March 26, 2019
I live in upstate New York, one county away from Rockland County. My children have not been vaccinated since my about-to-be-20-year-old daughter was a baby for both religious and medical reasons. My world was rocked yesterday when Rockland County Executive Ed Day held a press conference declaring a county-wide State of Emergency because of an ongoing measles outbreak. Starting at midnight last night, anyone under 18 who has not received a measles vaccine will be “barred from public places” for the next 30 days “or until they receive the MMR vaccination.” Parents who don’t comply will face the prospect of a $500 fine or six months in jail.
For purposes of this order, Rockland County Attorney Thomas Umbach says that they’ve defined a place of public assembly as any place that people get together for civic or social reasons, including shopping centers, businesses, restaurants, schools, hospitals, and houses of worship. Outdoor locations are not included.
It’s Not About Public Health
Let’s be clear about this (one of Ed Day’s favorite expressions, given the number of times he used it in yesterday’s press conference): This measure is not about public health.
It is about punishment, punishment for deviance from what Day and his cadre of professionals have deemed “acceptable” behavior.
If this were about public health, it wouldn’t matter whether someone was not vaccinated for a religious or medical reason. In fact, those who are not vaccinated for medical reasons should be the most likely to both catch and spread measles, shouldn’t they? Yet, as Day says, they are exempt from the order “because it’s the right thing to do.” That’s only the “right thing to do” if your real purpose is to punish the religiously exempt families.
And no one mentioned, despite all of Day and company’s vaunted concern for the “most vulnerable”—infants, the elderly (who, by the way, are not vulnerable to measles as the majority gained permanent immunity when they had measles as children), and the immunocompromised—that live-virus vaccines like the MMR shed, making recently vaccinated children a bigger threat of infection to the “most vulnerable” than uninfected children who have not received a vaccine.
What justification did Day give for this extreme action, which as he helpfully pointed out has never been done in this country before? A total of 153 confirmed cases of measles in Rockland County since October of last year.
Of course, for anyone who remembers a time before there was a measles vaccine, the idea that 153 cases of measles over the course of six months, in a county that serves as a New York City suburb, qualifies as a “State of Emergency” is more than a little laughable. In 1962 the CDC estimates that there were three to four million cases of measles in the country, and only about ten percent of them were even reported.
Below is a compilation of television treatments of measles in that era. Note the Brady Bunch episode aired long after measles vaccines were available. By the time I watched it, I had had two different kinds of measles vaccines and the measles.
Like I said, calling 153 cases of measles a “State of Emergency” is laughable. But the situation in Rockland right now is even more ridiculous than that. I noted that of the 153 cases, only 48 have been confirmed since the first of the year. To me that sounds like the outbreak should be just about over. And that does indeed seem to be the case in Rockland, because John Gilmore of the Autism Action Network called the Rockland County Department of Health and spoke to Kevin McKay, who is responsible for tracking measles cases. McKay told him there are only four active cases of measles in the whole county.
In other words, at the present time, there are only four people in Rockland County who can be considered contagious.
In what universe does four cases of measles constitute a public-health emergency, justifying the punitive suspension of civil rights for a significant portion of the county’s population?
It’s not clear exactly how many people are affected by this order; as only 72.9% of the 92,000 children in Rockland County are considered “fully vaccinated” (meaning have received two doses of MMR), even after the recent administration of nearly 17,000 doses of vaccine, it could potentially affect up to 25,000 children.
The Politics of Shame-and-Blame
The first thing you have to understand is that this particular outbreak has been largely confined to the Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox Jewish community of Rockland County. These people tend to have large families and send their children to private schools with a strong focus on their religion. If a child with seven siblings gets the measles, chances are good that at least some of those siblings will come down with it too. So even when an “outbreak” is confined to a few families, the numbers can shoot up quickly. With a current case count of four, it’s conceivable that all of them are from a single family.
A very similar situation occurred in the Ohio Amish community in 2014, which had an outbreak of 383 cases, the largest outbreak since measles was declared “eliminated” in 2000. In both situations, multiple travelers came home with measles after going overseas and went to large gatherings before they knew they were infected.
(“Eliminated” means that measles is no longer circulating in the population, and new infections have to come from outside the country. At this point, they have to originate in the Eastern Hemisphere because measles has been eliminated in the entire Western Hemisphere.)
But wait, you’re thinking, wasn’t the Disneyland outbreak in 2015 the biggest one we’ve had in years? Nope, that one was only 147 cases altogether, and the majority of its victims were adults.
So why did we hear so much about the 147 cases stemming from a Disneyland traveler and how “anti-vaxxers” were to blame for bringing measles back and next-to-nothing about the much larger outbreak the year before?
Hype and politics, my friends.
You see, an outbreak in the Amish community couldn’t be blamed on Andrew Wakefield, Jenny McCarthy, or those damned “anti-vaxxers.” If the media went after the Amish in 2014, most Americans would have seen it for the bullying behavior it is. So, the PR machine waited until measles came to Disneyland before launching coordinated legislative efforts across the country to eliminate religiously and philosophical exemptions to states’ school vaccination requirements, even though very few deliberately non-vaccinated children were even affected.
Other than California, these efforts met with various levels of failure, fortunately, but we all knew they were biding their time for another opportunity. Enter Rockland County Executive Ed Day to up the shame-and-blame ante.
Misunderstanding of Religious Exemption
The media has largely played down the religious community angle of the current outbreak and emphasized the “unvaccinated children” angle. After all, if people knew that this ban amounted to keeping large Ultra-Orthodox families out of synagogues during Passover, they just might see the parallels between laws passed in Nazi Germany restricting the rights and movements of Jews and this effort to punish Jewish families for exercising their right to practice their religion.
“The Council of Rabbis has made it very clear as far back 2015 that there is no such thing as a religious exemption,” says Day. “They urge families to get immunized.” This statement and several others make it clear that not only does Day not understand what a religious exemption is, he doesn’t understand the nature of Judaism either.
As any parent with a religious exemption can tell you, it is the private and personal beliefs of the individual that matter, not the beliefs of any specific religious leader, even if the parent is a member of that leader’s congregation. But perhaps more importantly in this specific case, Day completely misunderstands the traditional (and the Ultra-Orthodox are nothing if not traditional) Jewish approach to their religion.
Students at yeshivas learn everything they can about Jewish law, but they understand from the get-go that interpretation of the law is fluid and variable. Every paragraph has been interpreted many times in many ways and is still argued over by study partners in yeshivas today. In other words, there is no single “right” interpretation. Students are taught to reach their own understanding of holy writings.
Day goes from bad to worse when he proclaims that he is a Christian, and he knows of no Christian objections to vaccination.
As insulting as it is for him to judge others’ religious beliefs based on his own, he seems utterly unaware that the MMR is made using cells derived from aborted fetuses. Many Christians object to abortion on principle and also object to products made from cells derived from abortions, including vaccines. In addition, Christian Scientists, explicitly reject preventive medical interventions.
But none of that even matters. As I noted above, it is the individual’s beliefs that matter, not those of any organization or leader. Day may not have a problem injecting material from aborted fetuses, but he should understand that there are many Christians who do.
(While we’re on the subject of specific religious beliefs prohibiting vaccination, Jews and Muslims have strict proscriptions against the consumption of pork, and the FluMist, rotavirus, and shingles vaccines are all made with porcine gelatin.)
Coercing 100% Compliance with Day’s Vaccine Agenda
Day and others acknowledged receiving a tremendous amount of cooperation from the affected community, but maintain that’s “not good enough.”
“We’re now seeing pockets of resistance,” Day complained. “Our inspectors have begun to meet increasing resistance from those they’re trying to protect. Our health inspectors have been hung up upon or told not to call again. They’ve been told ‘We’re not discussing this. Do not come back.’”
I suspect these families have been hounded and harangued by health department officials since October. Day has made it clear he doesn’t understand their religion or what constitutes a religious objection to vaccination. Is it any wonder that these families have lost patience with their “well meaning” and judgmental harassment? And make no mistake, the judgment is pervasive. Day repeatedly used the words “do the right thing” in yesterday’s press conference, implying that anyone who disagrees with him is “doing the wrong thing.” It’s clear that his definition of the “right thing” is a virtual 100% vaccination rate.
(Day mentions exceptions for “documented medical reasons,” but any parent in New York whose children have been injured by vaccines can tell you medical exemptions are about as plentiful as unicorns. They are generally only attainable after a near-death experience, and only for the specific vaccine that caused it. And even that is usually temporary.)
What is Day’s solution to the “increasing resistance” to health department hounding? Turn up the heat even further—an all-out assault on the people’s right to decide what goes into their bodies in an attempt to crush bodily autonomy forever.
Illogical and Wrong-Headed Policy
And is 100% compliance “the right thing”?
Day says of measles infection, “Every new case is a roll of the dice that can could bring on pneumonia, encephalitis or swelling of the brain, or cause premature birth which can lead to kind of complications and even death.”
That’s true—to an extent. While measles is largely a benign infection in well-nourished children with working immune systems, there are exceptions that mean measles occasionally causes long-term damage or death. But we haven’t heard anything about such complications in the affected families in Rockland. It seems that this particular population is handling acute measles infection quite well.
What Day doesn’t acknowledge is that virtually the same statement about complications and death, especially encephalitis, can be made about the MMR. In fact, many of the families who no longer vaccinate have experienced encephalitis as a result of one or more vaccines, and some have even watched a child die as a result.
Day acknowledges that the vaccine poses a risk to at least some children but immediately dismisses it as a concern: “There’s risk in everything,” he says. “Could there have been a child, a few children who may have been compromised by a vaccination? Of course there could be. But there’s something called the greater good here. And we’re trying to do the best we can in society to make sure that we’re okay.”
Note that Day takes as a given that his determination that the risks of vaccinating are acceptable but the risks of the disease are not is the correct determination, even for those families whose children will necessarily be harmed by the vaccine. That’s absurd.
Reactions to both the disease and the vaccine vary dramatically from family to family and from ethnic group to ethnic group. Some react badly to the disease, and others react badly to the vaccine. From what I’ve seen there isn’t a whole lot of overlap between those groups, yet no one at CDC is analyzing which individuals or which ethnic groups are most likely to be harmed by either the disease or the vaccine. Instead they urge all to vaccinate, and vaccinate again, no matter how much neurological and/or immunological damage children—mostly babies and toddlers—experience as a result. This policy is illogical and wrongheaded at best, irrationally prioritizing “protection” of one population at the expense of the other with no ethical justification.
In addition, long-term immunological and neurological conditions due to repeated immune activation events are incredibly expensive in terms of medical treatments and therapies for families, schools, communities, health insurance companies, and society as a whole. Just as an example, my ex-husband had an autoimmune condition that required a liver transplant. If cancer in his bile ducts hadn’t killed him first, his healthcare would have cost a fortune.
I’ve noticed a preponderance of immune damage in my own ethnic group, people of Irish descent, and, when I was living in Brooklyn, a doctor from the nearby Ultra-Orthodox Jewish community noted that she was seeing a hotspot of a supposedly “rare” condition: PANDAS. If you don’t know, PANDAS is autoimmune brain inflammation—encephalitis again—and is anything but rare in the families of children with autism.
Autoimmune conditions in general have been associated with adverse vaccine reactions; there are several listed on the Vaccine Injury Table, and world-renowned immunologist Yehuda Shoenfeld has written extensively about autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants (ASIA) such as the aluminum salts contained in many vaccines.
I have long suspected that historical events have rendered both the Irish and Jewish ethnic groups epigenetically susceptible to the kind of immune damage that vaccines can cause. Perhaps the very genes responsible for this susceptibility helped my ancestors survive the Irish Potato Famine in the 1800s or Rockland County’s Jewish families survive the Holocaust.
In any event, while we know that genetic susceptibilities exist, CDC has been anything but proactive about discovering what they are and who is affected. Therefore, it is incumbent upon us as parents to assess the risk-to-benefit ratio of any given vaccine for our own families. I don’t know about Day, but my religion will not allow me to take any action that I know has a high risk of causing my children harm, and injecting the MMR most definitely qualifies. I suspect the same is true for many Jewish families in Rockland County.
Day Displays Appalling Lack of Measles Knowledge
As irritating as is Day’s assumption that he knows what “the right thing” is for any specific family, much less all of them, even more disturbing from a public health perspective is that he has no grasp of basic facts about measles. “This is since the disease in 2000 was ‘eradicated,’” Day said, punctuating the word eradicated with air quotes. “The disease was eradicated. Think about that.”
The fact is that measles has never been eradicated, and if it were there would be no possible way for “anti-vaxxers” to “bring it back.” (Smallpox, on the other hand, has been eradicated, and no one other than military and medical research personnel has been vaccinated for it since the 1970s.)
The correct term, as noted above, is “eliminated.” Eliminated doesn’t mean that there were zero cases that year—or any year since—and, in fact, there hasn’t been a single year in U.S. history with zero cases. Eliminated simply means that acute measles infection must be imported from elsewhere—which it is, constantly, because measles is highly contagious and has a long latency period, two things that weren’t true of smallpox.
And now CDC and the scientific community recognize that the immunity of adults who have been “fully vaccinated” has been waning at an unknown and variable rate, so there will always be a significant proportion of the adult population that is vulnerable to infection, making eradication virtually impossible. And, while the elderly may not be currently vulnerable, as the vaccinated population ages, one day they will be.
Day insists he will keep on with his punitive policy until everyone falls in line with his agenda and “we eradicate disease permanently.” “Let’s eradicate measles like it was eradicated in 2000,” he says. The fact that he is making such manifestly inappropriate statements hardly instills confidence that he knows “the right thing” for anyone to do, much less everyone.
What is absolutely clear is that Day knows, at least on a subconscious level, that he and his cohorts are deliberately punishing Jewish families who have come to a different conclusion about “the right thing to do” from the perspective of their children’s health and their religious beliefs: “We made an active decision to insure that if people immediately comply with this, they wake up and vaccinate their children now . . . they can enjoy the holiday season with their children, Easter and Passover.”
Leaving aside the facts that many children get a form of measles from the vaccine and no one is going to enjoy a holiday if their child is experiencing vaccine-induced encephalitis, the unspoken alternative for Rockland County parents is clear: If you do not cave to my demands, I will ruin the holiday you hold dear.
That is extortion, pure and simple.
I feel for Rockland County parents right now. I know how important Passover celebrations are in the Ultra-Orthodox community. But I sincerely hope that, instead of caving to these extortionist demands, every parent commits to escalating rather than erasing their resistance. Day and his colleagues are the ones who deserve punishment for this ridiculous overreach of governmental authority. Don’t let them crush your spirit. Use their tactics of shame-and-blame against them, and show up in powerful numbers. Above all else, don’t let them achieve their goal of complete compliance using such unethical means, it will only encourage more extreme civil rights violations in future.
The time, my friends, for civil disobedience has arrived.
~ Professor
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The latest horror is definitely, former, police officer, Ed Day’s Orwellian speech so cavalierly presented to the public along with his hench men and women hovering nearby, appearing themselves, to be quite unhealthy as a fascist plan for a Martial Law; a deadly regime which will spread like wildfire in every area of our lives.
I thought the doctor looked particularly unhealthy. I didn’t find it a surprise that there were people who chose not to take health advice from her.
“Nothing so aggravates an earnest person as a passive resistance” — but sometimes a more vigorous pushback is appropriate.
What a shameful return to targeted oppression.
Here is link to an article promoting legal action:
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/crime_hate_crimes/news.php?q=1552147796&fbclid=IwAR29bmRvPgpzQQlQDvMHjYmo-qa8ovkW57yAIJi7m-WnKOn5csHz7BBGyDU
My comment originally posted here:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Rockland-County-State-Emergency-Measles-507672921.html
Some comments on this civil rights violation:
* Whenever they do not mention the number of vaccinated vs unvaccinated cases in an outbreak, I guarantee that this means most were vaccinated. In WA state one of the smaller outbreaks received almost all of the attention. Why? Because nearly all of the cases were unvaccinated. But in a neighboring county which had a much larger outbreak, 75% of the cases were vaccinated, however these numbers were actually scrubbed from online media reports.
* The irony here is that this law only applies to children and teens, however recent research has found that immunity to measles vaccine wanes quite quickly, and this will very soon lead to populations which are more susceptible to measles than in the pre-vaccine era. Please read that again. A 40 year old adult is much more likely to be vulnerable to measles than a child. And to double down on the irony, measles is much more dangerous in adults, who now contract measles at a much higher rate than before, precisely because of the use of the vaccine.
*People should be aware that when 194 of the “Disneyland measles outbreak” cases were sampled, it was found that 38% of those cases actually had vaccine-strain measles. This means that 38% of these infections were CAUSED BY THE VACCINE. The CDC knew this information back in 2015 when this outbreak was used as justification to limit vaccine exemptions in multiple states, this information was only very recently published.
https://jcm.asm.org/content/55/3/735
“During the measles outbreak in California in 2015, a large number of suspected cases occurred in recent vaccines. Of the 194 measles virus sequences obtained in the United States in 2015, 73 were identified as vaccine sequences.”
* Why does this law not prohibit persons under 18 WHO *HAVE* MEASLES from going out in public? Can you imagine the cries of civil rights violations if any government tried to prohibit people with AIDS from going out in public? Why are we treating unvaccinated children like they have ebola?
As a corollary to this, there are many states which require Hepatitis B vaccination before a child may attend school. Why is there no requirement that any children who are actually infected with Hepatitis B cannot attend school? I am not advocating for such a policy, I am merely pointing out the glaring contradictions here.
* How many deaths from measles have there been in the past 10 years? Depending on which CDC data you look at, the answer is 1 or 2 cases. Are these legislators, government and health agency officials aware of how many deaths have been associated with measles vaccination over this same time period? Or how many serious vaccine adverse reactions, many of which cause permanent injury, have also occurred following vaccination against measles? Do they also know that you need to multiply these numbers (which are well over 100 and in the 10’s of thousands, respectively) by a factor of about 100 since only some 1% of vaccine adverse events ever get reported?
So many vaccines have components of unclean animals—human fetal, horse, swine, monkey, and who knows what else. They contain heavy metals as well. I am a Christian, who keeps the Sabbath, annual Holy Days, and eat only clean foods, as prescribed by the Almighty, and shun the pagan holidays which the LORD abhors.
Also, I have a son with a disease called Ataxia Telangiectasia, and the MMR vaccine can do terrible damage to some of the kids who receive it; I was going to post a link, to give additional support to your cause, but was horrified to find that The A—T Project has since taken down the article, which was quite detailed and had very ugly photos of what can happen to the skin of these kids whose systems cannot handle the vaccine.
If one receives two doses of the vaccine, there is less than 1% chance of getting the measles if exposed, so why are all these vaccine pushers concerned? If you were born before 1957 in the US, you had all that stuff, and no worries.
In any case, don’t let the Egyptians of today (the heavy hand of Govt.), ruin your Passover! The Passover was first instituted as a home service, and people kept it with the neighbors next to his house. It is very special to have a home Passover. Some look down on me because I prefer the feeling and the meaning that comes through as when it was kept the very first time. Spread the word! If all in your community have these small gatherings, they can’t arrest and fine you all. They can’t afford to have such an appearance of anti-semitism. Trust the Eternal, to protect you; a little lambs blood on the doorposts and lintel maybe, during the present, sad state of affairs. Shalom!
Let’s get serious here. This is nothing more than anti-semitism. [Megaphone Headline: BACKWARD JEWISH SECT WON’T VACCINE AND IS ENDANGERING ENTIRE USA!!!!!!! MAN THE TORPEDOES!!!!] This group will be first demonized and “brought in line” by the council of Rabbi’s as a separation from the mainstream so then everyone can agree on abusing them. That in turn, allows for everyone else’s rights to be trampled. While I’m a vaccine proponent if you don’t want it then that’s your right. Or at least it used to be.
I’ve been reading comments on Days Facebook page and two things popped out:
1-there are only 4 active cases of measles at the moment.
2-there are pans to build some sort of bio-tech pant/company in the area and that this move is a gimme to the industry.
Can anyone confirm the number of active cases?
It is indeed four. John Gilmore called the guy tracking it at the Rockland Department of Health. If you watch the press conference, they hint that people are not telling the truth or reporting cases to their doctors, but I suspect there is no evidence of that. So they could just be making it up to justify themselves. Or they could be paranoid because people got fed up with their intrusions. In any event, if there ARE more than four, they are handling it well enough to NOT need a doctor.
What can we do to help them? A government official who doesn’t even know his state has Religious Exemptions and demands that a religious sect follow his bidding or they cannot participate in their religious ceremonies (Passover) is such a violation of the 1st Amendment! Measles isn’t even on the CDC quarantine list! Is he requiring children who already had the measles to now get the MMR as well? They now have immunity for the rest of their lives; something you can’t get from the MMR as we know.
Measels and mumps were eliminated in this country because vaccines became available. Born in 1956, I suffered both in my childhood. Take us back to 1992 not 1962 !
Get your child vaccinated. You are threatening their health and safety as well as others.
Get over your pride and really care about your children.
You think this is about PRIDE????
How about YOU get over yourself and read a whole lot more on the subject, because if there is ANYTHING people are driven by when choosing not to vaccinate it is CARING about their children.
And to point out the obvious, you “suffered” measles and mumps and not only lived to tell the tale, but lived to post judgmental comments on a website. Many kids with extreme vaccine reactions will NEVER do that. By the way, I had both measles vaccines and got measles anyway and got mumps FROM the vaccine, which I promptly passed on to a family friend who had a very severe case because it was (and is) a live-virus vaccine, and no one mentioned that to my mother.
No. Measles has never even been reduced, much less eliminated.
Measles has been renamed as most doctors refuse to diagnose it in the vaccinated patients. Instead they will call it roseola, 5th disease, hand foot and mouth etc.
And of course, as we can see with the Navy ship story recently, mumps too has been renamed. It gets called “viral parotitis” when it occurs in the vaccinated. The vaccine is 100% worthless. Like the measles vaccine. Like all vaccines.
And nobody in history has ever “suffered” measles. It is a rash and fever. There is zero evidence that it can cause encephalitis or deafness or death or anything else doctors attribute to it. Nobody in history has ever actually observed a measles “virus” enter someone’s body and then immediately (let’s be nice and say within 2 days) cause death or encephalitis. On the other hand, there are many stories of someone being injected with a vaccine and for that child to immediately suffer injury or death.
There is zero evidence that anybody in history has died because of measles virus. There is a massive amount of direct temporal evidence (ie smoking gun) that vaccines cause death and injury.
Some of what you’ve written here is simply not true. My brother had measles when I was younger, and I got it too. There just aren’t as many cases as there were. Are there other viral infections that have rashes? Yes, but they just don’t have the same characteristics.
And, YES, people have suffered (and died) from measles. My brother had a horrible case. They were afraid for his life and his eyesight for some tense days. It HAPPENS. To imply that no one has died from it is just wrong.
Same characteristics as what? Every rash in history has presented itself slightly differently to every otherm regardless of whether doctors diagnosed it as 5th disease, roseola, hand foot and mouth or measles. You only have to do a google image search and see that measles diagnosed kids can present in much the same way as any of the others.
And the severity/duration of the rash is determined purely by the severity/duration of the emotional trauma that preceded it. Just like for every other disease. The virus doesn’t just decide to be more pathogenic in one body than in another. No virus causes a rash and this is easy to understand because viruses spread through the bloodstream so if they caused rashes such rashes would be evenly distributed. They are not. They are typically focused. And they are focused because they are caused by the mind (a separation conflict).
Why do people get a cold sore in one tiny part of the mouth? Why doesn’t the virus travel anywhere else? Why would someone get a rash on their hands, feet and mouth but nowhere else? There are only two possible answers – magic, or the mind.
Being sick sucks but just because doctors believed that a case of measles might lead to blindness, doesn’t mean that it can. Doctors are, historically, wrong about absolutely everything as it relates to disease.
Roseola, so called 5th Disease or slapped check, was called that because the first four diseases, which also caused rashes, were named (measles, rubella, rosella, scarlet fever, Dukes’ disease) earlier. Roseola is apparently caused by Parvovirus B19; there is no vaccination, likely because it really isn’t that serious a disease, unlike the others.
Mumps has always been viral parotitis, so called because it is a viral infection that affects the parotid (cheek salivary) glands, as well as the testes, where it can cause sterility.
Rtp – while no one doubts your zeal, your knowledge of what is known about illness is seriously at variance with the facts. Don’t dilute your arguments by being so blatantly misinformed.
John 99.999+% of every disease in history has been diagnosed without a lab test.
So your entire counter argument is worthless.
Try again.
Untrue. What you’re saying is that people understood what a disease looked like and acted like, even if they didn’t have laboratory proof. If they were 100% right, then they would continue to know what measles looks like and acts like and how it differs from other rashes. And they do. Fifth disease is different from measles, which is different from chicken pox, etc.
By the way, the CDC actually encourages doctors not to diagnose measles in vaccinated patients.
A self fulfilling prophecy.
I could show you the quote but you’d still pretend it wasnt true.
I had measles and mumps in the 1960s. You and I are able to communicate. Many vaccine-injured children and adults are nonverbal.
They have a lifelong disability instead of a temporary illness… which gives lifelong immunity. Stop the straw-man polarizing and ask the CDC why they won’t spend money on researching vaccine adverse reactions.
tuck: “…Get over your pride… [?] A perverse characterization of parents who choose to not allow their children to wear the mark of the slave: vaccines. Rather, it is the vaccine slaves suffering from ignorance and mind controlled terrors, that are threatening our right to choose for our own families. Ex cop, Day’s 21st century Orwellian speech, has been appointed by the health ministries Mafia, of which you, yourself may be a club member for supporting the implementation of population control, suffering, and death and big bucks for vaccine manufacturers. You say you were born in ’52; perfect poster child for getting and becoming immune to measles. Thanks for your support.
Pastors of all churches should start preaching from their pulpits about Big Pharma violating The First Amendment, freedom of religion. Regardless of opinion about vaccines, everyone is America should be defending our Constitutional and Human Rights.
DO NOT SURRENDER YOUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM TO ANYONE FOR ANY REASON!
Please print and post the flyer, share the video and article! http://www.firstfreedoms.org/
Has anyone contacted the Conscience and Religious Freedom Division part of the HHS Office for Civil Rights? Seems like this kind of discrimination is exactly what it was established to combat…
Good point. I haven’t heard of any action whatsoever coming from that office. I suspect it may be where complaints go to die, but it is definitely worth a shot.
All religions will have objections to the vaccines. Being a Hindu, I was shocked when I learned of the vaccine ingredients. Sadly the knowledge came only after my child was vaccine injured. Lot of people assume that only the antigen exists in the vaccine. Hence it is important for people from all faiths/religion to educate themselves and also write about it. This was my prime reason to write my blog. Please do visit my blog if interested at askingallquestions.wordpress.com
When does Mr. Day come up for reelection? And can someone please let us all know WHO will be running against him so we can donate to their campaign and get this arrogant A-hole out of office. Also are there any lawsuits in the works on behalf of all of the children whose civil rights are being violated? Since they are not measles carriers and are no more dangerous to society than all of the adults who haven’t had a measles booster in the past 15 years then they are being discriminated against. Please tell me someone has a lawsuit in the works on behalf of these children? I am sure there are many others who would like to contribute to the cause as well…. I also wish people would point out that there is no measles vaccine, it has not been available in the US since 2009. Only option is the MMR vaccine which is currently involved in a fraud/whistleblower lawsuit slowing dragging its way through Pennsylvania court.
I’ll donate too!
I absolutely love your articles – they are so well thought out and accurate. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much, Elaine! I appreciate it. Unfortunately, due to a severe lack of sleep last night, this one had numerous typos. I *think* I’ve fixed them all, but if you see any let me know.
Is there some number of measles cases that would raise your level of concern? 1000? 10,000? A certain number of deaths? 1? 10?
What difference does it make what would “concern” me? Why would that matter to you in the slightest?
Societally, we may wish to seek to lower the number at any particular arbitrary point, but that wouldn’t automatically mean it’s the “right thing to do.” It’s only the right thing to do if the effort actually results in a healthier population. But we’ve been assuming that’s the case rather than analyzing all the data on health outcomes.
If we were really concerned with public health, we would stop treating vaccines as a sacred cow (speaking of religion) and do the actual research to determine whether repeated immune activation events that avoid the natural exposure pathways is actually making us a healthier group of people or a less healthy group of people. From the copious amounts of scientific papers I have read, combined with my own observations of the health challenges that began popping up when I was a child that were absent in my older siblings and are rampant in the younger generations, I strongly suspect the net effect has been quite negative.
I was just reading an article from 2018 that indicated that Rockland County was the healthiest county in the state. Interesting, isn’t it, given that the vaccination rate was quite low with respect to the rest of the state.
My daughter’s childhood was ruined by vaccines. Call it by any other name, vaccines dished out cruelty and chronic illness to my little girl and which now for others has escalated to date for other children in its demonic, catastrophic permanent injuries and death to the innocent – babies and children whose parents were responsible for their protection, were duped, as was I, into believing that the “vaccine schedule” for my perfect little baby at her 6 month ‘well’ baby visit was unwitting nothing more than ignorant collusion. These jokers that type mindless comments and sling criticisms to the victims and their families are hardly human in my mind. I suppose I will find a way to pray for their sorry souls. LOL.
ProfessorTMR says:
March 27, 2019 at 9:10 pm
What difference does it make what would “concern” me? Why would that matter to you in the slightest?
It’s a moot point and the Prof was correct to respond the way she did. If you want to know how concerned people back in the day were BEFORE the development of a measles vaccine, here is a brief report from the BMJ from 1959. This recording of events put into perspective how measles was viewed before big pharma decided to characterize it as a dangerous illness:
Here is an example of how measles was described back in 1959, nine years before a measles vaccine was introduced in the UK. I have also taken extracts from a few doctors describing their experiences of measles at that time. This paints a very, very different picture of the disease compared to the ones we are being given at the moment
Measles Epidemic:
Taken from: BMJ, Feb 7 1959, page 354
In the first three weeks of this year about 41,000 cases of measles were recorded in England and Wales. This is well above the corresponding figures of the last two years-namely, about 9,000 in 1958 and 28,000 in 1957 -though it is below the highest levels reached in the last nine years. To give some idea of the main features of the disease as it appears to-day and of how it is best treated, we invited some general practitioners to write short reports on the cases they have seen in their practices recently.
These appear at p.380 (extracts from this page follow this article). It is interesting to note, first, that the distribution of the disease is rather patchy at present. It has not yet reached the areas where two of these doctors practise (in South Scotland and Cornwall), and other areas are known to be free of the disease so far. On the other hand, in Kent it is reported to have arrived in time to put the children to bed over Christmas. These writers agree that measles is nowadays normally a mild infection, and they rarely have occasion to give prophylactic gamma globulin. As to the treatment of the disease and its complications, the emphasis naturally varies from one practice to another. Amount of bed-rest, when to administer a sulphonamide or antibiotic, the use of analgesics and linctuses-all these may still be debatable problems in the treatment of what is said to be the commonest disease in the world. But there is probably much in the opinion which one of the writers expresses: “It is the frequent visiting by the interested clinician and not the therapy which produces the good results.”
MEASLES
REPORTS FROM GENERAL PRACTITIONERS
BMJ February 7 1959, Page 380
EXTRACTS
We are much indebted to the general practitioners whose names appear below for the following notes on the present outbreak of measles.
Dr G. R. WATSON (Peaslake,Surrey) writes: Measles was introduced just before Christmas by a child from Petworth…….Treatment of Attack.-No drugs are given for either the fever or the cough; if pressed, I dispense mist. salin. B.N.F. as a placebo. Glutethimide 125 mg. may be given in the afternoon if the child is restless when the rash develops; 250 mg. in single or divided doses at bedtime ensures a good night’s sleep in spite of coughing. I encourage a warm humid atmosphere in the room by various methods: some electric fires and most electric toasters allow an open pan of water to rest on top; an electric kettle blows off too much steam to be kept on for more than short periods. Parents, conscious of the need to darken the room and to forbid reading, may carry this to an unnecessary extreme, starting even before the rash appears. To save a mother some demands, the wireless is a boon to children in darkened rooms. They are allowed up when the rash fades from the abdomen-usually the fourth or fifth day-and may go outside on the next fine day. Apart from fruit to eat.solid food is avoided on the day the rash is appearing; fruit drinks or soups are all they appear to want. Complications.-So far few complications have arisen. Four cases of otitis media occurred in the first 25 children, but only one had pain. No case of pneumonia has occurred, but one child had grossly abnormal signs in the chest for a few days after the fever subsided, uninfluenced by oral penicillin. One girl had a tear-duct infection and another an undue blepharitis. Of three adult males with the disease, two have been more severely affected than any of the children.Dr. R. E. HOPE STMPSON (Cirencester, Glos) writes: We make no attempt to prevent the spread of measles, and would only use gamma globulin to mitigate the severity of the disease in the case of the exposure of a susceptible adult or child who is already severely debilitated. Bed rest, for seven davs for moderate and severe cases and of five to six days in mild cases, seems to cut down the incidence of such complications as secondary bacterial otitis media and bronchopneumonia. We have not been impressed by the prophylactic or therapeutic use of antibiotics and sulphonamides in the first week of the disease. As soon as the patient is out of bed we allow him out of doors almost regardless of the weather. Otitis Media and Bronchopneumonia.-These conditions often appear so early, sometimes even before the rash, that in such cases one can only conclude that the responsible agent is the virus itself. Despite their initial alarming severity, they tend to resolve spontaneously, and treatment apart from first principles seems useless. When, on the other hand, otitis media or bronchopneumonia comes on after the subsidence of the initial symptoms of measles, it is probably due to a secondary bacterial invader, and we find antibiotics or sulphonamides useful…..
MILD AILMENT
Dr. JOHN FRY (Beckenham,Kent) writes: The expected biennial epidemic of measles appeared in this region in early December, 1958, just in time to put many youngsters to bed over Christmas. To date there have been close on 150 cases in the practice, and the numbers are now steadily decreasing. Like previous epidemics, the primary cases have been chiefly in the 5- and 6-year-olds, with secondary cases in their younger siblings. No special features have been noted in this relatively mild epidemic. It has been mild because complications have occurred in only four children. One little girl aged 2 suffered from a lobular pneumonia, and three others developed acute otitis media following their measles. In the majority of children the whole episode has been well and truly over in a week, from the prodromal phase to the disappearance of the rash, and many mothers have remarked ” how much good the attack has done their children,” as they seem so much better after the measles. A family doctor’s approach to the management of measles is essentially a personal and individual matter, based on the personal experiences of the doctor and the individual character and background of the child and the family. In this practice measles is considered as a relatively mild and inevitable childhood ailment that is best encountered any time from 3 to 7 years of age. Over the past 10 years there have been few serious complications at any age, and all children have made complete recoveries. As a result of this reasoning no special attempts have been made at prevention even in young infants in whom the disease has not been found to be especially serious.
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2013/04/15/british-medical-journal-tells-us-measles-is-not-the-scary-disease-the-press-want-you-to-think-it-is/
Let’s put this into perspective:
Let’s say there are 300 cases (not all active as of this date) in the US in the last 6 months. The population of the US is over 300 million. That would mean that 0.1 % of the population has measles-and not all at the same time.
In looking at this totalitarian tactic by Ed Day someone should send him this:
NY Measles outbreak: Of 88 contacts, four secondary cases were confirmed that had either two doses of measles-containing vaccine or a past positive measles IgG antibody. All cases had laboratory confirmation of measles infection, clinical symptoms consistent with measles, and high avidity IgG antibody characteristic of a secondary immune response.” Patient Zero is a 22 year old VACCINATED young lady who contracted measles in 2011. Statically that means at least 90% were vaccinated. Outbreak of Measles Among Persons With Prior Evidence of Immunity, New York City, 2011 *http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/9/1205
-Arch Intern Med. 1994 Aug 22;154(16):1815-20.
Failure to reach the goal of measles elimination. Apparent paradox of measles infections in immunized persons. Poland GA1, Jacobson RM.
Conclusion: The apparent paradox is that as measles immunization rates rise to high levels in a population, measles becomes a disease of immunized persons. Because of the failure rate of the vaccine and the unique transmissibility of the measles virus, the currently available measles vaccine, used in a single-dose strategy, is unlikely to completely eliminate measles. The long-term success of a two-dose strategy to eliminate measles remains to be determined. http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=619215
-Paper: The Re-Emergence of Measles in Developed Countries: Time to Develop the Next-Generation Measles Vaccines? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih .gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905323/ outbreaks/.
The measles vaccine has failed”, he explained two years ago in a prescient paper, “The re-emergence of measles in developed countries.”
Dr. Gregory Poland is Professor of Medicine and founder and leader of Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group. Poland is one of the world’s most admired, most advanced thinkers in the field of vaccinology.
If any of the links don’t connect, just type titles in a search. Stuff has been moved around.
I think he is looking for a critical mass which might be more important than, say, 4. Is there some number which might be worrisome to many?
Or he’s just you looking for self-incriminating comments as usual.
Do you know the “certain” number of vaccine induced PERMANENT injuries and deaths due to vaccines? Do you want to know? Before asking your numbers question, have your researched vaccines? Are you aware that there are no studies showing vaccinated and non vaccinated populations? Do you enjoy living in a fascist country? i could go on….another time.
Measles is very good for the vast, vast majority of children to get. It gives permanent immunity, the ability to protect future infants with placental immunity and breastfeeding in the year when some of them might be in danger if they got measles (which was uncommon before the vaccine because 99% of women had had natural measles growing up), it improves immune function for life, and prevents many diseases, including a large number of cancers, in later life. Dr. Peter Aaby did a Senegal study which found that measles does NOT depress immune function for years (it’s really for two to three weeks after the day the rash appears, and the patient SHOULD recuperate quietly at home until he has fully recovered), and that in the 90% of children who recover from measles even in malnourished Africa, that there was only ONE-FIFTH the all-cause mortality in the subsequent four years as in those who had NOT gotten measles, either because they got the vaccine or just did not get measles. We should not try to prevent measles, but rather let it come back, using vitamin A to prevent most complications (and severe ones are rare), NO fever reducers, bed rest, hydration, and adequate recuperation time. And then recover our society’s health.
This is a quotation from Dr. Richard Moskowitz’ Vaccination: A Reappraisal, on how beneficial measles is. Those with weak immune systems should take the homeopathic nosode morbillinum to prevent measles.
“More or less simultaneously, cloned subsets of lymphoctyes and plasma cells from the thymus and bone marrow synthesize specific antibodies directed against each particular invader, which assist in its destruction and removal; collectively, this special function is known as ‘humoral immunity.’ The inventory of these antibodies includes opsonins, which instigate phagocytosis of the viruses or bacteria; agglutinins, which instigate phagocytosis of the viruses or bacteria; agglutininins, which facilitate clumping or agglutination of them or their antigens; and precipitins, which render them insoluble.
All of these subtypes are clearly designed to assist the cellular mechanism in completing their all-important task of attacking, destroying, and ultimately removing foreign microorganisms and antigens from the blood. Then and only then comes what might be called the ‘frosting on the cake,’ namely, the encryption of a permanent memory of the infection in the genetic material of these immunocompetent cells, to help htem recognize the virus and respond to it even more promptly and efficiently should they encounter it again in the future.
For most already healthy people, the immunity conferred by this spendied and massive outpouring is absolute, lifelong, and profoundly health-giving in two important senses. First, it is specific, in the obvious sense that virtually everyone who recovers from the measles will never again be susceptible to it, no matter how many times they are reexposed to the virus, or how many epidemics of the disease may be raging all around them. Less often talked about but at least equally important is the nonspecific immunity that results from having activated the whole army of immune mechanisms across the board, thus priming the system to respond acutely, vigorously, and in a concerted fashion to whatever other infections it may encounter in the future.
In both respects, the natural immunity acquired by coming down with and recovering from acute diseases like the measles, typically characterized by fever and resulting in expulsion of the offending virus or bacterium from the blood, represents an enormous net gain for the general health of individuals and their descendants, and thereby also of the community, the nation, and ultimately of human life on the planet as a whole.”
Thank you for this information. This is outrageous! I searched for a petition to sign that is against the “state of emergency” barring the unvaccinated from public places. I suggest someone from the NY area start one on Care2.com
Do you have a reference of MMR vaccine being made from aborted fetus cells? Thanks
Yep, the CDC Vaccine Excipient Table: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf
“WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts”
I’m sure you can handle Googling exactly what that is.
Fibroblasts could be from foreskins after circumcision, miscarriage (not abortion) tissue, various other sources.
But in this case, they’re not. They are specifically derived from an aborted fetus.
Miscarriage was sometimes (incorrectly) classified as abortion. In the days before Roe v. Wade, there were few therapeutic (medical) abortions, sometimes known as D & E. What I saw was that the two cell lines that are the current source of the fibroblasts were NOT. from therapeutic abortions, but rather from spontaneous abortions, the then (1962) term if the art for miscarriage. One can certainly oppose vaccinia their ingredients, but not because of medically induced abortions.
I am still waiting for some guidance on my autistic kids. Thanks
Since it appears you are either a wonderful psychic or a “sock puppet” for John Collins, I think you’ll be waiting forever on that guidance, “Arthur.”
I read through the deposition provided, and, yes the source of the cells was from aborted fetuses. That certainly changes things.
Google the insert for the vaccine. It’s right there!
From Dr. Stanley Plotkin’s Deposition:
Deposition of Dr. Stanley Plotkin, given under the penalty of perjury in January 2018. He offered himself up as an expert witness in a child custody case in Michigan and was deposed in Pennsylvania.
Dr. Stanley Plotkin, world renowned Vaccine Scientist who frames the message for the media to give to the public. Who is known as the Godfather of Vaccines and has written what Bill Gates call the Vaccine Bible: Vaccines- in a 2013 poll was named one of the top 50 “most influential people in vaccines,” Dr. Plotkin was voted number two, behind only Bill Gates, volunteered to be an EXPERT witness in a Michigan Custody Case in 2018. He was deposed by Aaron Siri in New Hope, Pennsylvania on January 11, 2018: https://www.docdroid.net/8zJh4QQ/1-11-18-matheson-plotkin.pdf. The entire unedited 9 hour deposition is on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXTaJjfGNAI).
Plotkins admits that the vaccine industry and he himself has used orphans, retarded people and babies born to female inmates as test subjects. Oh yea that lie that has been floating around for decades that the vaccine industry has only used 2 aborted fetuses in vaccine research and development and cells were synthesized from those 2 was blown out of the water by Plotkin’s admission that in just one of his studies he personally used 76 – 3 months normal gestation aborted fetuses. Dr. Plotkin states with a grin:
“The Catholic Church has actually issued a document on that…I think it implies that I am the individual that will go to hell because of the use of aborted tissues which I am glad to do.”
When asked how many fetuses have been used in vaccine development & research he said too many to count.
Also admitted by Plotkin:
Under the penalty of perjury Plotkin’s was compelled to admit that there are NO Double Blind placebo controlled studies on any vaccine. Go to youtube, put in Plotkin’s deposition & Coming Clean About Vaccine Safety. He says they do not follow the Randomized double-blind placebo control studies which is the the “Gold Standard” of scientific research and testing. He says it would be ideal, but it’s not done.
Due to the masterful questioning by Mr. Siri, the very next morning (January 12, 2018) Dr. Stanley Plotkin withdrew from testifying as an expert witness on vaccines—he no longer felt confident to speak about the safety and necessity of the products that made him a multi-millionaire. Remember when you read these statement made by Plotkin he is testifying under the penalty of perjury.
The fact that he withdrew from testifying as an expert witness after his disastrous deposition clearly shows either he would have to repeat in open court what he said in his deposition or he would have to lie an be charged with perjury.
Or, maybe at 80+, with a distinguished career behind him, he didn’t want to subject to the petty sniping of jackals.
What he said about using disabled subjects was horrifying, but was standard practice at the time, less than 20 years after the horrors of Nazi Germany. Doesn’t excuse them. There was a time when cigarette ads quoted doctors (“4 out of 5 doctors prefer Camels”), but not any more.
Ah, I thought there was something “off” about “Arthur Treacher.” I think you got confused and wrote the same comment with BOTH your accounts, John. I guess we can safely ignore “Arthur’s” pleas for “help.”
You mean I can’t agree with someone. Apparently, you thought something was “off” with him because he didn’t fall into your preagreed paradigm.
Yeah, sure. That’s why both of you used the exact same wording in comments five minutes apart that had not yet been approved, you “agree with him.” *eyeroll*
Something was “off” because he was made up. Accept it, dude. You screwed up. Go troll somewhere else, John.
Or, maybe at 80+, with a distinguished career behind him, he didn’t want to subject to the petty sniping of jackals.
What he said about using disabled subjects was horrifying, but was standard practice at the time, less than 20 years after the horrors of Nazi Germany. Doesn’t excuse them. There was a time when cigarette ads quoted doctors (“4 out of 5 doctors prefer Camels”), but not any more.
40+ years ago, shoe stores would radiate your feet, to determine best fit of shoes. Decades later, cancers have developed.
“Petty sniping”? Seriously? Dr. Mengele had “a distinguished career behind him,” too. I guess he shouldn’t have been subject to “petty sniping,” either.
I have rarely been as horrified as when I watched the Plotkin deposition. If we don’t think there is Satan at work in our world, I just don’t know what else to say.
John Collins:
“Or, maybe at 80+, with a distinguished career behind him, he didn’t want to subject to the petty sniping of jackals.”
I think by his initial demeanor and posture he is a man who has never been challenged over his long distinguished career being attached financially emotional and arrogantly to the vaccine industry and now thinks of himself as some kind of savior to mankind. I also think that Dr. Plotkin didn’t have a clue how formidable Mr. Siri was and that he not only knew about vaccine science and the lack of-he knew specifics about Plotkin’s long and distinguished career and extensive conflict of interests.
Dr. Plotkin started the deposition full of hubris but by the end of the 9 hours was deflated as a birthday party balloon.
We (Natural Health Media) have requested the text of declaration from the Rockland County Attorney’s office. At minimum, the text of the declaration should clarify whether parents can be charged when their children violate the segregate regime. So far, this document has not been forthcoming. We are preparing a lawsuit a force them to release the document. Stay tuned.
Excellent! Very glad to hear that there is a lawsuit in the works. I suspect, given the failure of the Waldorf suit that it won’t fly within Rockland County, but higher courts may recognize the insanity of this measure.
They released the order. It’s published on our FB page.