manner.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        You may be right. However, my “cause” is children’s health, and I get tired of people criticizing our posts on vaccines without knowing what they are talking about. Unfortunately, many people come here thinking that they are going to take the “crazy, anti-science anti-vaxxers” to task for their “misinformation,” and then make it glaringly obvious that they know far less about the subject than the vast majority of readers. If that was not her intent, then I apologize. I am happy to help people who are looking for information.

    • You’re kidding right??? SMH

  52. Pat Robinson says:

    PLEASE SHARE: Mayo Clinic Discovers African-Americans Respond Better to Rubella Vaccine – Findings May Help Make Immunizations More Effective and Safer

    This Merck vaccine immunologist consultant says that genetics cause different responses – and perhaps safety – in African Americans, Caucasians and Hispanics. That the “one size fits all” approach to vaccines is dated.

    “We may be able to reduce costs. We may be able to reduce the amount of side-effects. If you only need half as much vaccine to reach the same level of protection, we are adding cost, and potentially risk, by giving you double what you actually need.”
    (Time stamp 3:30.)

    “If we have seen this kind of dramatic difference with this vaccine, will we see it with another vaccine? The answer is yes. We have seen that with other vaccines.”
    (Time stamp 3:50.)

    Wow. EVERY legislator needs to see this video!! Stop the presses, this video needs everyone to see it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC4eyi8h1UA

    I’m still fascinated about the impaired CYP450 detoxification (of pharmaceuticals and adjuvants) occurring in some races and wondering if that isn’t a variable of the “more responsive” immunity Poland is observing.

    The whole point of the adjuvants is to increase responsiveness to the vaccine, per my understanding. It would follow that ‘too much’ adjuvant creates hyper-immune responses (ie autoimmunity issues over time).

    We need a transcript of this video before it disappears.

    Mayo Clinic: http://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-discovers-african-americans-respond-better-to-rubella-vaccine/

    Pat

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      Which reminds me of something that I was unaware of until quite recently: the HPV strains that most commonly cause cancer in African-American women are not the same as the ones that cause cancer in white women, and ARE NOT CONTAINED IN THE HPV VACCINE. How many doctors do you think are telling their African-American clients that the HPV vaccine is unlikely to be of any use to them whatsoever? http://corporate.dukemedicine.org/news_and_publications/news_office/news/hpv-strains-affecting-african-american-women-differ-from-vaccines

    • Redpill1 says:

      On April 27, 2012, a formal complaint was filed in the Eastern Pennsylvania Federal District Court accusing Merck of a longstanding scheme to mislead and defraud Government health authorities worldwide. Two of Merck’s former employees have accused the pharmaceutical giant of marketing multivalent MMR vaccines under false pretenses. According to the complaint, these vaccines have been mislabeled, misbranded, adulterated and falsely certified as having a 95% efficacy rate.

      Court documents filed by two Merck virologists meticulously detail how Merck ostensibly manipulated test results 2 for decades in order to create a false 95% efficacy rate for the mumps component of their multivalent MMR vaccines.

      The former Merck virologists contend that the multivalent mumps component has a vastly reduced efficacy which is directly responsible for mumps outbreaks during the last decade which prompted international calls for MMR booster shots every 4 – 8 years.

      Virologists Stephen Krahling and Joan Wlochowski describe how Merck had to recertify the mumps component in 2000, in order to comply with regulatory requirements in order for the mumps component to be included in two new multivalent MMR vaccines. The usual test, which had certified the mumps component’s efficacy in the 60’s, failed when used in 2000. They claim the results were so low Merck decided to change its own test protocol by testing the vaccine against the weakened mumps vaccine virus instead of the wild (naturally circulating) mumps virus.

      When that modification didn’t result in the desired 95% efficacy figure, Merck’s executive directors of vaccine research, Drs Alan Shaw and Emilio Emini, instructed Drs David Krah and Mary Yagodich to implement a vast array of modifications to testing procedures3, then, allegedly pressured both Krahling and Wlochowski to participate.

      By combining the very low levels of human antibodies with animal antibodies, a much higher total level of virus neutralization was obtained than could occur from human antibodies alone. The human antibody levels alone would never protect in the real world against wild mumps. But after adding animal antibodies, the human blood samples which had previously failed under the old “gold standard” testing were retested using the “enhanced” protocols and passed with flying colors. New ‘enhanced’ tests showed 100% efficacy, not against wild mumps virus, but against the mumps vaccine virus. -http://www.naturalnews (dot) com/048483_vaccine_research_scientific_fraud_Merck.html
      -United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. Civil action No. 10-4374. “Complaint for Violations of the Federal False Claims Act.”
      http://www.naturalnews (dot) com/gallery/documents/Merck-False-Claims-Act.pdf
      -Judge: Lawsuit Against Merck’s MMR Vaccine Fraud to Continue
      http://healthimpactnews (dot) com/2014/judge-lawsuit-against-mercks-mmr-vaccine-fraud-to-continue/
      -http://www.law360 (dot) com/classaction/articles/574389
      -Issued by Judge explaining his ruling.
      http://www.rescuepost (dot) com/files/59-opinion.pdf

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  54. Elena says:

    I want to know how I`ve been deceived

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  56. Num Guy says:

    Sadly, vaccine makers have no incentive to change their ways. They make huge profits but are totally protected from lawsuits because Congress granted them immunity in 1986. We the taxpayers are paying for

    the damages they are causing. Sound familiar? Privatizing profits while socializing risk!! If you want to change this, please sign this petition on Moveon.org.

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/repeal-immunity-for-drug

    Kindly pass this on to everyone you know. Together, hopefully, we can make a difference!

  57. Considerate mom says:

    No one is forcing parents to vaccinate their children. We only ask that they consider the public’s health. If you do not want your children to be vaccinated then homeschool them. Unvaccinated children should not be granted admission in the public school system.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      People who do not vaccinate DO consider public health and, as made clear by this blog, are NOT endangering other children in a public school setting. As Dr. Obukhyanych lays out very logically and methodically, there is no reason to require non-vaccinated children to be homeschooled.

      Oh, and by the way, legislators ARE attempting to “force” children to be vaccinated. The bill in California was intended to take away ALL vaccine exemptions, even for homeschoolers.

    • Lisa says:

      Did you not read the entire letter? She explains which vaccinations have no effect on public health, and which ones are showing their ineffectiveness and why. And yes, a bill that requires vaccination for all regardless, and is tied into compulsory education laws, is forcing them to vaccinate. Before SB277 was amended, the law included homeschoolers as well, because of what the law requires of homeschoolers. Even with the amendment now, it leaves out the majority of homeschoolers. But I will leave that up to you to research why that is.

    • ibcarlo says:

      That would create a “separate but equal” state. Same as segregating individuals based on the color of their skin. This is not considerate at all.

    • NoOne says:

      If vaccination works as they suggested, how come an unvaccinated child would pose a danger to the vaccinated children. Actually its other way round. Only vaccinated kids would shed the virus after vaccination spreading the disease. Public school belongs to anyone who is public. It’s inhumane and unethical to disallow a group of children to the public school due to their vaccination status.

    • Thinking Woman says:

      Considerate mom, I don’t mean to be rude, but, hello, is anyone home? The article written above is addressing that premise exactly. And the conclusions she has arrived at is that unvaccinated children DO NOT pose any risk to public health. I’m sitting here scratching my head at your comment

      • Nick A. Danger says:

        Thinking Woman, please stop scratching your head while trying to discover Considerate Mom’s logic, or you will wear a hole in your skull. But, if you MUST continue to scratch that pesky itch, try using pencil eraser instead…it will damage your brain while you try to decipher CM’s inability to use her own…maybe she had scabies as a baby! The truth is usually stranger than any fiction one can make up…

    • dan redford says:

      I had the measles, mumps, and chickenpox, and was vaccinated , I wasn’t allowed to go to school even though I was vaccinated my mom treated measles with Vitamin A , the mumps I had to lay in bed for a week , and chicken pox stayed home for 2 weeks.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        No one’s talking about going to school WITH the measles, mumps or chickenpox. This has nothing to do with sick kids staying home. Of course, sick kids should stay home. The laws currently being considered would bar HEALTHY unvaccinated children WITHOUT measles, mumps or chickenpox from schools.

    • Terri says:

      Not very considerate, Considerate Mom, and you seem to have not only NOT read the article, but none of the thread either. My unvaccinated child has as much right to a publicly funded education as your vaccinated child – because as the article points out quite clearly, my unvaccinated child poses no risk to yours whatsoever.

  58. maureen says:

    Thanks Tetyana and all others. I was vaccinated for whooping cough before I was four. At the age of four I contracted the virus and was ill for six months. This then lead to a chest weakness and an inability to fight off chest infections. I feel we should let body create its own defence and make it strong as now we see a lot of escapism rather than real cures.

    Maureen

  59. Rachael Rea says:

    I am concerned about the fact that you don’t know the difference between Hep B and Hep C. I found that extremely alarming and irresponsible. Hep B is not a Blood Borne virus and is very contagious in the community. Especially at risk are people responsible for toileting/changing nappies/diapers of children who have Hep B. Also at risk are people who eat food prepared by those who have Hep B. Hep C is the Blood Born virus and children with Hep C pose no risk to others as long as they are in a blood aware setting. The rest of the article was really interesting, but I would need some 3rd party verification that the rest of the info was accurate.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      Hepatitis B IS blood borne. Like AIDS, (according to the CDC) the only other main pathway of transmission is through sexual contact. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5251a3.htm Other modes of transmission HAVE occurred, but are very rare. Also, according to CDC statistics, less than 2 in 100,000 children aged 0-4 became infected with hepatitis B in the year BEFORE the vaccine was licensed. I think you will have to agree that the possibility that a teacher or daycare provider is going to be changing the diapers of a child with hepatitis B is extremely remote. Even more remote is the possibility that the virus would be transmitted to that caregiver, and even more remote is the possibility that that caregiver would transmit it to someone else.

    • Meg says:

      Um, Hep B is a blood borne/body fluid virus.

    • Bella Watson says:

      How is hepatitis B spread?

      Hepatitis B is a blood-borne virus, which can be sexually transmitted.

      In people with hepatitis B, the virus can be found in the blood (or serum) and to a lesser degree in their body fluids such as semen or vaginal secretions.

      Hepatitis B can be spread following exposure of non-intact skin (open cuts) or mucous membranes (such as the genital tract) to infected blood or, less efficiently, after exposure to infected body fluids.

      Blood
      The hepatitis B virus is present in the blood of an infected person. If infected blood enters another person’s blood stream, that person may become infected.

      The disease can be spread by:

      Sharing equipment used for injecting drugs.
      Piercing the skin with equipment which is not properly cleaned and sterilised.
      Sharing razor blades or toothbrushes.
      One person’s blood coming into contact with open cuts on another person.
      People who receive blood transfusions in Australia have a very low risk of getting hepatitis B. The Australian Red Cross Blood Service currently estimates this risk as approximately 1 in 739,000 (see transfusion.com.au for further information). http://ideas.health.vic.gov.au/diseases/hepatitis-b.asp

      • Nicole Clarke says:

        I checked with my daycare, my 2 year old has fun at daycare but they don’t have sex, take drugs, share razorbladesor engage in any other risky behavior.

    • Reimar C. Bruening Ph.D. says:

      I have been on this blog for only two days, left a critical comment and since have my mailbox full of seemingly endless pseudoscientific rants and plain hysteria: if the lacking of distinction between Hep B and C (and you are absolutely correct of course, Rachael) is the only thing you are worried about, you must have the intellectual skin of an elephant. Good for you, but for me it’s time to leave this blog and never return, knowing that there are people out there who thrive on delusions, half-baked knowledge and not even the faintest ability to calculate and weigh risk, and yet who have the power to influence timid and probably clueless legislators to the detriment of the sane – still – majority in this land.
      One last thing though: if you want an explanation for the increasing frequency of childhood autism and other genetically determined childhood afflictions, look at two very simple facts: first, autism is now being recognized as a real health issue on its own. This is a comparatively recent development in the history of this affliction; hence the reports describing it after proper diagnosis are ever increasing giving an impression of increasing occurrence, while actual frequency of incidents has probably changed much less. And second, the increase we DO still witness should be seen in the epidemiological context of ever increasing age of conception among parents in so-called developed countries: when looking at the minimal risk for genetic aberrations of offspring caused by mutations in the female and – much more important – male germ line, the optimal childbearing age for women is 18 to 25 and for men 20 – 25 to inseminate with minimum risk, roughly speaking. In our society well-to-do parents after having secured their careers begin to thing about procreation being well into their 30s and beyond, while men by then have accumulated an exponentially increasing number of mutations in their sperm. In other words, having kids later in life increases their risk of genetically determined disorders, including autism. Not that this should prevent them from having a family: the risk is comparatively small and can be managed. BUT it is much much higher (and therefore much more plausible) than coming from a minute amount of preservatives and other ingredients in a once-a year vaccine cocktail. If one wants to look for a real cause-and-effect analysis, these are good starting points, while leaving the – admittedly not 100% – effectiveness of vaccines to protect the vast majority of our population quite successfully.
      While I fully understand the rage and despair of parents whose child fell ill, you should still not endanger millions of other babies by trying to scare their parents away from what has been a blessing of evolution-like proportions to humanity as a whole.
      I myself contracted Measles when 16 years old, having not been vaccinated immediately after the war in bombed-out Germany: let me tell you, this was no fun. I still remember the maddening pain and itching all over my body, while my fever was skyrocketing. Even worse, I got Mumps at the age of 20: I lost a whole semester because of it. My neck was swollen like a of a walrus, the pain behind my ears was unbearable, and worse, I was not allowed to have sex for 6 months for fear of getting orchitis, a common sequela, which would have rendered me infertile. If this would have happened today from having been inadvertently exposed to an infected child, I would sue its parents for assault, if it turned out that they neglected to immunize their child . And I guarantee you, not only would I win the case, but it would very quickly bring this ant-vaccine craze to an end. But then we have also people who claim a gun in the house increases their security and freedom. Some people might just be beyond repair, I am afraid ……
      Enuf said: good bye!

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        Reimar,

        If what you say is true, that means that people from this site have been exceptionally resourceful in finding your email address as we obviously did not publish it.

        And if what you say is true, I respectfully suggest you try to UNDERSTAND the response you received. Consider the fact that you have come to this website to ostensibly call out what you considered “irresponsible misinformation,” and then you made it clear with your own comment that either you don’t know what you are talking about or you are not beyond some very “irresponsible misinformation” of your own by implying that 1 out of 10 of their children would die if they got the measles, when the reality is closer to 1 out of 8,000. Now consider the fact that many of the people who read our blog have children that have not only BEEN vaccinated with the MMR, they have also been HARMED by it (and/or other vaccines; admittedly, it can be very hard to tell WHICH vaccine actually caused the damage as they are given in combination), many of them severely and/or permanently. Don’t you think if YOU were the parent of a healthy child who developed encephalopathy as a result of an MMR vaccine and was subsequently diagnosed with a significantly debilitating and/or limiting condition as a result that you might be SLIGHTLY peeved by your comment?

        And perhaps they would be peeved even further by THIS comment that makes it clear that, as someone involved in the pharmaceutical industry involved in “drug discovery” (I found you on LinkedIn), you do not understand autism, its genesis or its rise. This is only one of the latest studies to make it clear that the risk of autism is not only not due to genetics alone, at best genetics can account for only about half of it: http://sfari.org/news-and-opinion/news/2014/environment-genetics-may-contribute-equally-to-autism-risk. The rest is due to environmental factors. In addition, the rise can only partially be explained by the factors you discuss. The relative risks arrived at for older vs. younger parents were 1.52 and 1.57 for mothers and fathers, respectively. Contrast that with the relative risk of 2.0 that was recently found for circumcision, a completely environmental factor that has been around for a LONG time. And then consider the relative risk of 7.6-11.3 that was originally reported by Thomas Verstraeten for the children who had received the most Thimerosal in the first month of life vs. the children with no exposure to Thimerosal in the first month of life, and the relative risk of 3.5 for African-American boys who had had the MMR on time vs. those who had it after the age of five that was found by the CDC itself and recently disclosed by William Thompson, PhD of the CDC. If you REALLY take in these facts, you may understand why your report of having spent an uncomfortable week with measles at 16 (already well past the age when most people got it in the pre-vaccine era) or six months without sex because of mumps at 20 (again, well past the age most people got it) will have little likelihood of convincing our readers that you didn’t get a MUCH better deal than they did.

        By the way, you might also want to take in the fact that almost all of the young adults who have gotten the measles in recent college outbreaks and in the NFL have not only been vaccinated for mumps, they were also vaccinated RECENTLY. Merck is currently being sued by two of its OWN virologists for essentially making up mumps vaccine efficacy data. I think you highly overestimate your chances of winning that lawsuit.

        Despite the fact that you say that you “fully understand the rage and despair of parents whose child fell ill,” it seems very unlikely indeed that you understand it at all, much less fully.

      • Kiwi Mumma says:

        If you want people to read what you write try and put it into paragraphs please.

        I have also had Measles and yet here we both are alive and talking

    • Hazbra says:

      Rachel – I think – when you say Hepatitis B – you probably mean Hepatitis A

  60. Rae L says:

    I want to know how I have been deceived. Thanks

  61. Ryan,M says:

    The problem I feel is the relationship between companies producing the vaccines and policy makers getting incentives / pay-offs / investments in their political campaigns (which eventually need to be ‘paid back’). How are they paid back?… With policy changes which help the vaccine producers (in Australia they have a campaign called ‘No Jab No Play’ which is a prime example of this).

  62. We must have freedom to make an educated decision on the subject of vaccination. No man or government is so great that he can make a personal decision for me without my consent.

  63. The author makes a good case that forced vaccination will not improve public health. But even if it did, it would be wrong to force vaccinations. I cite the Nuremberg Code and the post-WWII development of medical ethics. Any doctor or nurse who sticks a needle into an unwilling person is committing a trespass and assault… and violating the fundamental human right to Informed Consent. The politicians that enable the violation of conscientious objectors are engaging in a crime against humanity, as defined in international law. More here: http://drrimatruthreports.com/forced-vaccination-is-a-crime-against-humanity/

  64. Joan says:

    I want to know how I’ve been deceived!

  65. Boris M Garsky says:

    How does the CDC know that a non-vaccinated individual was responsible for the spread of the virus? Did they culture everyone before they entered the park. Was the number 1,2,3 individuals or more that caused the spread. Even though vaccinated, an individual can spread a virus or bacterium to someone else; it’s called the carrier state. One does not exhibit signs and symptoms, but physically carry the virus/ bacterium. It can take days for an individual to mount an effective response to infection during which time he/ she can contaminate another. Adverse reactions are not rare and can be minor or resulting in death. Vaccines have been known to be contaminated causing manifestation of the target disease to death. Now, how do they know that it was a non-vaccinated individual that caused the epidemic? If two individuals converse and one has been vaccinated and the other had not, we would expect that the vaccinated individual would have nothing to fear from the non-vaccinated individual. But, that is untrue and that is why the CDC wants everyone mandated to take the vaccine, and, Oh yes- there is plenty of profit to be made.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      They absolutely do NOT know. They have said that they don’t know who was patient zero or the index case for the Disneyland measles outbreak. Because of the strain they isolated, they assumed it was someone who had been traveling in Europe, but there is no way to know whether that individual had been previously vaccinated or not. In addition, since the people who came down with measles had visited over a few days, the contagious person probably had very mild symptoms. Many officials claim that vaccination results in a milder form of disease. I have found nothing that verifies this, but if it were true it could be a problem in a situation such as this if a vaccinated person were an unwitting carrier of an illness and, therefore, was able to transmit it to a significant number of others.

    • Lisa says:

      Read the wording under the map. By the CDc’s own admission the Disneyland outbreak likely started with a traveler. http://www.cdc.gov/measles/multi-state-outbreak.html

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        Yes, but that says nothing about the traveler’s vaccination status.

      • Lisa says:

        I’ll have to look for the info I saw regarding vax/nonvax status of people in the outbreak. There was a large (26% or so) that was unknown. And the strain is the same as the one in the Philippines last year. I guess my implied point was that the Disneyland measles outbreak is being used to pass legislation removing the PBE for school children, when the outbreak itself had nothing to do with an unvaccinated child in a school.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        I had thought that the strain was the one in the Philippines, then I read something that said most of the cases were from a D strain that is currently circulating in Germany. But this link from the CDC does claim that 40% of the Disneyland cases were a B strain that WAS circulating in the Philippines. According to that link, 38% had “unknown” vaccination coverage. As most parents know if their children had measles vaccines and most adults were vaccinated, I suspect the “unknown” mostly covers adults who do not know when their most recent shot was.

        Yes, they are aware that virtually all outbreaks in the United States begin with a traveler, but their claim is that “the unvaccinated make the population more vulnerable to outbreaks.” As Tetyana is showing with the section on the “measles paradox” above, that claim is invalid because of the nature of measles vaccine “protection.” Even if we have virtually universal vaccination (and re-vaccination), we will continue to have (and be vulnerable to) outbreaks due to travelers because a certain percentage of the population will never obtain immunity and older people will have unknown immunity due to waning of the temporary protection afforded by the vaccine.

      • Lisa says:

        Thank you Professor TMR 🙂

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        You’re welcome, Lisa. 🙂

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  67. Jen says:

    Thank you! I hope our legislators actually read the info and let it sink in. It’s absurd to think they can take away rights with this logic.

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  69. Tracey says:

    Thank you Tetyana

  70. vforba says:

    OPV is still used in the US. I have had moms tell me as much when they have had their kids vaccinated and this was as recent as this year 2015.

  71. Brian says:

    I have read Tetyana’s work elsewhere. It is refreshing to hear from an expert in this area. The differing individual response to vaccinations is a recent discovery, and explains the outbreaks of various diseases in vaccinated populations. Other recent research is showing that it is the adjuvents that cause much of the adverse response in some individuals. The aluminium in particular is a toxin and is accumulative, so as the vaccination schedule has grown in number and frequency of vaccinations there is an increase in neurologic reactions. The theory of vaccination is elegant, but is yet to be proven effective in a double blind trial.

  72. GrammaConcept says:

    I want to know how I have been deceived…. Thank you.

  73. Diane Hannell says:

    i want to know how I have been deceived

  74. Kendra Delrio says:

    I know this is an open letter to our senators but please tell me you also formally sent them this letter too. This was so well written, I would hate to think your research and wisdom would possibly be over looked because it just didn’t get to them.

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  76. JD says:

    So, several vaccines don’t permit transmission, but they do prevent symptoms? Great! You should probably vaccinate your kids, then. It seems ignorant to let your kid to go to school and get hospitalized from something that their vaccinated classmates carry, but are immune to.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      “Seems ignorant” — that would be a very telling phrase. “Seems,” indeed. Many people come here thinking they’ll school those “ignorant,” “superstitious,” “unscientific” people, and then find that we know far more about the subject than they do and understand the science far better.

      • Funny, if you actually read the article instead of cherry-picking it, it makes a good case for being pro-vaccine. The only anti-vaccine message it might carry is, “Well, it might not be 100%, so what’s the point?”

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        It is not intended to be “anti-vaccine.” It is intended to address the belief that children who are not vaccinated pose a threat to others in a public school setting. There is a great deal of legislation underway in the country intended to force parents who do not wish to have their children vaccinated due to their children’s immune system status, their research on the risks vs. benefits of vaccines, and/or their religious convictions. Tetyana’s work makes it clear that there is absolutely no need for this legislation, even from a “pro-vaccine” viewpoint.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        By the way, I love the idea that you think I “cherry picked” the article based upon my previous comment (which didn’t actually include anything specific from the article at all), rather than reading it. Not only did I read it, I edited it. 😀

    • julie says:

      you have made some huge incorrect as assumptions here. Firstly the vaccinated kids are not immune by any means, secondly why would the unvaccinated child end up in hospital. I grew up in times pre vaccine. Not one classmate ended up in hospital, the diseases were mild. I am glad I got them – great for my immune system. I did lose two classmates to the vaccines when they came out though

  77. Mario A Leblanc says:

    M.I.T RESEARCHER – DR STEPHANIE SENEFF 1:59 min
    http://youtu.be/K5BF0x354BI

    M.I.T. researcher, Dr. Stephanie Seneff. 8:18
    ¨This is the Best Explanation of the Vaccine/Autism Connection I’ve Ever Heard!¨
    http://youtu.be/o3P6wVUH0pc

  78. Mario A Leblanc says:

    Measles Matters: News You Can Use
    Dear Parent,
    As a board certified pediatrician, I took the same oath as all physicians, “to do no harm.”
    The latest media presentation of the measles outbreak at Disneyland as a result of unvaccinated children is very upsetting to me. We are being fed information that is essentially inaccurate by media journalists – none of whom have medical degrees – which may actually be promoting medical harm to our children.
    The latest reports blaming a failure of the measles vaccine on the unvaccinated population are not accurate, and in some reports, not true at all. In fact, over the past 30 years, there have been similar numbers of measles cases reported in various areas of the United States. Studies published in leading medical journals, such as the New England Journal of Medicine, American Journal of Epidemiology, American Journal of Public Health and others around the world have confirmed small numbers, 75-140 cases of measles annually. So why then is the latest statistic of over 90 cases of measles spread over 14 states, representing tens of millions of people being billed as an epidemic?
    The media would have us believe that this is a result of the fringe population of anti-vaxers who refuse to have their children vaccinated according the guidelines of the current vaccine schedule. Medical reporting has brought to light the glaring ineffectiveness of the measles vaccines in fulfilling their widely claimed promise of preventing outbreaks in highly vaccine compliant populations. In fact, measles outbreaks have occurred in populations that have been vaccinated on the average of 77%- 99%, not the so-called anti-vaxers.
    Last year 1 in every 500,000 Americans came down with the measles. Nearly all recovered in a few days without serious consequences. At the same time 1 in 68 American children were diagnosed with autism or for every case of measles there were 7000 cases of autism. I ask myself which is the real epidemic here?
    Frank Bruni in an editorial in the New York Times on February 1, 2015 states that this measles outbreak is a result of “wealthy, educated people who deliberately didn’t vaccinate their children.” He refers to measles as “the scourge once essentially eliminated in this country is back” when, in fact, it never left! He refers to all links between autism and MMR vaccines as having been discredited yet he obviously has not read all the studies from the U.S. and around the world proving his information false. As a recent example, I would ask him to justify the 340% increase in autism in African-American boys in Chicago – a report that was supposedly squelched by the CDC . While he reports that the incidence of measles has increased over the past 10 years, no patients have died.
    Scare tactics were used to terrorize those who attended this year’s SuperBowl in Phoenix because of one woman who sat in a clinic without being properly isolated or that every one of the thousands of people passing through Penn Station are at risk because of one man who rode an Amtrak train. It appears that the saturation of the media amplifies the hypotheses to a point that seems misleadingly worthy of consideration. In other words, if enough people say things enough times there must be some truth to it. Does that justify USA Today publishing an article claiming that non-vaccinated parents should be jailed or sued or have their children removed from the home if they chose not to vaccinate their children against the measles? Does that justify the immediate vaccination of every child and adult in this country regardless of their immune status or overall medical health? Will the local pharmacies be hooking pedestrians into their stores for MMR vaccines as they have been doing for the less than effective flu vaccines?
    As I write this piece, the director of the CDC states that the overall vaccination rate in this country is 92% !! Yet he is very concerned of a large outbreak because of the trend in not vaccinating certain children. Does this make sense?
    I wish these journalists, vaccinologists and infectious disease specialists spent a week in my office. I wish they would actually listen to the testimonials given to me by parents of autistic children who were obviously affected by these vaccines adversely. I wish they would tell parents that the risk of dying from the measles in the United States is around zero. I wish they would admit that they are being told by pharmaceutical companies not to report certain statistics or to cover up factual scientific information. I wish they could be free to report honestly about vaccines rather than being dependent upon drug advertising and internet information.
    This is an emotional debate for sure. If we discount emotion and fear, we would realize that a child may have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning, accidental drowning or possibly from adverse side effects of the MMR vaccination itself than from acquiring live measles infection. I wish that my pediatric colleagues would offer parents factual pros and cons of vaccines in general so that a parent can make an informed decision and then give consent to vaccinate rather than being told that if their child isn’t vaccinated they will be thrown out of school and they are guilty of child abuse!
    I am not advocating that vaccines be discontinued. I am advocating that doctors and patients become aware of the ingredients of these vaccines, what they can potentially do to affect an adverse outcome in an immunologically compromised child. Adverse reactions to MMR and other vaccines have been reported in numerous clinical trials and studies. I am advocating that medical practitioners and researchers, not journalists, address the real medical epidemics of autism, asthma, GI disease and autoimmune diseases facing our society and people around the world. Stop hyping the safety of MMR vaccines which may actually be more dangerous than live measles and may be ineffective in preventing the illness which they are so anxious to report as a dangerous epidemic itself.
    Let’s stop believing that the mainstream media is telling us the truth when all they are doing is shutting down any intelligent and open discussion about vaccine safety and how to improve it.
    Sincerely,
    Dr. Michael Elice, M.D.
    AIM Integrative Medicine
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    • Jill Rutherford says:

      Thank you for addressing the vaccination issue. You show compassion for our kids and the rest of us. I don’t understand why people continue to act like sheep when the facts are out there for all to see. If vaccines are so safe, why is there a Vaccine Court? Why do the manufacturers and health care personnel have immunity if you or your child have adverse reactions? Why do you have to go up against our government if you or your child has an adverse reaction? I am amazed that even people that question everything believe all the claims of “herd immunity”. Don’t believe me. Dig into CDC, FDA and the Vaccine Court. It is shocking.

  79. Nelda McEwen says:

    Finally. a clear breakdown on an issue that has too much hype and not enough information, from both of the heated sides of this debate. Thanks so much for posting a really seriously informative article.

  80. Robert Logan says:

    I want to know how I’ve been deceived. Thank you

  81. Julia Ivanova says:

    Tetyana,
    thank you so much for your tremendous work and for your position.

  82. Reimar C Bruening Ph.D. says:

    What a profound disservice to public health by someone who should know better! But statistical interpretation and understanding of the laws of probability unfortunately is not part of the educational curriculum, even among Ph.D.s. Case in point: Dr. Obukhanych cites the number of adverse reactions among children after measles vaccination. If you do the math, the probability is about 0.6% that your child will have an adverse effect. That is similar to the rate of death by traffic accident for children aged 1 -10 (0.8%). While the negative sequelae from measles vaccination almost never have a deadly outcome, death by traffic accident is – well – deadly. So, if you Concerned Moms are really serious about protecting your little ones, you should keep them locked up until their 10th birthday, measles or not. Now the real bummer: the probability of a fatal outcome of childhood measles infection is a whopping 10%!!! To check, see the WHO website. it states:
    >>>Key facts

    Measles is one of the leading causes of death among young children even though a safe and cost-effective vaccine is available.
    In 2013, there were 145 700 measles deaths globally – about 400 deaths every day or 16 deaths every hour.
    Measles vaccination resulted in a 75% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2013 worldwide.
    In 2013, about 84% of the world’s children received one dose of measles vaccine by their first birthday through routine health services – up from 73% in 2000.
    During 2000-2013, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 15.6 million deaths making measles vaccine one of the best buys in public health.
    >>>
    So, dear mom’s, instead of putting your irrational believe systems above your child’s safety and looking for support of your arguments by cherry-picking an alarmist article that avoids putting the data in a probability context: have your kids vaccinated, for whatever-god-you-believe-in’s sake!!!
    In light of the evidence of the worldwide success of mass vaccinations, correct legislation would read: “parents who elect not to vaccinate their children for whatever reason will automatically face 2nd degree manslaughter charges in case their child dies from an otherwise preventable disease”. Don’t let it out on the innocent children by discriminating against them; they are not to blame for their egotistic, half-informed and irresponsible parents. Instead, hit those who think of their children as their property and instruments in their ideological war games.

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      Speaking of “knowing better” and “cherry picking”! “The probability of a fatal outcome of childhood measles infection is a whopping 10%!!!”

      I’m sorry, Dr. Bruening, but you should know DAMNED well, that quoting a rate from third world countries is an utterly ridiculous argument for scaring people in industrialized nations. How about quoting statistics from the United States? In the PRE-VACCINE era, the CDC states there were approximately 3-4,000,000 cases of measles with approximately 450 deaths per year. I can find no breakdown of the number of deaths by age, but measles has always been acknowledged to be MORE dangerous in adults than in children, so it is unlikely that all 450 of those would have been “childhood measles.” That corresponds to a death rate of about 1 in 8,000 or a 0.0125 chance of death IF your child gets the measles, which is highly unlikely, far lower than the 0.6% probability of an immediate negative reaction bad enough to send your child to the hospital (and by the way, not all serious adverse events are noticeable in the short term). Sorry, but you’re going to have to work a lot harder to scare people around here.

      • cia parker says:

        This is a link to an article by vaccine researcher Dr. Alexander Langmuir, with charts at the end showing the death rate from measles of different age groups. In children between three and ten, it was less than one death in 10,000 cases, in those under one year, in whom it was rare because 99% of their mothers had had measles and protected them with placental immunity and breast feeding, it was as many as four deaths in 10,000 cases.
        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1522578/pdf/amjphnation00499-0004.pdf

      • Flo says:

        I’m beginning to wonder if Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch.com is on here. Are you familiar with him? I figured out who he was when whenever I was searching for some so-called alternative solution medically, there he was discounting it. After several times I almost decided that if he didn’t like it, it meant I should check it out more closely.

      • IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

        To help out Professor, the following commentary has a chart which does break down mortality rates by age in the years 1987-2000 for measles.

        http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/189/Supplement_1/S4.long

        About 54% children age 20. Very few cases in children who are school aged.

        Appreciate the work to raise the dialogue and dispel misinformation.

      • IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

        What I typed and did not come through in my initial response (due to greater than and less than signs being misinterpreted as HTML tags) was 54% are in children younger than 5 and 30% in adults older than 20.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        HTML makes me crazy. Thanks for commenting. Vaccination has definitely changed the susceptible group significantly.

    • Mario A Leblanc says:

      Key Facts from WHO :
      ¨Severe measles is more likely among poorly nourished young children, especially those with insufficient vitamin A, or whose immune systems have been weakened by HIV/AIDS or other diseases.¨…¨ The overwhelming majority (more than 95%) of measles deaths occur in countries with low per capita incomes and weak health infrastructures.¨
      These are the real reasons and not vaccines. Vaccines are poison. They are a warfare tools to kill people. Google Agenda 21 for Mass Depopulation. Wake up!
      Show me Reimar C Bruening one study that proove that vaccines are efficient. They are none!

    • Mario A Leblanc says:

      Measles Matters: News You Can Use
      Dear Parent,
      As a board certified pediatrician, I took the same oath as all physicians, “to do no harm.”
      The latest media presentation of the measles outbreak at Disneyland as a result of unvaccinated children is very upsetting to me. We are being fed information that is essentially inaccurate by media journalists – none of whom have medical degrees – which may actually be promoting medical harm to our children.
      The latest reports blaming a failure of the measles vaccine on the unvaccinated population are not accurate, and in some reports, not true at all. In fact, over the past 30 years, there have been similar numbers of measles cases reported in various areas of the United States. Studies published in leading medical journals, such as the New England Journal of Medicine, American Journal of Epidemiology, American Journal of Public Health and others around the world have confirmed small numbers, 75-140 cases of measles annually. So why then is the latest statistic of over 90 cases of measles spread over 14 states, representing tens of millions of people being billed as an epidemic?
      The media would have us believe that this is a result of the fringe population of anti-vaxers who refuse to have their children vaccinated according the guidelines of the current vaccine schedule. Medical reporting has brought to light the glaring ineffectiveness of the measles vaccines in fulfilling their widely claimed promise of preventing outbreaks in highly vaccine compliant populations. In fact, measles outbreaks have occurred in populations that have been vaccinated on the average of 77%- 99%, not the so-called anti-vaxers.
      Last year 1 in every 500,000 Americans came down with the measles. Nearly all recovered in a few days without serious consequences. At the same time 1 in 68 American children were diagnosed with autism or for every case of measles there were 7000 cases of autism. I ask myself which is the real epidemic here?
      Frank Bruni in an editorial in the New York Times on February 1, 2015 states that this measles outbreak is a result of “wealthy, educated people who deliberately didn’t vaccinate their children.” He refers to measles as “the scourge once essentially eliminated in this country is back” when, in fact, it never left! He refers to all links between autism and MMR vaccines as having been discredited yet he obviously has not read all the studies from the U.S. and around the world proving his information false. As a recent example, I would ask him to justify the 340% increase in autism in African-American boys in Chicago – a report that was supposedly squelched by the CDC . While he reports that the incidence of measles has increased over the past 10 years, no patients have died.
      Scare tactics were used to terrorize those who attended this year’s SuperBowl in Phoenix because of one woman who sat in a clinic without being properly isolated or that every one of the thousands of people passing through Penn Station are at risk because of one man who rode an Amtrak train. It appears that the saturation of the media amplifies the hypotheses to a point that seems misleadingly worthy of consideration. In other words, if enough people say things enough times there must be some truth to it. Does that justify USA Today publishing an article claiming that non-vaccinated parents should be jailed or sued or have their children removed from the home if they chose not to vaccinate their children against the measles? Does that justify the immediate vaccination of every child and adult in this country regardless of their immune status or overall medical health? Will the local pharmacies be hooking pedestrians into their stores for MMR vaccines as they have been doing for the less than effective flu vaccines?
      As I write this piece, the director of the CDC states that the overall vaccination rate in this country is 92% !! Yet he is very concerned of a large outbreak because of the trend in not vaccinating certain children. Does this make sense?
      I wish these journalists, vaccinologists and infectious disease specialists spent a week in my office. I wish they would actually listen to the testimonials given to me by parents of autistic children who were obviously affected by these vaccines adversely. I wish they would tell parents that the risk of dying from the measles in the United States is around zero. I wish they would admit that they are being told by pharmaceutical companies not to report certain statistics or to cover up factual scientific information. I wish they could be free to report honestly about vaccines rather than being dependent upon drug advertising and internet information.
      This is an emotional debate for sure. If we discount emotion and fear, we would realize that a child may have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning, accidental drowning or possibly from adverse side effects of the MMR vaccination itself than from acquiring live measles infection. I wish that my pediatric colleagues would offer parents factual pros and cons of vaccines in general so that a parent can make an informed decision and then give consent to vaccinate rather than being told that if their child isn’t vaccinated they will be thrown out of school and they are guilty of child abuse!
      I am not advocating that vaccines be discontinued. I am advocating that doctors and patients become aware of the ingredients of these vaccines, what they can potentially do to affect an adverse outcome in an immunologically compromised child. Adverse reactions to MMR and other vaccines have been reported in numerous clinical trials and studies. I am advocating that medical practitioners and researchers, not journalists, address the real medical epidemics of autism, asthma, GI disease and autoimmune diseases facing our society and people around the world. Stop hyping the safety of MMR vaccines which may actually be more dangerous than live measles and may be ineffective in preventing the illness which they are so anxious to report as a dangerous epidemic itself.
      Let’s stop believing that the mainstream media is telling us the truth when all they are doing is shutting down any intelligent and open discussion about vaccine safety and how to improve it.
      Sincerely,
      Dr. Michael Elice, M.D.
      AIM Integrative Medicine
      http://www.aimintegrativemedicine.com
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      Dr. Michael Elice presents a new, state-of-the-art comprehensive facility dedicated to the children and adults with AUTISM, ALLERGY, IMMUNE AND METABOLIC (AIM) PROBLEMS.
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      clinical imbalances that may be the source of various disease conditions including:
      Immune dysfunction and deficiencies
      Inflammation
      Digestive, absorptive and microbial imbalances
      Oxidative stress and mitochondrial disorder
      Hormonal and neurotransmitter imbalances
      Toxicity
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    • Cary says:

      I agree with Professor TMR … your use of third world statistics is a typical fear mongering aguement …

      You’re a Professor, an educator , not politician for the Pharmaceutical industry !!

      One must ask the question why Vaccine research is not for public viewing ??

      Why was this research manipulated by the omission of stats on several cultural/racial groups to create more favourable outcomes for the Pro-vaccine movement???

    • EDUARDO says:

      What a terribly argument to put your trust in. you could also say: “Vaccine makers and doctors who vaccinate children for whatever reason will automatically face 2nd degree manslaughter charges in case their child dies from an otherwise preventable aggression” and the statistics would be much, much higher, no doubt. What a pity of a “doctor”.

    • Judy Netel says:

      I would like to inform anyone who really does care about their children that I was fully vaccinated as a child. Reading from my “Maternal & Child Welfare Service” booklet after receiving my first injection at 3 months I started getting convulsions. These fits were constant and +40% c temperatures. At 5 months of age after my second injection I lost half my body weight. Was 10 Lbs at 4 months and then 5 Lbs at 5 months. I have the record here ~ dated & signed by my doctor. When I was 6 years old I got the chickenpox and was severely ill. 8 years old I got the measles and almost died. I can remember being very sick most of the time and from around 10 years I started getting migraines and I still do 46 years later.
      My daughter has NOT been vaccinated and from birth to her 15th birthday yesterday has not ONCE had a cold/flu/or any illness of any description. Needless to say she has not EVER visited the doctor due to illness! I am very happy to show proof of all of this information should you wish to verify it.

    • Kim Mason says:

      YES!

    • Julia Ivanova says:

      “If you do the math, the probability is about 0.6% that your child will have an adverse effect.”

      I don’t know what kind of “PhD” you are, but you seem to not able to understand the simple point of Tetyana’s letter.

      I’ll chew up it for you.

      Dr. Obukhanych is not arguing about probabilities of getting an adverse reaction. He states that some currently produced vaccines are merely useless (which we could also see in recent outbreaks), and reminds that vaccines possess SOME danger.
      Her point is: even with the small number if injured, RISK DOES NOT WORTH THE BENEFIT. Because there are almost no benefit.

      Wash your brains of farmaganda and start to use them.

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        Dr. Obukhanych makes no assessment of the overall risk vs. benefit of any of the vaccines in this piece. She is merely pointing out that the risks of vaccinating are not inconsiderable, and that the risks of NOT vaccinating with these particular vaccines do not include “putting the general population in danger.”

  83. Tammy says:

    If the doctor is female, why is there a photo of a man at the beginning of this story?

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      If you READ the captions under the photos, you will see that the first photo is California State Senator Pan, sponsor of California’s bill to eliminate vaccine exemptions. The article has been shared with various pictures attached, two of them are pictures of State Senators who are sponsoring legislation attempting to limit vaccine exemptions.

      If you share it now, it should bring up Tetyana’s picture. I’m sorry for any confusion and hope that eliminates it in future.

  84. Rae Yaksich says:

    I want to know how I’ve been deceived

  85. Ann Arceneaux says:

    Could you post a link to an easily printable pdf for this open letter?

  86. Beverly Stone says:

    We need more scientists like you! Thank you.

  87. Jock Doubleday says:

    Since science has never shown that vaccines prevent disease, why would anyone subject themselves to the risks of the (numerous documented) poisons in vaccines?

    Here’s my eBook (.pdf) documenting the historical fraud of vaccination — normally $2 by PayPal — free to anyone on this thread. Just write “I want to know how I’ve been deceived” when you hit “reply” below.

    “Into the Labyrinth: Discovering the Truth about Vaccination”
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=405830396138935&set=a.405830369472271.107164.100001359335487&type=1&permPage=1

    • ProfessorTMR says:

      Jock, the “measles paradox” that Tetyana mentions above, which we are seeing in evidence, makes it clear that the measles vaccine DOES “prevent disease,” at least acute measles infections. People need to stop denying that if they want to be taken seriously. And the questions we need to be asking are what are the COSTS of that “disease prevention.” In this case one of the costs is an adult population with varying unknown risk profiles and an infant population that is almost universally at risk past the age of a few months. In addition, what are the costs of vaccinating for every little thing to the immune system?

    • Mel says:

      “I want to know how I’ve been deceived”

    • Larry Todd says:

      With the rapidly developing witch-hunt psychology so visible among the pro-vaccination cohort causing intense argument and even threatening dialog in the social media, its a good thing for those of us who may be “witches” to have at their disposal some results of actual science, rather han merely personal expressions of distrust of medical products.

    • Staci Gomez says:

      I want to know how I’ve been deceived. Thanks! 🙂

    • Sheila says:

      I want to know how I’ve been deceived.

    • Lisa Lasker says:

      I want to know how we’ve been deceived.

    • roxi says:

      I’d like to know how I’ve been deceived…. TIA!

    • Jeni says:

      I want to know how I’ve been deceived.

    • EDUARDO says:

      I want to know how I’ve been deceived.

    • Lori Hayden says:

      “I just want to know how I’ve been deceived”

    • Ernst Brinkmann says:

      I want to know how I’ve been deceived

    • Rachel Crivelli says:

      I want to know how I’ve been deceived.

  88. Andrew Jensson says:

    I appreciate all the efforts Tetyana has made to present this data. I also appreciate all the comments with helpful anecdotes and useful studies to boot! Thank you all.

    • mark says:

      Yes thanks, is anyone aware of epidemiological studies, vacc vs non-vacc either underway or published?

      • ProfessorTMR says:

        There is very little in the way of a real scientific attempt to compare outcomes. There is an oft-quoted German study, but it’s a survey that anyone can fill out. As “science” goes, it leaves a lot to be desired, but at least they’re trying. There was a Generation Rescue one a few years back that wasn’t very extensive, but was very provocative. Shockingly enough, the CDC is steering as clear as they can from actually completing such a study. Representative Bill Posey of Florida submitted a bill that would compel the CDC to do the one study that actually makes sense, but it has very little support other than Carolyn Maloney of New York.

  89. Bonnie Owens says:

    Thank you for your dedicated research, Dr. Obukhanych! I am part of the SB 277 opposition in California. May submit your letter in doc form to the senators on the Education Committee?

  90. Sarah says:

    Brilliant. Brilliantly said, brilliantly researched. We need this information to become more mainstream! It should be read clearly in detail with every single doctor visit that involves any vaccine. THIS is the kind of information needed in informed consent!

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  92. Noelle Foster says:

    Thank you Dr. Obukhanych for presenting the actual science rather than propaganda!

  93. joe imbriano says:

    THE PRINCIPLE THAT SUSTAINS MANDATORY VACCINATION IS BROAD ENOUGH TO COVER CUTTING THE FALLOPIAN TUBES

    Think of this ruling in light of proposed forced vaccinations and irradiation of children in the classrooms by forced wireless microwave radiation exposures…

    Buck vs. Bell: 1927 decision on sterilizing “moron” Carrie Buck:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell

    On May 2, 1927, in an 8-1 decision, the Court accepted that she, her mother and her daughter were “feeble-minded” and “promiscuous,”[4] and that it was in the state’s interest to have her sterilized. The ruling legitimized Virginia’s sterilization procedures until they were repealed in 1974.
    The ruling was written by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. In support of his argument that the interest of the states in a “pure” gene pool outweighed the interest of individuals in their bodily integrity, he argued:

    “We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes.

    Historian Paul A. Lombardo argued in 1985 that Buck was not “feeble-minded” at all, but that she had been put away to hide her rape, perpetrated by the nephew of her adoptive mother. He also asserted that Buck’s lawyer, Irving Whitehead, poorly argued her case, failed to call important witnesses, and was remarked by commentators to often not know what side he was on. It is now thought that this was not because of incompetence, but deliberate.

    The effect of Buck v. Bell was to legitimize eugenic sterilization laws in the United States as a whole. While many states already had sterilization laws on their books, their use was erratic and effects practically non-existent in every state except for California. After Buck v. Bell, dozens of states added new sterilization statutes, or updated their constitutionally non-functional ones already enacted, with statutes which more closely mirrored the Virginia statute upheld by the Court.

  94. Pat Robinson says:

    While seeking medical research regarding Hepatitis B vaccine and various genetic populations, I found that within one year, “up to half of the subjects failed to maintain a titer”, even after 3 doses of Hep B vaccine! [original source 1998 PDR]

    See Drugs.com info which hasn’t been “updated” from the original text of the Hep B package insert: http://www.drugs.com/…/hepatitis-b-vaccine-recombinant…

    There is a bunch of subsequent research documenting concern about the “efficacy” of the Hep B vaccine over time.

    “Many studies have probed for the reasons why subjects fail to develop adequate anti-HBs titers after hepatitis B vaccination.”

    Effect of Revaccination Using Different Schemes among Adults with Low or Undetectable Anti-HBs Titers after Hepatitis B Virus Vaccination: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2952995/

    “Hepatitis B vaccine has been reported to decline rapidly within the first year and more slowly thereafter.”

    Duration of Long-term Immunity After Hepatitis B Virus Immunization: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01182311

    Wainwright, R.B.; McMahon, B.J.; Bulkow, L.R., et al.: Duration of Immunogenicity and Efficacy of Hepatitis B Vaccine in a Yupik Eskimo Population, Preliminary Results of an 8-Year Study, in “Viral Hepatitis and Liver Disease,” F.B. Hollinger, S.M. Lemon, and H. Margolis (eds), Williams & Wilkins, 762-766, 1990.

    Hadler, S.C.; Coleman, P.J.; O’Malley, P., et al.: Evaluation of Long-Term Protection by Hepatitis B Vaccine for Seven to Nine Years in Homosexual Men, in “Viral Hepatitis and Liver Disease,” F.B. Hollinger, S.M. Lemon, and H. Margolis (eds), Williams & Wilkins, 766-768, 1990.

    Tong, M.J.; Stevens, C.E.; Taylor, P.E., et al.: Prevention of Hepatitis B Infection in Infants Born to HBeAg Positive HBsAg Carrier Mothers in the United States, in “An Update, 1989, Progress in Hepatitis B Immunization,” P. Coursaget and M.J. Tong (eds), Colloque INSERM/John Libbey Eurotext Ltd., Vol. 194, 339-345, 1990.

    Hwang, L-Y.; Lee, C-Y.; and Beasley, R.P.: Five-Year Follow-up of HBV Vaccination with Plasma-derived Vaccine in Neonates: Evaluation of Immunogenicity and Efficacy Against Perinatal Transmission, in “Viral Hepatitis and Liver Disease,” F.B. Hollinger, S.M. Lemon, and H. Margolis (eds), Williams & Wilkins, 759-761, 1990.

    Source: http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm

    “Among children who respond to the complete primary 3-dose vaccination series with anti-HBs concentrations of >10 mIU/mL, 15%–50% have low or undetectable concentrations of anti-HBs 5–15 years after the start of the vaccination series [13].

    In adults, anti-HBs concentrations decrease rapidly within the first year after primary vaccination and more slowly thereafter. A decrease was noticed to a level of <10 mIU/mL in 7%–50% of vaccinated adults within 5 years after vaccination and in 30%–60% within 9–11 years after vaccination [13]."

    13. Plotkin S, Orsenstein W, Offit P. Vaccines. Philadelphia: Elsevier; 2008.

    Hepatitis B and the Need for a Booster Dose: http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/53/1/68.full

    Hepatitis B vaccine in some populations with suboptimal immunogenic responses, such as preterm infants, the elderly, smokers, obese individuals, and those with chronic liver or renal diseases, diabetes mellitus (DM) or human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, the anti-HBs antibody titre declines rapidly in the first year and then gradually after 1 year.21

    Emerging hepatitis B virus infection in vaccinated populations: a rising concern? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3630933/

    "Universal varicella vaccination has not proven to be cost-effective as increased herpes zoster (HZ) or shingles morbidity has disproportionately offset cost savings associated with reductions in varicella disease.

    Universal varicella vaccination has failed to provide long-term protection from varicella zoster virus (VZV)."

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3759842/

    Per the CDC, "Evidence establishes a causal relation between MMR vaccination and anaphylaxis, thrombocytopenia, febrile seizures, and acute arthritis."

    "67% of admissions for a febrile convulsion 6–11 days after MMR vaccination were attributable to the measles component of the vaccine."

    An analysis of claims for encephalitis following measles vaccine in the United States found clustering of events at 8–9 days after immunization, which supports but does not prove the possibility that the vaccine causes encephalitis (Weibel, 1998; Duclos, 1998)

    "Several attenuated mumps vaccines have been associated with aseptic meningitis."

    "The attenuated virus strain in the current rubella vaccine can rarely infect the fetus but there is no evidence that fetal infection with the vaccine virus is harmful."

    CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00053391.htm
    WHO: http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/initiative/tools/MMR_vaccine_rates_information_sheet.pdf

    Are vaccines safe and effective?

    Seen this? VAERS reports for California (scroll down, select Demographics, select NC and "FIND"): http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php

    Found 38,171 cases of vaccine injury reported in California:

    Table

    Age Count Percent
    < 3 Years 9172 24.03%
    3-6 Years 5490 14.38%
    6-9 Years 952 2.49%
    9-12 Years 1467 3.84%
    12-17 Years 2432 6.37%
    17-44 Years 7341 19.23%
    44-65 Years 5425 14.21%
    65-75 Years 2238 5.86%
    75+ Years 1139 2.98%
    Unknown 2515 6.59%

    TOTAL 38,171 100%

    Viewer Caution: http://www.news10.net/story/news/local/2015/04/07/ad-vaccination-debate/25397937/?hc_location=ufi

    Pat Robinson

  95. Pat Robinson says:

    I was a critical care RN for 17 years. I have been a health educator for the past 14 years.

    Vaccinated kids DO spread disease:

    • Transmission of varicella-vaccine virus from a healthy 12-month-old child to his pregnant mother.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9255208

    • Per the CDC, this quote is subtly included, “A small proportion of measles vaccine recipients experience rash and fever 10–14 days following vaccination.”

    http://www.cdc.gov/measles/lab-tools/genetic-analysis.html

    Parents might not want to ignore that detail before giving the vaccine to their child. Or taking their recently vaccinated child to school and around immune-compromized grandma and new babies. Or to Disney.

    • Detection of fecal shedding of rotavirus vaccine in infants following their first dose of pentavalent rotavirus vaccine.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21477676

    • This case documents transmission of varicella vaccine type virus from a healthy vaccinee to susceptible household contacts.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9333170

    • “These data illustrate, to our knowledge, the first detailed genomic analysis of a V-Oka variant (V-Oka-zoster) isolated from a zoster patient following vaccination with GlaxoSmithKline V-Oka vaccine.”

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC535228/?tool=pubmed

    • “Five months after 2 siblings were immunized with varicella vaccine, 1 developed zoster. Two weeks later the second sibling got a mild case of chicken pox. Virus isolated from the latter was found to be vaccine type.

    Thus, the vaccine strain was transmitted from the vaccinee with zoster to his sibling. Vaccinees who later develop zoster must be considered contagious.”

    http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/106/2/e28.full

    • Excretion of small amounts of the live attenuated rubella virus from the nose or throat has occurred in the majority of susceptible individuals 7 to 28 days after vaccination.”

    http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

    • “Vaccine-associated measles five weeks post-immunization, British Columbia, Canada, October 2013″

    http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=20649
    • “Excretion of vaccine strain measles virus in urine and pharyngeal secretions of a child with vaccine associated febrile rash illness, Croatia, March 2010”

    http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19652

    • “Measles virus was isolated in a throat swab taken 4 days after fever onset. This virus was then further genetically characterized as a vaccine-type virus.

    Fever occurring subsequent to measles vaccination is related to the replication of the live attenuated vaccine virus.

    In the case presented here, the vaccine virus was isolated in the throat, showing that subcutaneous injection of an attenuated measles strain can result in respiratory excretion of this virus.”

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11858860?dopt=AbstractPlus

    • Toddler Survives Smallpox Vaccination: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSN1744524120070518?irpc=932

    • The MERCK Manual (1966) “Measles is usually a benign infection with a low mortality rate; 1 attack apparently confers lifelong immunity.”

    Pat Robinson

    • Sybil says:

      Wonderful information. Thank you for all of the relevant links. I have no idea why people argue with these facts. Well, it seems they do not read the facts.

  96. Tammy says:

    Wish she would come to Australia!

    • Wazza says:

      Our government wouldn’t allow it , Tammy. Just like Dr Tenpenny, they know she would lift the lid on their compulsory vaccination scam!

    • Nick L says:

      They wouldn’t let her in

    • Kiwiaussie says:

      Yeah right. I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets added to all Visa applications “what is your belief in regards to compulsory vaccinations?” Can’t have people living here who know how to think, after all.

  97. Adrienne M says:

    Wow. Yeah, what you said Tetyanna. Thank you for giving my unvaccinated child a voice of reason. 🙂 He is a healthy little guy too!

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  99. Carolyn says:

    She will be presenting at this event on May 3rd in Michigan along with Mary Tocco for those interested. http://www.eventbrite.com/e/michigan-vaccine-education-forum-sunday-may-3-2015-tickets-15809506660?aff=ehomesaved&hc_location=ufi

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