This is not aimed at anyone in particular, so please don’t think it is. I am seeing this vaccine argument all over my newsfeed lately, and I have to put in my two cents.
If you’re pro-vaccine, I get where you’re coming from. Up until last year, I was right there with you. Some of my older friends might remember I used to joke about how stupid “the anti-vaccine movement” is. I used to mock them. I would roll my eyes at parents who claimed vaccines caused their kids’ autism. I figured they were understandably angry and full of grief, and looking for someone or something to blame for a mysterious disorder for which a cause cannot be found. I have two children with autism. I get it. And yet, “science” had “proven” that vaccines don’t cause autism. So I figured these paranoid nuts needed to let it go, and move along and find someone or something else to blame. After all, my own sons had only received a few vaccines as babies, before an out-of-state move and some other life circumstances disrupted our check-up schedules. I figured nah, vaccines didn’t cause their autism. They didn’t even get all that many.
For those who don’t know our story, here it is in a nutshell: I have two sons who were diagnosed with “profound and severe autism” at age two. Both of them. I was told they would possibly never talk, never be able to attend regular school with “regular” kids, and so on. It was not a case of a “quirky personality” or “maybe Aspergers” like some kids have. It was not poor parenting or lack of enough attention. It was severe, classic autism. The kind of autism parents have nightmares about their babies getting.
William
But after a long, hard road and a lot of work, my sons did learn to speak — not always perfectly, but they could communicate. They can, with help, attend regular school. I felt very very lucky.
Then last year, I was ordered to get William the TDaP vaccine. He would not be allowed to start sixth grade without it. For some reason I felt hesitant . . . I put off getting it. I had a weird feeling. But the school persisted and finally sent me a threatening notice. I couldn’t put it off any longer. I talked myself into it. I said, “Well, he’s made so much progress over the past few years. School did that for him! And he’s almost 12 now. What harm could come from vaccinating a 12-year-old? Even most of the anti-vaxxers claim that the problem is introducing too much “stuff” into immature immune systems. He’s almost 12. Okay. I’ll do it, so he can stay in school.” I didn’t qualify for the religious exemption, and I detest lying.
I took him to the doctor and got him the shot.
As we left the doctor’s office, he was crying uncontrollably and hitting himself. William never does this. He is normally my strong, stoic child. But I figured well, he’s autistic and he’s upset that I just let them jam a needle into him. He’ll calm down in a little while.
The fit lasted all night. And I began to notice that he couldn’t talk. All night. He would struggle to put together a basic sentence, the kind he had been saying for years, and he couldn’t get more than an isolated word out of his mouth.
I thought, “Man, he is really pissed about that needle. He’ll be better in the morning.”
William with his baby sister
He wasn’t. For several weeks his behavior at school deteriorated. My normally happy child was miserable. He couldn’t communicate any longer. He had lost precious years and years of learning to speak, and could now only mutter “hungry” or “bathroom.” He was frustrated, and I can’t even imagine the amount of grief he must have felt. For years he worked so hard to learn to speak in sentences, only to have all of that progress undone in a single moment. His voice, that he worked so hard to earn, was stolen.
It took him months to regain his speech. Really, I feel like it took the entire school year before he was speaking in his old way once again. I think the worst of it was over in a couple of months, but it was a long time before I heard long, complex sentences from him again.
Yep, this is the type of “vaccines caused my son to develop autism” story I used to roll my eyes at. I can’t prove it, and I knew if I reported it to the doctor I’d be mocked as a paranoid parent. I did nothing. Because I knew I made a horrible mistake that day, and I couldn’t undo it. I can’t sue, because the vaccine companies have legal immunity. I wouldn’t sue my doctor, because he did what I asked him to do. I can’t sue the school, because I could have lied and filled out the religious exemption form. There was nothing I could do, so I did nothing but watch my son struggle and wallow in my guilt and grief. I hate myself for putting him through it.
Emily and her son Cameron
But here’s one thing I can do. I can tell this story. Sorry, I know for most of you it’s “TLDR” (too long, didn’t read). But I’m telling it anyway.
I’ll never laugh at an anti-vaxxer ever again. I’m now one of you. I think it’s easy to dismiss the concerns of a parent when their 18-month-old, who barely talked anyway, has problems after a vaccine. But my son was nearly twelve years old. And talking in sentences. And his speech immediately stopped the afternoon he got his shot. You cannot tell me I imagined this.
Cameron won’t be getting that shot. I’m sorry that William had to be our family guinea pig. But Cameron will. not. be. getting. that. shot.
Believe me or not, I don’t care. Science has not proven to me that these vaccines are safe for everyone. You make whatever decision you want for your kids, but no one will ever again tell me what to do with mine.
~ Emily Davis Hall
Wow! Thank you for sharing your story. All the more powerful because of your past stance. I’m sorry for what happened…. Mum’s know their kids. I believe you.
Regrettable you had to learn from the school of hard knocks with your stewardship now your other children may be spared from public intrusion, there is another solution it’s called home schooling.
By law when you register something you split the title, you gave/rights up your child/gifted/permission to/for the public school/state benefits, if not why would they have any say in how you handle your private affairs.
Everyone gets two educations the one your given and the one you go and find the truth about, do some research about the origins of the public school system in America you may opt for something better.
I’ve always thought that if Americans are given all the facts, full disclosure by the light of day without all the spin on the back room deals$ of whats good for you or your family they can make the right decisions.
If it so great why do we need someone to tell us to do something or require compulsion.
So they made you an offer and you consented it’s best to ask for proof that you have to or are require by some agent or public servant ” servant they work for you” to do something, it’s all about contract offer and consent if you don’t what rights you have then how can you enforce them, they are your public servants hold them to their oath to do no harm that’s why they have to be bonded without it they act as a pirate in the sea of commerce. Your gut told you what to do, solar plexus, it is a fear base public being used by a US (government-govern =controller ment= mind), a for profit service corporation out of Britain trade marked as US and USA.
There is no profit in wellness, the plantation is getting ist next crop ready for harvest for the medical and science community.
If there is just one question about a treatment or so called cure until it is answered it shouldn’t be used. As always follow the money who profits from this, they have a plan and always have…
Bill Gates says Reduce Population vaccinate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BobKXkrt8M&t=46s
get you paper work in order
We have an influx of people from third world countries who have not been vaccinated. Here, we had eradicated TB, but no more. My son has a diagnosis of autism, but he is alive and physically well. I do not want to deal with hospitals again. He was premature. And in my eyes, he is a boy just a wonderful boy.
Susan, we never eradicated TB. There are still thousands of cases per year in the US, and the vaccine was never widely used here. According to the WHO, fully one-third of the world’s population carry the bacteria, but 90% are asymptomatic.
As for your son, it’s absolutely wonderful that he is physically well. So many autistic people are not. They have comorbidities that make their lives miserable. No one has the right to decide for someone else’s child.
OMG. I feel that too many people STILL don’t understand that the vaccines of today, and going back now at least several decades, are intentionally loaded with poisons, toxins, and aborted fetal tissue because of agenda 21. If you cannot see the bigger picture, you cannot conceive the fact that all this is deliberate. These are not the vaccines of 40 years ago. What you get NOW is a dangerous mystery liquid playing russian roulette with the brains of babies and young children. It isn’t just AUTISM that is happening, ADHD, epilepsy, and a hundred OTHER health problems caused by the evil liquids these poor kids are being shot up with. One thing that CAN be done to help lessen or mitigate the effects is to do a DETOX. Do your research to find out about that. Diet will be important, as well, even though so many people still ALSO don’t understand that GMO’S is another way to poison and alter the dna and brain chemistry of people, and eating it should also be avoided. But, as i said, if you still don’t understand about agenda 21 and the new world order you will disagree with me and want to endlessly argue.
There are scientific reasons for every ingredient in vaccines. Adjuvants such as aluminum salts are used to “enhance” the immune response, meaning that they cannot induce the production of antibodies to the extent required for their arbitrary measurement of “immunity” without it or some other toxic material. Mercury in the form of Thimerosal is used to keep stray bacteria, etc. from getting in the vaccine and causing certain types of harm. The aborted fetal tissue was an effort to eliminate the inherent problems with growing vaccines in animal tissue. Of course that comes with problems of its own. Unfortunately, none of this means that vaccines are safe for anyone, much less everyone, and certainly not in the numbers and frequency that we are giving them. No scientist advocating their use is stepping back and seeing the big picture.
They are not the vaccines of forty years ago, but that does not in any way imply that the vaccines of forty years ago were in any degree “safer” than the vaccines of today. In some ways they most definitely were not, and if we vaccinated as often as we do now we would have seen widespread catstrophic damage then as well. In addition, today’s vaccines are operating synergistically with a number of other toxic exposures such as prenatal ultrasound, antibiotics at birth, glyphosate, Tylenol, and the huge increase in EMF exposure.
You are no professor. There is no reason mercury should be there. It is a neurotoxin. Show the proof …you are just parroting what you have been told or assume. List the reports please.
*sigh* You’re right I AM “no professor.” It’s a nickname on this site, just like Goddess, Saint, and Princess. But that said, I don’t believe you actually read my comment. There IS a “reason” the mercury is there. Did I imply in any way that I thought that means it’s OKAY???? No. And I wouldn’t because I think it’s a crime against humanity. MY point was simply that wanting to go back to OLD vaccines is a wasted wish. Vaccines are toxic by their very nature. The only reason we didn’t see the same kinds of damage in the past that we are seeing today is that fewer people were vaccinated far less at later ages in life.
Apologies…i thought you were FOR these additives. If you are against i remove my previous comment. The JUNK they put in vaccines CAUSE the issues. Dead foetuses, animail bits, poisonous chemicals. Are we MAD to allow it? Yes, the unawakened are under the PR spell of the vaccine promoters. How incredibly sad for that mother who didnt listen to either people who tried to tell her or her own gut!
i can tell ure joking (you BETTER be)
Thank you for sharing. I have a close friend who knows vaccinations caused her son’s autism beginning at 18 months. He is now 26 and doing well with everyday activities but is still nonverbal for the most part. She has home-schooled all four of her children because of they of course would not let them attend school without vaccinations. Keep telling your story. Love and prayers to you!
It’s not so “of course.” Depending upon where she lives, she can obtain a religious or philosophical exemption to the vaccines. The only states that do not have them are Mississippi, West Virginia, and California. Check http://www.NIVC.org for your state’s laws.
I’m in CA where SB277 took away parental rights regarding vaccines IF you want your child to attend public or private school. There is only a homeschooling exemption, but I expect they’ll take that away next. California sadly is all about government control of every aspect of your life. That’s where they are heading. My child was on target developmentally…talking, social, good eye contact, following directions, happy. Then she got that 15 month DTP booster and woke up the next morning….silent, appearing deaf, unable to follow directions, eyes downcast, screaming. The doctor didn’t associate it with the vaccine despite it being the morning after, they told me not to be concerned, then later they just labeled her “developmental delay”…but she regressed over night, it was not a delay. Later titer testing showed she was not only immune, she was off the charts. Hyper immune. She never had another vaccine. She’s 19 years old now….still immune…too immune. Still non-verbal, still 15 months old. When I was a child, I was fully vaccinated with a total of 3 vaccines. Now the recommended vaccines are somewhere over 67. Too many, too soon. The pharmaceutical industry doesn’t have any incentive to consider anything more than profits rather than safety as they have NO consequences due to the Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, which makes them not liable. You can’t sue them. We had single dose vaccines when I was a kid. You could get preservative free vaccines. Now they have 3 in 1 combo shots, but you are still getting multiple shots at a time. They just approved a 6 in 1 shot that will be phased in….God help the children that appeared not to be affected before. It’s no longer about immunity, it’s about pharmaceutical profits. Anything with a side effect of death or a severe neurological damage should always be a choice. You don’t want to give any government control over your body and your medical decisions.
PLEASE do your own research! The statistical probability is infinitesimal that each and every case of regressive autism following vaccinations are ALL “just a coincidence”… even if someone were to claim that a single such case was 99% likely to be a coincidence- for 2000 such cases to ALL be coincidental there is a 0.00000018637566 % chance …. tragically the actual number of children regressing into autism is around 20,000 per year- the possibility that ALL of those cases are just coincidental would be 5.0569883e-88. add to that impossibility, the notion that EVERY single study that links autism and vaccines is “flawed”.. that Hannah Poling’s regression into autism following vaccines was the “only” such case in world history.. that every single case of damages being awarded to autistic kids for vaccine injuries are all just “mistakes”.. that every single expert, scientist, or doctor who publicly warns of brain damage and autism as a result of vaccines are ALL “quacks”.. that multiple other lab analyses have confirmed wakefield’s findings, but they are all “in cahoots with Wakefield”.. that every single incidence of important facts being hidden from the public are all explainable because “they aren’t important”.. Japan banned the MMR, but americans never heard about it at all.. the CDC’s William Thompson’s statements have been blacked out of the media.. honest people do NOT hide important evidence or information- the coverup is proof of guilt. . there is no valid reason that critically important stories should be hidden- anyone continuing to trust those corrupt sources has chosen to stay in the dark.. thousands and thousands of normal children regress into autism each year.. the study below clearly documents the fact, even though the researchers have blindly swallowed the ridiculous “coincidence” theory https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041203100809.htm
The thought of smallpox and polio is quite scary, but why aren’t we researching how to let children get all of these diseases that probably cause the immune system to mature (The Australian Medical Journal says that disease matures the immune system, can’t find the exact article) without leaving any damage or causing death? Both my children had measles, whooping cough, chicken pox and German measles. I nursed them through it, with advice from mother, extra Vitamins, herbs and homoeopathics. I lost the nerve to continue with vaccinations when the elder screamed and went stiff for half an hour after the first vaccination at two months. The teacher said that the children who came back to school after measles were different, confident with a certain psychological strength and aggressiveness. Eczema is going up by 10-14% annually (the asthma pathway) Type 1 Diabetes also increases by 3.5% annually. (From official medical papers/books. I just remember this information.)
US 1/50 reckoned to have autism. Amish 1/25,000 – they dont take vaccinations….
Yeah, but there are a TON of other variables when you talk about the Amish.
A few Amish do vaxassinate – so maybe this is the source of their low autism rates.
There are also strong links btwn acetaminophen and autism – and i’d imagine in combination with a vaccine (baby’s hurting – here’s some children’s tylenol) it is a case of synergistic toxicity.
When the Jews started using acetaminophen as the pain reliever of choice for circumcision, the autism rate of those boys shot up. The two years in which acetaminophen sales dropped (80s) because of product tampering are the only two years that the autism rate dropped in decades….
Chris- I am hoping this link below Brad’s post as he has no reply feature on his post. Your post was right above his so I am trying it this way. I apologize for using your post to link to him. Thanks.
BRAD– You stated in your post: “There are also strong links btwn acetaminophen and autism – and i’d imagine in combination with a vaccine (baby’s hurting – here’s some children’s tylenol) it is a case of synergistic toxicity. ”
That is not correct information. For instance, in this NHS.UK article titled,” Paracetamol in pregnancy ‘link to autism and ADHD’ not proven” It explains that the study was a cohort study and that “the main limitation of cohort studies is they can demonstrate an association between an exposure and an outcome, but can’t prove cause and effect.” It also explained that “not all the links were statically significant … It is possible the significant links identified may not be true causative links and would not be replicated if another birth cohort was used.”
Lastly, the article pointed outzaaaaImportantly, the study cannot prove using paracetamol in pregnancy caused these symptoms.
The causes of both conditions are poorly understood and may involve many hereditary, health and environmental influences, which this study has not been able to account for. ” Read more of the article here: http://www.nhs.uk/news/2016/07July/Pages/Paracetamol-in-pregnancy-link-to-autism-and-ADHD-not-proven.aspx
In an article on WebMD titled: “Experts Dismiss Acetaminophen/Paracetamol Link to Autism Study” it was stated, “Dr. James Cusack, director of science at the autism research charity, Autistica, says in a statement: “This paper does not provide sufficient evidence to support the claim that there is a strong association between paracetamol use and the presentation of symptoms of autism.
“Rather, the results presented are preliminary in their nature, and so should not concern families or pregnant women. This is particularly true given the array of environmental factors which have been associated with autism, only to be rejected later.” Read more here: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/865749
I’m not saying disregard the study and info altogether, but one must read the entire study (not just the abstract or conclusion), look at all the variables and act accordingly. Maybe more research is in order, but this certainly did not show a” strong link btwn acetaminophen and autism.”
I believe he is referring to issues and reactions increasing in rate due to administering acetaminophen to infants for pain relief after vaccination. Not during pregnancy.
He is referring to Tylenol administered to children, WHICH SHOULD NEVER BE DONE, but don’t for an instant believe that Tylenol in pregnancy is safe. Tylenol (acetaminophen or paracetamol) lowers glutathione in the body, which is the master antioxidant and is crucial for effective detoxification. If you have any sort of difficulty with detoxification in the first place (think MTHFR mutations or clogged liver from high levels of sugar, alcohol, or many other chemicals), Tylenol use can cause big problems.
If you want healthy children, NO TYLENOL EVER in their early development.
Thanks Prof – yes i meant that the addition of acetaminophen is not safe for children – especially in pregnancy, but for infants, etc.
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There is a very strong genetic basis for autism. You have two sons with severe autism. Are you aware that having one child with autism puts his sibling at risk of an autism diagnostic of 20xs more than the average child? That’s a 1 in 5 chance a child with autism will have a sibling who’s later diagnosed with autism? Have you been genetically tested because you didn’t mention that and I’m very curious.
Genetics or epigenetics? A stem cell geneticist at Stanford claims only 2% of our health issues stem from genetics, and the remaining health effects (he claims…) are attitude.
He states that your attitude makes for a choice of alkaline or acidic biome for your pathogens and you know how that is going to turn out, of course. Acid = pathogen heaven.
i think he needs to put more credit to environment and toxins therein, food and toxins therein, and the nutritional support you will or will not have depending on whether you or your parents choose food or chemical slop processed garbage and fast “food”.
Two or more kids being raised by the same parents are likely to have extremely similar foods, environment, vaxassination schedule implementation, etc…
A genetic trait that makes one more susceptible to reactions such as these to vaccine components perhaps!
Let’s also consider epigenetics – how many times don’t MDs blame one’s diabetes on genetics because a parent or grandparent had the same disease. Maybe the only reason the current diabetic has the condition is because that is the food, menu, and lifestyle they grew up with – and the one that brings them comfort.
So they eat bad, have some bad health practices – whatever and SURPRISE – diabetes?
Could be same diet, same reaction to the vaccine because of the vaxassination epigenetics like you say if i read between the lines a touch.
Genetics is just another excuse conjured up by vaccine companies and if you don’t believe me I have evidence. Our first child Eli was a normal 18 month old that ran everywhere he went , shouting mommy daddy kitty puppy eat and other words. 3 hours after his first rounds of vaccinations he stopped making eye contact , stopped talking and is 9 years old currently and has not said 1 single word since that day. He did not make eye contact with another human being for 5 years after that day. He is diagnosed with severe autism. My wife family history has zero cases of autism and my family has 0 cases of autism. The Dr’s tried that bold face lie saying it was genetic and any other excuse other than the truth , it was the vaccinations. … period… The Dr told us not to have any more children as it was almost a guarantee that some if not all would also have autism. BS. My wife and I have had 6 more children since and not 1 of them ever received a vaccinations and not 1 of them has autism and every single one of the six has accelerated learning each and every one a strait A only student and 4 of them bumped up in grades in school and the other 2 in accelerated learning programs for academicly gifted children…. All of you sheeple who keep holding to your beliefs that vaccinations do not cause autism are wrong , the belief you are holding on to is a lie from the pits of hell. My oldest baby Eli suffering from lies possibly for the rest of his natural life because of the lies and because so many sheeple eat the hands full of bull you are fed by pharmaceutical companies and you people are why there has not been a stop to vaccinations or a halt until they can be made safe. You all who disbelieve allow and condone the vaccinations are enablers . Wake up
Thank you for your testimony, Joseph. It’s very powerful. As far as genetics is concerned, there is an interaction between environmental insults like vaccines and genetic predispositions. Your children were clearly not genetically destined for autism, but may ALL have a predisposition to harm from vaccines. I’m so glad that you didn’t vaccinate the others.
Did you see this article? It seems a very coherent, logical etiology for ASD issues – and who knows how many other neurological (and other) issues?
Fascinating read, and it ties in with what i’ve read which makes sense.
It implies that we are MAKING our children susceptible to vax damages in two primary means; in utero vaccination through the mother and the increased IL-6 levels this causes which changes brain chemistry – and of course the multiple insults of a heavy jabber schedule…
https://medium.com/@jbhandley/did-chinese-scientists-find-autisms-missing-puzzle-piece-2d50be5b9122#.qwh4ysbyd
Yep. JB does a great job explaining how the pieces fit together. We hosted a series of blogs from Vaccine Papers tracing the logic before these last few papers were published. It all makes total sense, a lot more sense than people who supposedly understand science saying that there’s no plausible mechanism for it to occur.
Great story! So sorry for Eli, though 🙁
@Skeptical
Regardless of the genetic testing, people need to distinguish between “autism” and autistic spectrum. The classification has been changed because fewer than 1 in 100 children who exhibit autistic behaviors have genetic markers for autism.
There are a thousand things that could land you on the spectrum even if you don’t have the genetic markers. Every hear of mad hatter disease? (heavy metal poisoning, such as mercury) That’s will land you on the spectrum. And, coincidentally, mercury and/or aluminum are in most vaccines.
Mercury and aluminum are NOT in most vaccines. Sheesh.
Mercury: Influenza, Japanese Encephalitis, Meningococcal, Td
Aluminum: Tdap, Meningococcal Group B, Anthrax, HPV, Hib-HepB, DTaP, DT, HepB, HPV 9-valent, Japanese Encephalitis, DTaP-IPV, DTaP-Hepb-IPV, Hib-HepB, DTaP-IPV-Hib, Pneumococcal 7-valent, Pneumococcal 13-valent, DTap-IPV, HepB, Td, TT, HepA-HepB, HepA
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/components-Excipients.htm
The childhood vaccines that DON’T contain one of them: MMR, varicella, rotavirus, and monovalent IPV and Hib, which are rarely given without any aluminum or Thimerosal-containing vaccines. That may not be close enough to “most” for you, but it sure qualifies in my book. Sheesh.
It would be nice if people didn’t make up imaginary points to sell vaccines to others. Really.
Read an article by two virologists who work on a vaccine production line back east in the US – and they say that the lines are wiped down and disinfected with thimerosal. This means that you WILL have trace amounts of mercury i virtually all vaccines, and since the last time i went to the actual EPA website, they stated that the safe level for either ethyl OR methyl mercury in humans was zero – some will be affected, more as more shots are given.
I was just listening to a lecture this past weekend and heard that Thimerosal was involved somewhere in the production of ALL vaccines and cannot be completely screened out, so all vaccines would be contaminated with at least nanoparticles of mercury. I haven’t been able to verify this, but this was straight from some very well-known and conscientious Italian scientists. Your statement from the virologists would explain that.
About 2 years ago someone was hammering me with how safe mercury was because it was ethyl or whatever. So i went to the actual EPA website, where they stated (at that time, perhaps they changed it? Haven’t looked again) that the human safety level for EITHER ethyl or methyl mercury was ZERO parts anything.
So even trace amounts, adding up as more and more vaxassinations are being coerced on the lemmings….
At the rate things are going – in five years people will look back on the current vax schedule and think “Oh for the good old days when we only had to take 72 shots before the end of high school instead of the 138 today…”
Thimerosal, which I’d presume the most concerning of the two, is only found in multi-dose vials of flu vaccine. That, to me, qualifies as the exception rather than the norm (or “most”).
https://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/questionsaboutvaccines/ucm070430.htm
Regarding aluminum, while there’s not zero risk, the risk associated with aluminum is far outweighed by the benefits of the vaccine. On that last sentence, you are of course free to weigh your own risk/benefit, but science is not on your side unless, of course, you’re a conspiracy theorist.
https://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/scienceresearch/ucm284520.htm
Now, I suppose it makes it convenient to add aluminum to the Thimerosal conversation so that one can disingenuously say something like its in “most vaccines”. But I find it misleading, at best, given the work that’s been done to remove mercury compounds from vaccines, even though there’s scarcely been enough evidence that its toxic at the doses administered.
You “presume” wrong. There is now a tremendous body of science indicating that aluminum’s presence in vaccines is a massive problem, wreaking widespread havoc on the health of a large number of vaccine recipients. In your opinion, the benefits of “the vaccine” (I’m assuming by that you mean ALL the vaccines on that list, which anyone who understands anything about science or the human body can see is a ridiculous and meaningless pronouncement) outweigh the risks, and you are of course free to weigh your own risk/benefit, but science is most definitely not on your side when it comes to the number of vaccines we give, the timing at which we give them, the justification for specific vaccines, or the indiscriminate way we administer them to all, with virtually no regard to immune status — whether you’re a conspiracy theorist or not.
Now before you go around accusing people of being disingenuous and misleading, go READ the body of science on aluminum. You can start with papers by Christopher Exley who has spent his career studying the effects of aluminum on the body.
And while you’re at it, it’s probably worth your while to READ the science on mercury as well. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has saved you the trouble of even having to look for it. It’s all in a book named “Thimerosal: Let the Science Speak.” You should know that there is ZERO oversight as to the “work that’s been done to remove mercury compounds from vaccines” as well. All the manufacturer had to do was file a process with the FDA for said mercury removal. The FDA doesn’t check to see if the process actually WORKS and the mercury is removed.
i think everyone needs to reexamine their “science” regarding aluminum in vaccines. Why is it put in vaccines? Because it “increases antigen response” – the (false) measure of vaccine effectiveness. So let’s look a touch deeper. Antigen response means that (most) people make antibodies to remove SUBSTANCES from the body that shouldn’t be there.
It could be apoptic cancer or other cells. It could be allergens like pollens, dust, mold/mildew, pathogens – and the toxic ingredients in vaccines and drugs. Because your body increases it’s antibody production when the aluminum, and squalene, and MSG, weird DNA fragments, and…. are added to the pathogens that you are THEORETICALLY taking the vaccine for. Ostensibly to protect you from diseases.
So – what are antibodies? “Y” shaped proteins that remove the antigens – very SPECIFIC antibodies. The antibody for one type of influenza A will not remove the other types of influenza A. The certainly won’t remove aluminum or vice versa. So in essence – you DO make more antibodies if you do so – BUT those extra antibodies fighting all those varied toxic chemicals do NOTHING to prevent that disease you say you’re protecting yourself from. That aluminum antibody does nothing for any disease.
That polysorbate 80 antibody does nothing against any disease. They just increase the load on your immune system. Now instead of cleaning up a pathogen, they have toxic metals to unnecessarily deal with. If the other ingredients cause other different antibodies to form, those have NO function in protecting you from that (or any) diseases.
In the middle of the last century there were found those with a condition called agammaimmunoglobuminaemia – they couldn’t make any antibodies. Yet they got the same childhood diseases, and got cured just like everyone else. So the measure of vaccine effectiveness because of “antigen response” is more than just flaky – it’s grossly inaccurate in depicting the level of immune functioning in a human body.
Additionally – when you add all these other toxins – for those with agamma…etc – you are really piling on the poisons to the detriment of that person. But the morons giving the shots didn’t check to see if they had a person with such a condition, did they? Nope, just a shotgun approach and who cares when some of them become damaged or dead from their irresponsibility.
The true stupidity of the whole vaxassination stance (the JABBER crowd) is that when the vaccines are given, and the other adjuvants and ingredients cause more antigen response by forcing the body to make more antibodies -THE BODY IS WORKING AND MAKING ANTIBODIES TO GET RID OF KRAP THAT SHOULDN’T BE PUT INTO THE BODY!!!! THAT is why the aluminum brought forth a response. So you don’t need to put aluminum in the vaccine because either the person has agammaimmunoglobuminaemia or some relative and CAN’T make the antigens, or the person has an adequate antibody generating capability and making the body do the extra work is stupid, unnecessary, and an extra load on your immune system.
The IgG antibodies aren’t nearly as specific as you’re thinking. The antibodies lock on a particular feature of the antigen, and if other viruses or even human body tissues have a similar stretch of protein coding, the antibodies will neutralize the virus. There is a situation where the antibody will bond with a virus, but not have a good enough match to neutralize it. This ends up “enhancing” the virus’s effect, and the person gets severely ill. They found this effect in operation in people who got one of several types of dengue fever AND another type or a vaccine. The immune system is much more complex than we generally treat it.
So what protein coding is shared by metals like aluminum and mercury – and smallpox? Which proteins are similar in squalene and Polysorbate 80 and measles or chicken pox?
i don’t think they are being honest.
Oh, Brad, the complexities are enormous. There are several classes of antibodies which do different things. One of the classes that’s causing a lot of problems for people these days is IgE, the source of allergic illness. Aluminum is known to stimulate IgE generally and may bind to “non-targets” (meaning “antigens” other than those contained within the vaccine), so that one could become allergic to virtually any protein in the blood. Virtually all of our vaccines contain some form of animal protein (including human). But as Richet demonstrated, injection of foreign proteins alone is enough to cause severe allergic illness if it is done in the amounts and intervals most likely to cause sensitization and anaphylaxis. Smallpox vaccine was a live vaccine and did not contain mercury or aluminum, and worked along a different mechanism (scratched into skin rather than injection). I have not heard of it being responsible for either autoimmunity or allergy
Squalene is actually a substance that we have in our bodies normally, mostly concentrated in our joints. If we create antibodies to it, then our bodies may attack the squalene in our joints. Polysorbate 80 opens the blood-brain barrier, which allows many things through into the cells of our brains that don’t belong there, including measles virus. Aluminum adjuvant goes into the body in nanoparticle sizes, which get engulfed by macrophages and carried into the brain as well.
Thanks Prof – great stuff to know, and i wish i knew more in that vein. i’d read some medical course notes which strongly implied a specificity which apparently is not as accurate as they’d said. Thanks for the clarification.
So like my peculiarity of having both a main motto (i try to not be the worst part of anyone’s day) and an emergency, back-up motto (technology is great except when it sucks) and an alternative emergency, back up motto (if you can’t get it right, improvise) – my alternative “response” to your information is this;
When these other antigens are added, there is simple verification that the immune system is working. So what – why endanger a system, and why load up the immune workload by adding all these different ingredients, toxins, and adjuvants just to see that humans WORK AS DESIGNED! Seems not only inordinately stupid, but also unnecessary AND obviously: dangerous.
So either a body can make the antigens like designed, or we are genetically incapable because we have agammaimmunoglobuminaemia or something parallel (or they changed the condition’s label from last century) and can’t make the antibodies. In that case you REALLY loaded up the problems.
Either way – if you want to fight the disease, maybe you could JUST put in the live or dead cell pathogen you are pretending to fight…..
You may not be able to sue, but you could absolutely have registered the vaccine injury. You might even still be able to.
How can you be that retarded? Being given a shot doesn’t instantly spread it to your entire body. There is no way that your son was acting like that because of the vaccine. We aren’t sure how autistic minds work and so this behavior very easily could have been caused by the needle and it lasted so long because he blames you for letting them do that to him and he saw you everyday, reminding him of that.
Usually, we just trash comments like yours, but I’m letting it through because I want you to know just how FAR from being an “Educated Citizen” you really are.
First off, “retarded” should never be used as an insult. People with intellectual disabilities do not deserve you holding them up as an example of what NOT to be.
Secondly, “being given a shot” CAN “instantly” spread throughout the body. Ever heard of anaphylaxis? Life-threatening allergy? You can have mere minutes from exposure to DEATH, and it is a documented side effect of vaccines (http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/vaccineinjurytable.pdf) — which shouldn’t be too surprising, because the ingredients of a vaccine can get into the bloodstream quickly, and it takes “about a minute” for blood to circulate throughout the body. (http://www.brainstuffshow.com/blogs/how-fast-does-blood-flow-throughout-the-human-body.htm)
And, thirdly, you say “we aren’t sure how autistic minds work,” then proceed to TELL this child’s MOTHER how his mind is working. THAT IS INCREDIBLY RUDE AND PRESUMPTUOUS ON YOUR PART. “We” MAY not be “sure how autistic minds work,” but any mom worth her salt has a pretty good understanding of how HER OWN CHILD’S mind works.
I would say to take your so-called education elsewhere, but it occurred to me that you should stick around and just shut up until you truly are educated.
Well said!!! 👏
Professor TMR that is!
YES!!! I can’t believe how ignorant his comment was. From a mother with a vaccine-injured child; THANK YOU!
Professor TMR,
THANK YOU for this wonderful comment!
I was just about to write the same..
I have to add I am around many highly educated people and I have learned that they are the group of unbelievably limited and closed minds..Not sure why…It doesn’t make sense to me, but it is the truth about them.
Highly educated may actually be very brainwashed. It does not particularly mean that they are any more intelligent than others. One does not get handed IQ points with their diploma, and intelligence is more than just IQ anyhow. It also involves short and long-term memory, curiosity – do you have interest in many things? This allows you to reach into your memory and compare disparate knowledge and sources and have a wider viewpoint and synthesis to perhaps achieve a better understanding or unique viewpoint. The critical thinking skills are needed here – how did your little stint at blacksmithing make a parallel function with your building that million dollar home and both reflect on your current permaculture endeavors???
You know what i mean? Educated is frequently just trained to think in a specific way – and that frequently mandates having to accept societal paradigms regardless of their validity.
Great comeback!!
Not brad btw
You clearly don’t need to hear it again, but, well said!
Thank god you spoke up!
I couldn’t have said it better myself, Professor.
So you think it can’t instantly affect someone? That’s so cute. I have 2 kids who had aniphylactic reactions to their shots as infants. This was 2 years apart, not on the same day so it wasnt a “bad batch”. So please go on and enlighten me about how that can’t happen?
You need to find a new screen name because the absolute last thing you are is an EDUCATED CITIZEN
Actually her/his name kind of explains things, lol.
In 1862 the lack of southern congress people made any legislation in the fed govt impossible because they couldn’t meet quorum. So they (without quorum – making the legality more than suspect) disbanded the nation of the united States of America, and made The United States of America – a corporation chartered out of Wash DC – and all courts, states, etc are now all under that system. They are ALL corporations.
Citizen was the legal name for slavery – if you’re old enough (like me) your birth certificate has your footprint inked onto it. This is a slavery registration, historically. Citizens are not free. They are the legal property of the corporations in which they reside.
As an educated citizen, this slave is totally inline with the propaganda her slave masters have dictated to her and brainwashed her with.
So you see – it’s kind of appropriate, but not in the way that most people think of it. Most believe “citizenship” is good. Most think education is good – and learning to think for ourselves and educating ourselves is GREAT – but swallowing the flawed societal paradigms bought by the wealthy is NOT intelligent – it is being “educated”.
Agree!!!
Educated (NOT) Citizen, You are one of the Educated F–Ls that has never did any research for your self!(except what the media feeds you!) Just believe what you have been trained to believe. Those vaccines go directly into your bloodstream and crosses the brain blood barrier and attacks the neurons in a child’s brain. The child bio and chemical make up and their immune system plays a major part in witch child is affected!! Do your homework!!!
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Thank you educated citizen for bringing reason into the room. Obviously this mom is an award winning medical researcher and a rocket scientist as well. (eyeroll)
Wow, sorry Chris, but if you think “Educated Citizen” represents “reason” you have no clue whatsoever what the word means. Oh, and as far as the “rocket scientist” crack, I’ll bet I’m a lot closer to one than you are. I majored in Physics (at a college that is usually number 1 or 2 on Forbes’ list of best colleges in the country), having completed the degree in three years, minored in Astronomy with the Harvard-educated AUTHOR of our Astronomy books, and worked as an Electrical Engineer. And just to give you a sense of my “reasoning” capability, I received 800s (i.e. perfect scores) on both the math and logic sections of the GRE. So, um, yeah… (eyeroll) indeed.
Well, biochemistry is not like the hard sciences, that’s for sure. You don’t have to factor in epigenetic influences, lol.
There is so much evidence, proof, verification – that vaccines are NOT as safe and NOT as effective as claimed. i don’t care what your scores are, you aren’t the only intelligent person extant.
Personally i’m SUPPOSED to have a 137 IQ without ever finishing the math portion of the test. Supposed to be around 160 or more. Yet i have magically made mistakes myself, held wrong opinions because of things i’d read -which turned out to be supportive on an agenda i was unaware of at the time.
Same thing with vaxassination. There IS an agenda. Our CDC is a private corporation – and holds 20 vax patents, is listed on Dunn & Bradstreet, etc. It’s board of director analogue is run by pHARMaceutical (keeping harm large) executives.
i’ve studied biochemistry, nutrition, and natural healing since 77. By 78 i’d learned things that MDs are just hearing about in the last couple of years AND STILL IGNORE. (cholesterol, fats, butter, salt/sodium, supplementation, organic food nutrition levels, ineffectiveness of chemo/radiation “therapies” which actually are cash cow murder systems, etc)
The things you are supporting on the vax front are disproven. Biochemically, you CANNOT induce “herd immunity” from ANY vaccine – EVER. The biochemistry is wrong because vaccines don’t work the way that mandates the long-term, permanent immunity which is transferable to the next generation. A simple example would be that when i was growing up, almost everyone developed measles as a child. None of the thousands of students that went to school with my family’s 8 children had permanent injuries, or died from those diseases – although the polio vaccine crippled my neighbor Paula… Anyway – we developed PERMANENT, TRUE, IMMUNITY – which vaccines can NOT provide, ever. The children of women with this permanent immunity pass down temporary immunity to their infants through their breast milk.
This does NOT happen at all with any vaccine antigen response. One thing nobody else seems to have picked up upon is the measurement of antigen response and it’s irrelevance. At BEST – vaccines generally cause (sometimes) cell-mediated response and antigen response. About 2-4% of the time, there is no antigen response. Yet there is at least one study in which a group of infected people were observed and it was known that some of those infected people had no antigen response.
They had no different cure rate, severity of infection, duration differences that were discernible at all. This greatly implies that as a measurement of vaccine effectiveness – antigen response is pretty worthless, other than PERHAPS a marker of an individual’s immune system health.
We could go on, but i think that there are inadequate industry studies – and this is the reason that the vax mfgrs resist doing meaningful studies. They know they would end up looking bad and losing their trust and market.
OMG PROF – my email did not show that this was you!!!!! So sorry to have assumed it was from an antagonist.
Apologies and obeisances and all sorts of meaningless regrets thrown to you in humble and abject remorse!!
Please forgive!
But i DID think that you might be interested on my take regarding “antigen response” as a “valid” measurement of vaccine “effectiveness”. i mean, is there something missing from that logic? i have made mistakes – almost. i had thought i made a mistake once, but i was wrong…. (lol – poke at self)
No worries, Brad. After doing this for years I’m not that touchy. I once got called a pharma shill by someone who turned out to be one of this site’s biggest fans. 😀
And, yeah, use of antibody titers as a measure of “immunity” is flawed at best. The thing that no one seems to take into account is that the immune system is extremely individual, partly due to genetic diversity, and partly due to the fact that it changes when exposed to all sorts of environmental factors. Actually, Charles Richet discussed the individuality of immune response and its alteration by exposure to injected proteins in his Nobel Prize Acceptance lecture back in 1913.
Aaaah – thank you, now i can stop flogging myself, lol.
i believe (myself) the significance goes way beyond individual biochemical response. i think it points to a measurement which in many cases may mean absolutely nothing.
If one without antigens fights illness the same basic way and with the same effectiveness as someone who does develop an antigen response – the measure of “effectiveness” in fighting disease is basically pointless…
To then measure a vaccine effective by this antigen response is garbage.
It’s like stating that the house i built is guaranteed to be strong because i can have it filled with ping-pong balls – a LOT of ping-pong balls, so it must be strong. If i bothered i could come up with a decent analogy, but i have to run out to the barn/shop and sharpen a few sets of planer teeth so i can build the cabinet face frames for our kitchen remodel.
No doubt i need to figure out the roofing system for the corn crib i have much of the way managed to build – restricted budget mandates piece-meal building…
Love ya and what you are doing Prof – thanks for all your work.
It doesn’t necessarily mean it’s pointless. The point of a vaccine is to create these antibody responses. And it is clear that vaccines in general DO reduce the overall rate of acute illness, so it is likely that antibody levels have SOME relevance in whether or not immunity is conferred, it is just not the direct relationship that is generally assumed because of the tremendous individual variety in the way an immune system can work. That, of course, still doesn’t automatically make vaccine-induced immunity a good thing, at least across the board. It’s an inflammatory process, and research has shown that chronic low-level inflammation (hello? Vaccines! Especially LOTS of vaccines) is implicated in most of the leading causes of death.
And you’re welcome. 🙂
i still lean more heavily on the side that with people responding just as effectively with and without antigen response – that it is a total crapshoot about a vaccine’s effectiveness.
There is no more individual care here than knowing if a person has mitochondrial damage that makes them more susceptible to autism from either the vaccines or acetaminophen, or whatever.
Stating that you are going to get an antigen response seems like just another guess. Maybe good odds, but nevertheless – just a guess. As for antigen response i agree the inflammation is an issue for sure. i suspect that in the natural occurrence of the disease where we get the probiotic support, the liver and kidney detoxifying, the lymph system lymphing it’s metaphorical ass off, the thymus turning on the keys to which pathogens to attack with the killer “T” cells and all the rest – the antigen response IS nice, but not anywhere nearly as complete as the real deal disease fight.
Thus – biochemical impossibility of immunity as individual OR herd from vaccines – and i think the antigen response is at best vastly over-rated – but is replicable and something they can point to and pretend it makes everything work…
Man – you have no idea what you just stepped into, lol.
You are so unarmed in the battle of intelligence you opened you lost with your first sentence, man. (woman? Chris goes both ways)
I support this author in sharing her story and what happened to her son.
What I hope she understands and is able to relay to other parents who may be in her situation, a Religious Waiver is a sincerely held belief— and if she does not live in CA, WV, MS, and NY { NY religious waivers have been challenged in court} she can utilize the right to a Religious waiver.
I hope in time she finds a doctor for her family that does not mock her or bully her into adolescent and adult vaccines.
PLEASE EVERYONE GET TESTED FOR MTHFR genetic mutations that are implicated in Autism (and many other illnesses). Also get tested for other gene mutations. Only by sharing the science of who may or may not be more susceptible to the damaging effects of vaccines (and other things) can we better protect ourselves going forward.
If found to have MTHFR mutations, there is HOPE and HELP. Once you restore methylation pathways in the body, the body can clear toxins again -otherwise, they keep piling up inside.
http://mthfr.net/
23andme.com (for testing- easy saliva test)
geneticgenie.org (to decipher the test results)
I appreciate the advice about looking for genes that make one more susceptible to vaccine damage. It could be useful in trying get a medical exemption. I do however have one question. Since when was ANYONE blessed with DNA that can fully guarantee protection from damage, when injecting known toxins, in doses KNOWN to cause brain and other serious injury and even death? It’s all in the old tried-and-true “toxicology studies” of the INGREDIENTS found in the shots. These known toxins do not magically transform into “safe” just because we INJECT them directly into our bodies, or because we a dumb enough to trust big pharma funded, controlled, and proven FAKED “vaccine science”.
All great points to more than consider. Additionally, the genetics is not the driver of the biochemical health. One may, for example have the BRCA-1 gene or whatever the heck it’s labeled – and taking vitamin D makes it non-functional in terms of making a woman develop breast cancer.
Therefore, we can have all the markers in the world – but we DON’T know all the genes, we DON’T know how they relate to diseases, we DON’T know how epigenetics affects or negates the genetic tendencies on all these issues – and so there is no possible manner in which there is a ‘guaranteed’ safety, or proven knowledge – regarding either threat, or safety from a threat.
Can you give me some links or sores that say there is an increased risk of vaccine damage when one has the MTHFR gene mutation ??? I have 2 copies of it and thankfully I never vaxxed any of my 3 but I’d like additional resources on how it might cause damage because of that mutation…
Despite having no vax other than the K shot, my oldest has SPD and ADHD… The other 2 didn’t get the K but they are younger…
The main issue is that the MTHFR mutations affect methylation, which is a primary means by which the body detoxifies itself. If the body cannot detoxify, any toxic insult will have a greater effect.
Amy Yasko provides a great overview of the issues involved: http://www.dramyyasko.com/our-unique-approach/methylation-cycle/
Thankyou, good advise
i’m going to treat this like BRCA-1 and other genetic “diseases” and predispositions.
The REAL science says that very, very little of our health problems is actually predetermined by genetics. We THINK it forces our behaviors and susceptibilities because if you have two blond, Norwegian parents your child is not going to look like an Australian Aborigine – and vice versa.
In terms of health there may be a predilection toward a specific illness as in the BRCA-1 gene leaning toward breast cancer. The REALITY is that epigenetic (above genetics) factors like attitude, diet, toxin load, environment, and more are MUCH more predictive and frequently cut off the negative effects of the genetics.
A stem cell geneticist at Stanford states that 2% of our health issues are due to genetics. He (erroneously) states the rest is due to attitude. His premise is that a positive attitude alkalinizes (?) the body making it less susceptible to disease, and negativity and worrying make one acidic and prone to infections.
Obviously there is more – that seems to imply pathogenic susceptibility – and i believe that good foods, good healthy environment, safe/clean water, and good living can keep us clean on the acellular (inside cell) level. When some of our choices include making our water intake reach the 4th state (H3O2 – other 3 states; gas, liquid, solid) it protects our DNA. This can happen by taking in 4th state water, converting it through infrared heat, nitric oxide interactions (breathe nasally) oxidative supplementation like food grade H2O2 or ozone…..
Hi!
I have mthfr C677t, homozygous. I was tested during my second pregnancy because I was curious about my son’s lip and tongue tie. He also had a vaccine induced seizure at five months old and never slept well again (no solid nights of sleep since, so five years).
I haven’t had him or my daughter tested, but I know they have at least one copy, right? How can I help the three of us and our bodies to methylate? I’m in a constant state of overwhelm because, while I know I have some control and have done some reading, I’m not a medical professional by any stretch, so I don’t know where to begin.
My son won’t swallow a pill, is a very picky eater, and I struggle to get nutrients into his body as it is.. Not sure what my next steps should be, but I have a gut feeling that the behavior and sleep trouble is a symptom that would vanish if he was getting the right things. And I want to steer clear of psychotropic medications.
This is a big topic and can be affected by many more genes. It’s probably important to get a physician who REALLY understands the methylation cycle to help. I am homozygous for C677 myself, and I find that TMG and magnesium are crucial, and activated versions of B-vitamins are also helpful, but every individual is different. My son accepted many supplements mixed in with applesauce for many years.
If he is a picky eater as it sounds this may not work, but if there are any raw probiotic foods that can be introduced to his diet this may greatly benefit. It would increase nutrient digestion and help the gut/brain connection at the least.
i personally dislike miso – but like raw sauerkrauts and non-spicy Kimchis, the raw apple cider vinegar with mother works for me, but is pretty harsh, although you may be able to bribe him by putting it into a tea with raw honey – if it isn’t too hot to kill the probiotics. (dang)
Maybe come up with something that you can put up with or hopefully even LIKE and he may go along with you and your special drink… Throw a couple colloidal minerals in there from the Utah humic shale source… i use Liquid Health brand raspberry minerals and it runs less than a dollar/day using the convenient 1 oz squeeze section on the top.
If you can get probiotics into him (raw yogurt, raw kefir are okay too) the epigenetics should help balance out the gene expression for your specific gene. After all, the stem cell geneticist from Stanford (while somewhat wrong) states that 98% of our health is NOT genetic – it is attitude. He leaves out supplementation, probiotics which influence it, etc – but he is heading in the right direction – and his main point in attitude is that it directly affects your pH. Good attitude makes a healthy, pathogen resistant environment and the bad attitude accelerates issues…
Good luck.
Do MMS immediately with him, it will help him to clean this shit out! It is completely safe I have used since 2008.
/What is MMS?
Chlorine dioxide: http://cdautism.org/chlorine-dioxide-vs-chlorine
Thank you so much for sharing your story.
One question your article didn’t directly address: Did you come to believe or suspect that your children’s autism may have been initially caused or triggered by their early vaccinations?
God wrote “The Life of the Flesh is in the Blood”. Is it any wonder then when we pollute the bloodstream of a person with the cocktail of heavy metals, known neurotoxins, living viral matter, egg batter, animal dander and the rest of the sorcerer’s brew, called ‘vaccines’ that sickness and disease cannot but follow? What an untold human tragedy that this horror is perpetrated upon the innocent, the healthy, the infants. I thank God with all my heart that He moved me to research the question of vaccination, while I was pregnant with my only child. Once I understood there was a question about the safety and efficacy of vaccines, I read everything I could get my hands on. The upshot is – I refused ALL vaccines. He’s never had one. Ever. Nikolai just turned 17 years of age, and we marked his 11th year of NO sickness at all. He had his normal baby sicknesses, which we understood in OUR day (the 50’s) were useful to train the immune system. He got over measles in 3 or 4 days, had mumps and eczema, got over those, and finished with chicken pox at age 6 and HASN’T been sick since. Neither has he ever once had an ear infection. We haven’t even had a COLD in his lifetime! Our only medical costs since age 6 have been for school physicals. And YES Nick goes to public school, he’s been in private schools and camps. We use a religious waiver, for we are religiously opposed to the harm done to children with vaccines. Is this just good genes? No. Nick’s only cousin was fully vaccinated. As a result the young lady has severe allergies and gets sick with whatever is going around. And THAT wasn’t genes either, because in our day, there were NO Shots. We all got Polio in a sugar pill and none of my 5 siblings nor I, had allergies. I’ll be 60 this year and I am in perfect health. In my son’s lifetime I’ve been sick twice, with a cold. That’s it. No ailments, no surgeries no issues. But I also refuse all shots and ALL meds. Once I saw the writing on the wall, I never went back. STAND YOUR GROUND PEOPLE! Lives are hanging in the balance. Stop believing what a man or woman says, just because they wear a white coat. Do your OWN research. The dots are not at all difficult to connect. Health is wonderful. It needs to be fought for and preserved. My 5 siblings did not believe me. 4 of them are on public disability for ailments. 3 of my sisters use wheel chairs. I still carry 70 lb buckets of plaster in my work. I can still run up hills, do pushups and play soccer with my kid. Health is wonderful. Don’t EVER give up yours or your kid’s without a fight. I’ll leave the USA before I’ll let them give a vaccine to me or my child. Your health is a gift from God. Guard it with all of your heart! To everyone that has a damaged child, my heart goes out to you. God help you to recover them. I care about you! Else, I’d not even be here writing this! I’d be off playing soccer. I write about our good health and refusal of vaccines on every outlet I can find, with one goal in mind, to give you the courage to just say “NO”. God bless you all.
Thanks – i’d say i was spiritual instead of religious, but you are pretty spot on here.
When the blood flow is lost (sleep wrong on an arm or something) and your body “has no consciousness there” it seems. Can’t control it, no sense of it’s being there – but a sense of lack….
When i describe vaccine ingredients, people seem to be amused by the “calf parts, dog pieces, monkey chunks” part (lol) and get appalled at the aborted fetus cell lines usually called diploid cells in the vax inserts.
Wish I had known all of this a long time ago. My children are older but I pUT off most shots due to their reactions. KnowING what I know now, I would have done none of them. Yet our children think I am pretty nuts since we don’t do flu shots or pneumonia shots or any updates.
Due to our refusals, we were unable to attend our two grandchildren’s births and first three months of life. MMr vaccination for one and whopping cough for another. Told we could seriously harm them. We told our daughter that the mmr vaccination sheds… and we could injure them by taking the vaccination. She did some research and discovered I was correct. Whooping cough may be the same, but I refuse to take it.
Our niece’s grandson was born the day after mine, yet she walked into the hospital and picked him up right away. No one mentioned any vaccinations for her in North Carolina. Here in California, we can’t do that.
Whooping cough (pertussis) vaccine doesn’t shed because it’s not a live-virus vacccine like the MMR (it’s actually to stimulate antibodies against a bacteria and the toxin it produces). However, it DOES make it more likely that you will be carrying a “stealth” infection which could infect your grandchild. The more recent the vaccine, the less likely that an active infection (which is not prevented by the acelluar pertussis vaccine) will go unnoticed by the carrier. At least with people who have not been vaccinated, an active infection will cause an illness which will be a major flag keeping you away from newborn children. Putting a newborn with an unknown immune status in with people recently vaccinated with the MMR is just nuts.
My spouse and I went over to visit my in-laws and did the customary hug & kiss upon arrival. {they are in their early 80’s} and they think it is their duty to take all offered vaccines. During the visit they told us they had received the shingles vax the prior day. Few days later I broke out with shingles on one side of my torso and then found out they had received the live shingle vax. Prior to our visiting them I had been totally home-bound for over two weeks due to an injury and could not have caught the virus elsewhere. We now always inquire what vax’s they may have recently taken BEFORE making a visit.
Awesome testimony about both your own health and that of your son. Thank you so much for sharing. My husband and I feel the same way.
Thank you so much for sharing!
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Your story was not too long and well worth reading. I wouldn’t let anyone bully me after my son was horribly damaged by vaccines at fifteen months. He was originally moderate/severe non-verbal and after years of hard work and interventions, he is high functioning and very verbal. I would never risk him losing the ground he’s gained, but I never rolled my eyes – I just knew as I witnessed what I believe was a stroke in my son after four shots in march of 2001. And NO ONE how much they rolled their eyes or bullied or called me names was ever gong to change what I knew: that vaccines did this to my child. I will never let anyone harm him that way again. I am sorry you had to join our ranks the way you did. But now that you are here, spread your story far and wide!
Were i walking in your shoes i’d try lots of sunshine in season for the D3 and the creation of melatonin for sleep cycles. i’d dump all blue (many of the CFC bulbs are blue) which destroys melatonin production and hampers good sleep patterns.
i’d also concentrate on eliminating vegetable oils – corn, safflower, canola, soy – they are poison and form bad cell walls (all are phospholipids) and replacing the UNCOOKED oils with hemp or flax oil, low heat cooking with olive oil – get a good brand as many are NOT to be trusted – and the big gun for low and high temp cooking, adding to cereals, etc – coconut oil with it’s medium chain triglycerides.
It pretty much repairs synapses and myelin sheathing – has REVERSED Alzheimers, (impossible) MS (impossible) ALS (impossible) and Parkinsons. (impossible) I’d do this just because it is really a good general thing to do, but also on the shot that something in the vaxes has damaged neural activity.
We can only do what we do. Oh – another thing that has done wonderful things is raw fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, miso, kombucha, etc. This restores probiotics which are (source varies) from 70% to 90% of our immune system, and are critical for brain/gut-brain feedback – and this affects so many aspects of our lives it is mind-blowing. Will it hellp pyour situation? Who knows – won’t hurt, could help somewhere else and allow other healings to take place which may cascade into greater health in the future.
Not trying to offend you by comparing my story here to yours but, I wanted to also put this out there for whatever readers may be reading. Don’t hate me but, my first son, partially vaccinated, did not get autism. I still think we are incredibly lucky for that. He’s developmentally normal, even advanced in some areas. However, he not only had severe colic, cried horribly with every tooth, left the boob on his own at 4 weeks, and would habitually go to sleep at 2 AM, but, from the minute he turned 2 years old had HORRIBLE night terrors. The doctors say it is a “immature nervous system response” – and we’re seeing a sleep specialist now at 3 years old because, it never “went away” as we were told it would. These things are terrible, he yells, arches his back, twists his feet, and it’s like full on exorcist. He also has sleep inertia waking up from naps.
I really, really think it had to do with the vaccines we gave him (up until he was 6 months old). After that, magically his colic at least went away, and he started calming down. However, the terrors are still with us (for now), though we try extremely hard to map his sleeping out.
For comparison though, my 2nd son, whom we did not vaccinate, or, I guess circumcise – amazing eater. Stayed on the boob. Calmest baby in the world. Doesn’t even cry when teething. Sleeps undisturbed pretty much 10 hours a night. Rarely, if ever fusses (don’t even want to ginx it).
I know it is inappropriate to compare the night terrors with autism but, you have to understand how hard we’ve tried to bring our son back to normal – organic foods, consistent meals, counseling, taking him out to play, trying to cut out any videos, etc. I count my lucky stars that during the day he is normal but, anyone who has lived with a child that screams for 20 minutes as though you’re killing them every night, with twisted toes, and arched like a cat backwards – it’s hellacious. I don’t believe for a minute it’s natural, or normal.
I’ll never vaccinate my future children, but I also wanted to see if anyone else’s kids have had sleep difficulties like that.
Unfortunately, the outward manifestations of the internal injuries can be myriad, and yes they DEFINITELY include sleep issues. Most of the chronic conditions our children are living with have similar roots in toxic environmental insults upsetting the balance of organisms living in the gut, which is the center of the immune system, which then leaves us open to further toxification through a leaky gut lining and blood/brain barrier. And, of course, the hyperstimulation of the immune system directly affects the brain. An inflamed brain is at the center of many “behavioral” issues, including much of autism. If you follow similar approaches to the ones that people use to treat their children with autism, chances are good you will see improvement. Read Healing the New Childhood Illnesses by Kenneth Bock, and then it may sound crazy but read Outsmarting Autism by Patricia Lemer. Good luck!
Some children who’ve been severely damaged by vaccines have developed narcolepsy. So sleep disorders are definitely within the realm.
Both of my kids had night terrors and neither of them ever received a vaccine. Both were breastfed. They both grew out of the night terrors around four-years-old.
YES. Coincidentally or not, my oldest child (yes he is on the spectrum) woke up every couple of hours UNTIL HE WAS TWO!! (Also coincidentally around when we stopped vaccinating due to reactions we believed were caused by a round of shots (including febrile seizures, eczema, no bowel movement for a week, for starters….)
Have tou considered investigating medical marijuana? It’s worked wonders in many “incurable conditions.
Edward Lieb. New York, NY
Hi a,
My youngest had that screaming, arching, thing for an hour each day. Being the third child, I knew it wasn’t normal. She also had other issues with ear infections and breathing problems. At 18 months we had allergy testing done. She had severe food allergies. After eliminating those foods all her symptoms went away. She is now a healthy 8 year old. She outgrew a few of the allergies but still has a few severe allergies that we have to watch for. I would have allergy testing done if he is arching and screaming like that every night. It’s worth a try.
One can develop food allergies easily through digestive damages. Vaccines frequently cause imbalances in our intestinal flora. Without that flora – we would literally die. It makes up (depending on source) from 70% to 90% of our immune system – AND holds 99% of the genetic diversity, and 90% of the cells inside these bodies. In other words: pretty dang important, lol.
One can develop food allergies by taking NSAIDS. The damage to the gut wall allows partially digested foods to enter the bloodstream unnaturally and in sizes which are NOT healthy for us. The macrophages recognize this wrongness and attack these food particles. At that point – they learn those foods – and you can eat that same food later and then have an allergy – macrophages attacking that food.
Since vaccination causes damage to the intestinal flora – this could EASILY cause food allergies, no?
The question then becomes, how do we repair this damage – because nature (not man) always has a way.
Were i to be in your situation i’d work on raw fermented foods. They must be raw or the probiotics in them are killed off in pasteurization. i personally like the raw sauerkraut varieties from Sonoma Brinery – the Chipotle flavored sauerkraut, and the Garlic and Dill are my favorites – and i hated sauerkraut as a kid. You can get TRILLIONS of little good buggers in a tablespoon of raw fermented foods – that may be more than an entire bottle of expensive, high end supplements.
The foods i know of with raw fermentation are Kim-chi, Sauerkrauts, Kombucha, (Organic to avoid pesticides) Miso (it is a FERMENTED soy product – non fermented soy is not food unless you are a ruminant) and i’m sure there are others out there.
People have had lots of healing with these foods for a variety of issues….Please consider trying them.
My vaccine damaged child had night terrors. In his case, they were undiagnosed seizures. He was also having staring episodes during the day – which looked like daydreaming – that too was seizure activity known as absence seizures. It is quite possible that all night terrors are seizures. Sitting in the peds office one day, I happened to pull a brochure out of her rack all about seizures in children and how many are simply a deficiency in B6. Coincidentally, weeks prior, we began him on an herbal B complex and both types of his seizures stopped – all before seeing this brochure. Be careful with B supplements until you rule out MTHFR defect.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21917556
“In 1998, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, a British gastroenterologist, described a new autism phenotype called the regressive autism-enterocolitis syndrome triggered by environmental factors such as measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccination. The speculative vaccination-autism connection decreased parental confidence in public health vaccination programs and created a public health crisis in England and questions about vaccine safety in North America. After 10 years of controversy and investigation, Dr. Wakefield was found guilty of ethical, medical, and scientific misconduct in the publication of the autism paper. Additional studies showed that the data presented were fraudulent. The alleged autism-vaccine connection is, perhaps, the most damaging medical hoax of the last 100 years.”
Actually the last i’d heard – the other doctors of the study never were fired or even castigated – they just pretty much kept trucking, as it were. Wakefield had to be turned into an example to cause fear for going against the propaganda.
Note that his study actually studied gastroenterology, and an ASSOCIATION which seemed to point to MMR because people WHO DEFINITELY HAD GUT DYSBIOSIS had a rather common MMR background – and it appeared that those people had the dysbiosis commence upon the vaccination.
As for Autism – the CDC study in 2004 showed a 240% INCREASE IN AUTISM for black children 36 months and less in age, in the Atlanta Study. The former head of the CDC told the scientists to cover up that autism link – and then she went on TV and smarmily stated that another study proved that there is no link between vaccines and autism – when the study proved exactly THAT. 240%.
We now have the full original documentation, AND the emails from Dr Gerderbing telling the scientists in the study to commit scientific rape – a much worse issue than the result of Dr Wakefield’s inducing vax caution in your populace.
Furthermore – we have a very confrontational kangaroo court, with drug pusher lawyers fighting against any vaccine damage claims in our nations VICP – vaccine injury compensation program. There has been OVER $3,000,000,000 paid out for PROVEN VACCINE DAMAGES. Among these claims, there are several hundreds in which VACCINES WERE PROVEN TO CAUSE NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGES – and among the hundreds of neurological damages paid awards, there were EIGHTY ONE CASES IN WHICH VACCINES WERE PROVEN TO CAUSE NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGE INCLUDING AUTISM.
So there – proven to the courts 81 times that VACCINES CAUSED AUTISM – so if you want to continue denying the facts – please shut up, sit down, or better yet – just go away. Thanks..
Investigators FOUND 81 cases of autism in the compensated cases, but they only interviewed about 200 of the over 1300 cases. That implies that there were approximately 530 cases that were actually compensated.
One reason why (most) of the other twelve doctors whose names were also on that infamous 1998 paper were not “disciplined” was that they “retracted” the idea that the MMR caused autism. Which was no problem for them as the study never actually SAID that it did. It’s pretty easy to “retract” something you didn’t say in the first place. The so-called “fraudulent” data, however, was analyzed again in John Walker-Smith’s appeal, and the claims were found to be the spurious illogical crap that they actually were. Walker-Smith was reinstated. http://www.ebcala.org/areas-of-law/vaccine-law/co-author-of-lancet-mmr-autism-study-exonerated-on-all-charges-of-professional-misconduct
The whole thing, of course, was an exercise in showing the medical profession that if you go against the dogmatic lies of the “societal vaccine paradigm” you WILL be crucified – even if you are a brilliant, cutting edge doctor who is/was highly respected.
It is not as extreme as their killing all these natural healing doctors in the last year, but it is effective for most of the cowards and the dishonest MDs – which unfortunately seem to be 80% of them. At least that’s what i get when i read about the GSK/$3,000,000,000 fine. When they approached MDs to off-label prescribe their meds (illegal) for compensation (illegal) it turned out that 80% of the MDs chose to do those (illegal) things.
i think one of the most appalling things i see from the larger perspective is how the drug pusher pHARMaceutical (keeping the harm large in medicine) industry and these dishonest MDs are so freaking revered. It doesn’t matter that the drug pushers are fined billions for murdering and intentionally damaging people for THEIR personal profits – the idiots are STILL respected, their products STILL trusted!!!!
It just blows me away – and i think you can relate. Even though you seem much more calm, thorough, and methodical in your responses than i tend to be. i just say to the psychopaths in politics, religion, and medicine – Phukk-U because i have lines drawn for much of this stuff, and sugar-coating (not accusing you of that at all – society) the flaws is just perpetuating a system which has failed and far outlived it’s usefulness.
Yep, I can relate, all right. I find it mind-boggling that the same companies that are fined billions for their illegal and unethical business practices are still expected to be (and often are!) “trusted” with the health of our tiniest and most vulnerable citizens. It’s especially mind-boggling when you consider that parents of newborns often don’t even want their FRIENDS holding their babies. *smh*
I’m a little less outraged over the physicians because that’s a subtler phenomenon. Many are truly convinced that “off-label” uses of certain drugs are necessary and important. If that’s your starting point, then it’s not hard to justify adding another one. Don’t get me wrong, I am NOT saying it’s right (it’s not), but it is a slippery-slope, where-do-you-draw-the-line issue.
Sometimes i don’t see a slippery slope. Like when a bill like our SB277 in California violates the constitution (making it null and void from non-compliance with the HIGHEST LAW OF THE LAND to which all legislation must conform).
Many also describe this and the other pending mandatory vax legislation as being a slippery slope. i’m telling you, we’ve been pushed over the cliff and WILL be damaged – the only question is how long the drop is – i.e. to what extent will we allow this medical slavery of the states practicing medicine without a license? The more drugs/vaccines for the longer time – the longer we will get damaged, the more damages done.
Well, frankly, I am pretty much a hard-liner when it comes to NOT using pharmaceuticals, so I understand how you feel. I’m also appalled at the number of doctors who feel that they should get to make all decisions for their patients, but I try to keep in mind the kind of concrete training that MDs receive in this country. If we’re going to work with them at all, we need to have an appreciation for where they are coming from, and that is a firm belief in the value of prescription drugs to do just about anything because they are literally not taught how to create actual wellness. For those that are interested, they must literally teach themselves in a whole new post-degree training.
And I am utterly and thoroughly disgusted with the situation in California. The law IS unconstitutional, and I await the day that it is ruled to be so. I think we should be doing what we can to take over the legislative discussion by pushing OUR agenda at every possible opportunity. Vaccine choice is the only thing that respects our citizens right to bodily integrity, informed consent (which, of course, carries with it the implicit idea that NOT consenting is perfectly acceptable), and religious freedom.
You make a good point about the education that those in medical professions acquire. There is a scripted standard that is expected to be followed. And sadly, when a doctor (or nurse, even) strays from that standard by taking the initiative to learn MORE than they were allowed to learn in medical school, they are ostracized and considered frauds for FURTHERING their knowledge in order to better help their patients. To me, that means more and proves that they are in it for the right reasons…not just money or status. I personally know a GREAT family practitioner who specializes in toxicology and some of the more naturopathic treatments. His offices are kept up, but in no way cutting-edge and he still wears clothes from the 70’s and 80’s and has tape in several places on his glasses. He is not in it for the money…it’s pretty obvious. He charges little for his office visit, and doesn’t accept insurance (though you can claim directly once the bill is sent) for tests to keep costs down. When he advises on treatments, he gives you the option of pharmaceuticals (he keeps up with that information), or more natural diet and supplement-based treatments (which he gains NO income for promoting)…and then he sits back to let you decide without any prodding from him, although he will answer any questions about either option. Yet somehow, his style of doctoring is ostracized and labeled as quackery, and he has probably done more studying and self-motivated research than the majority of allopathic doctors. THAT is what a REAL doctor should be. He cares about the patient, and NOT his bank account.
Yes, that’s EXACTLY how it works. And I completely agree that I would much rather have the doctor that researches and learns MORE than is required in an effort to help get people truly healthy than one that spouts the party line of “medical standards.” Remember Semmelweiss was laughed at by his learned colleagues who thought washing their hands before touching a laboring mother’s body was a ludicrous idea. Whose patients survived? Not the laughers’ . . .
Yes, MDs are programmed. i’ve heard some state that when they are dead tired during internship they have their most intense “chiropractic is a scam” and “health food is nuts” and “natural healing is quackery” programming. In that state of fatigue, by a trusted MD who is giving them their future, they cannot refute (lack of training and energy coupled with respect) and come to accept those stupid paradigms.
MOST of what i’ve looked at in terms of allopathic “standards of care” is generally doing the wrong thing – sometimes the diametrically opposed action to what is called for as in stomach acidity issues – and it’s not inconsequential. In the case of GERDS and heartburn for example, they literally do the WRONG pH thing 99.9999% of the time! Then you get into gall bladder surgeries, mammograms, chemo, statins….does the list of their assaults ever end????
Emergency and Critical care – SOME of that is good, but then run your azz off and get away.
Like yourself i’d be considered a pretty hard liner when it comes to drugs. 2 aspirin and 2 motrin since ’75. Aspirin i tried after the army and would rather hurt. Motrin was when a girl killed herself running into me at 50MPH after 87 feet of locked brake skid marks, and the ghost brakes long before that – was doing about 105mph around a 45 mph corner and lost it. Cracked ribs, sternum, punctured lung, whiplash, etc…
MD took X-rays and sent me home at 2am. When someone came in that could READ the damb things they panicked, lol. Phone rings: “Is Brad there? (affirmative from wife – in panicked voice) “HE HAS A PUNCTURED LUNG – GET HIM BACK HERE BEFORE HE DIES!!!” So we get the horse needle to suck air out from around the lung and he gives me some Motrin for “the worst pain a person can have”. Nope, not even close to the worst pain – but i take two and decide i’d MUCH rather hurt. Can’t recall exactly why, but it seemed really important to NOT take those meds/drugs/poisons.
That’s horrible. I’m so sorry. You’re even more of a hard-liner than I am. I do take ibuprofen for headaches from time to time and I have an inhaler that I use (very) occasionally for asthma. My inhalers are usually out of date before they finish. 😉
It’s funny, but sometimes people come here and say “What about all the over-the-counter drugs? Huh? Bet you guys use them like crazy!” as if we’re waving our right hands and saying “no vaccines!” while guzzling Tylenol and Nyquil with our left hands. It doesn’t even occur to them that most of us severely restrict our use of ANY drugs, OTC or prescription.
Yes – are they programmed to think that we ALL MUST take drugs or are they just stupid????
i have been “assured” by a physician i bumped into that i have asthsma – and when i was in the mountains of SW Colo i developed sleep apnea. Disturbing, lol.
For about a year here i’d get so short of breath i’d have to squat so i wouldn’t fall over and hurt anything – a couple times actually sitting or laying on the ground. Then i started doing the Buteyko breathing – always through the nose – and it’s been GREAT.
i can get dizzy if i over do my caffeine sensitivity – figured THAT out the hard way – but the breathing is SO much better now i can’t believe it’s the same body. The really counterintuitive thing was to force myself to NOT GULP IN AIR when i felt like i really needed to!!! That is HARD! What i actually did do, was to exhale, and HOLD the lungs closed for as long as i could until it really bugged me – then inhale THROUGH THE NOSE (so you get that nitrous oxide from the nasal passages) and exhale again – through the nose so that you can sense your CO2 levels. THIS sets your metabolism to large degree! So a couple breaths DEPRIVING MYSELF OF OXYGEN WHEN I FELT I NEEDED IT OR I’D DIE was what helps. Now i can even jog a little bit on the ranch, can throw hay bales without having to lean against one every other bale……
Hi Brad. Well said and very informative! Thank for sharing.
You’re welcome. With all the VAXXED hoopla – GREAT publicity – the Wakefield crucifixion is becoming more commonly known.
And yes, his study was NOT about MMR causing autism so that whole attack is a flat-out lie.
i’ve come up with my own stupid term for the pro-vax crowd – it’s less accurate that VAXASSINATION Theology – where faith (not evidence based) based beliefs support the program in it’s false assumptions regarding safety and effectiveness.
i now call them “Jabbers” those pushing the needle jabs. Has the bonus of making their talk sound like jabbering – oral flatulence of a sort…..
Thank you for sharing. I’ve read countless articles, done hours of research, and have determined to not vaccinate my children. I would love to explore any source you recommend from your post. Thanks so much!
Thanks – my problem is that my video card just died in my laptop. That means my (more than) 300 articles and links ARE INACCESSIBLE along with my permaculture videos, my farming PDFs, my poetry, my…… blah blah blah. *sigh*
If you get a chance to see Vaxxed of course – go for it. i think Waking Times just had an article about how the other MDs on the study that got Wakefield hammered were still practicing, and Green Med Info is always interesting – sometimes linking Wakefield stories i think. Certainly good biochemical info most of the time…
For some of it, the VICP (vaccine information…. not the national awards program – you’ll get both in a link. i’d be more specific, but this ‘puter is so dang old i think it works by draft horse power, and i don’t yet have the multiple tab thing figured out on this thing. Screen settings or whatever – but it’s an old XP…..
Touch back in a couple days and i may have something figured out, and i have my sons who might be able to hook up my laptop to use as a hard-drive. That would be COOL because otherwise i’d likely have to replace the motherboard. This ‘puter could never hold beyond a small fraction of what the laptop has on it.
That’s NVIC, National Vaccine Information Center, not VICP, Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.
Thank you for bringing sense to Karenm’s silly post and supporting Dr Wakefield who has been much maligned and had his credibility and life as a doctor almost obliterated. 81 that have been accepted and paid out on and untold numbers gone without help. The fact that the Govt pays and not the vaccine producers (who MAY be fined a pittance) is abhorrent and tells an ugly truth no one wants to hear about the total corruption and the swinging door policy between BigPharma, FDA, CDC & the Government etc.
Can you say dishonesty? A person (Catherine Frompovich) sent an FOIA request to the GAO (Govt Accounting Office) regarding the status of the account holding the “tax” on vaccines. When you figure the amount of vaccines sold and calculate the amount that should be deposited since 1986 – thirty years now – they should have over 20 BILLION $$$ in that account, even after paying out that 3+ Billion$$$ to vaccine damage “awards”. (look what we won, Mommy!)
The GAO couldn’t find it at all – and the guy who was helpful was told to not give her anymore information….
Okay, I`m finally going to post that which I`ve been meaning to post, here, for some time now, because we debate autism, and ADHD, and we examine how big pharma` are profiteering to the tune of billions of dollars from poisoning the blood of children. I`ve posted evidence from niv.org who stated how big pharma can no longer be prosecuted, since Merck, Wyeth and Lederle, blackmailed congress, after `it was found that [their] DPT shot was causing brain inflammation and death in many children….` I have provided evidence – I think I posted it on this blog, anyway – regards the criminal conflict of interest by Australia`s Prime Minister owning shares in Merck, and whose wife is the Chair of PrimaBiomed, in Sydney. What I have, however, to post here, this fine eve, invites all and sundry to consider just how deep this rabbit hole may go. Could any of what follows, “possibly” be true?
Author, lecturer, and neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock, warned: “the Baxter [or, what is better known as “swine flu’] vaccine, called Celvapan, has had fast track approval. It uses a new verocell technology, which utilizes cultured cells from the African green monkey. This same animal tissue transmits a number of vaccine-contaminating viruses, including the HIV virus” (Marrs 2010: 185).
Is it a completely outrageous and impossible summation to consider that this may have been deliberate? Was HIV/AIDS manufactured in top secret American laboratories by Nazi scientists whisked off to America, immediately following the war – under Project Paperclip – in order that the “Fourth” Reich would now begin – still the Brotherhood – and continue the eugenics program under a different name, hiding behind a different mask?
“… So, I asked him, [anonymous] Is this true? – And I have this on tape, too – He said: Yes. In order to protect the environment we need to reduce the world’s population to TWO billion. And war just doesn’t do it, so we’re gonna try to use disease and starvation” (Fulford: 2008).
… I need to tell you that the situation on Earth is worse than 99.999% of the population understands. I have people call me from all over the world. I have received thousands of emails and have talked to hundreds of people, and you won`t like hearing what I`ve learned. You might even think I`m crazy, but I`ve got to say it because I couldn`t live with myself if I didn`t. I`d really rather not mention it, as there are enough people who think I`m nuts already, but I`ve got to if only to get some people thinking. It`s this: Our leaders are trying to kill us (Humble 2006: 126).
If interested in my full blog post, on this: http://www.transformtofreedom.com/anti-vaccine-movement/
Thank you for your great post. I have followed this for many years and went back to the History as you did. This included Rockefeller and setting up the Universities for Western Medical (Allopathy) and how they got rid of Natural medicine and almost got rid of Chiropratic and anything else that would help people as opposed to drugs, radio and surgery only medicine. I also followed Project Paperclip etc GMO’s are another way of getting rid of people not ‘feeding the world’. GREED and power and dominance is their mantra. Keep being informed and informing others. I also upset a lot of family, friends and people but I see it as a duty to protect our children. People have an absolute belief in doctors and the medical profession to their own destruction but slowly the world is changing and starting to listen as the numbers of deaths and injuries and sickness racks up from vaccinations etc. Good Luck to you.
The idiocy of the self-annointed “elite” crowd is here if one peeks behind the curtains a touch and actually looks at “OZ”.
EVERY problem on this planet which can be rectified by humanity is CAUSED BY RICH PEOPLE WITH CONTROLLING CORPORATE SHARES MAKING CONSCIOUS DECISIONS ON HOW TO RUN THAT COMPANY.
Break it down – ALL the world-wide significant ecological issues are CAUSED DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY BY THESE WEALTHY PEOPLE – and NOT by we the people. Do YOU own Fuk-u-shi-ma and poison the entire ocean? No – we couldn’t even eat crabs in California this year because THEY ARE TOO RADIOACTIVE! Do you own a refinery that makes plastics? No? then you didn’t put the 5,000,000 square miles of plastic in (just) the Pacific Ocean where an area the size of the US is decreasing photosynthesis by 35%.
If you aren’t making the 2,000,000 tons of poisons applied to (just) the USA this year – then YOU aren’t responsible for portions of the 270,000+ square miles of ocean that are killed every AG CHEM run-off season.
EVERY system on this planet keeping people alive – is dying. At an accelerated rate, with increasing damage levels – and the cause is always rich people in corporate boardrooms squeezing another nickel out of “the system” (us) to put in their personal psychopathic pockets.
You could get beyond every ecological problem (all caused by the parasitic class) and into the poverty, hunger/starvation, most illness, stress/violence/war, and many of the deaths – and attribute virtually all of these problems to those same rich.
Conclusion: Since Harvard figured that with COOPERATION the planet could support 40 Billion people – we obviously would do MUCH BETTER for our planet’s survival to eliminate the richest 10% of “humanity” and start making SANE decisions regarding what we do and how we do it.
The wealthy people running this world today – from the Trillionaires like the Rothschilds, the Pope, the Royals of England and on down to the CEOs who do what they are told – all of them are essentially INFANTILE and insane.
Their operating principle is moremoremoremoremore, mineminemineminemine, and gimmegimmegimmegimme.
There are numerous studies before and after Wakefield that show vaccines cause autism….
Tell that to the parents who have virtually seen their child change overnight from a normal child to a brain damaged child after vaxx. AND you quote a source that is backed by the same system that gives the vaxx. Do you really think they want ANY proof they injure children?
Tracy – your comment sounds like you object to the Wakefield article – when it supports the vax/autism association. He was crucified, lost his license, was blacklisted, and his study is STILL misquoted as “proof that vaccines don’t cause autism” because people are TOLD that his study showed vaccines to be causative of autism.
In science – to say vaccines CAUSE autism has a specific definition. That would mean that if you get a vaccine that causes autism YOU WILL GET AUTISM – and since this does not happen 100% of the time, the vax is not technically CAUSATIVE.
This does not preclude a strong association – which Wakefield’s study showed – as a renowned gastroenterologist. He did a good job, his study was lied about – as was the CDC 2004 study in Atlanta.
The quoted Wakefield article actually supports your knowledge regarding autism, but provides ONE loop involved. There are other means of becoming autistic. Not every vax causes autism all the time. So much dependent upon YOUR personal biochemistry and health….
Actually, that’s not what causation means. It doesn’t mean that it causes it 100% of the time. It means that the condition is so much more common WITH the toxic exposure than it is in people WITHOUT it that it is likely that the exposure is causing the condition. We frequently hear “correlation doesn’t equal causation,” but what many people miss is that correlation can indeed IMPLY causation and is a necessary condition to show causation. In fact, it is the only way that it was PROVEN that “cigarette smoking causes lung cancer.” And surely you realize that it doesn’t cause lung cancer 100% (or even close) of the time. My own mother was a chain smoker much of her adult life who died at 91 with not a trace of lung cancer. While my father never smoked a day in his life, and what is on his death certificate? Lung cancer. Outliers exist for every condition, that’s why you need a very large sample size to show causation. In a court of law, a relative risk of 2, meaning that something is twice as common in the exposed population than the unexposed is enough to assume causation.
Wakefield’s study didn’t make any claims about vaccines and autism other than suggesting that because there was a temporal association between the MMR and onset of gastrointestinal and neurological symptoms, and the fact that vaccine-strain measles virus was isolated in the bowels of the sick children, that those facts might be related.
Thanks Prof – been enjoying your erudition here, and value your points.
It was explained to me via some medical Phd type that the causation had to be not just conclusive, but pretty overwhelming to be “causative”. They were in a different branch of the sciences so perhaps this is the difference. Hard to believe the term would be very loose at all in medicine.
As for “correlation is not causation” argument – i like to have people bounce that one at me. For example, there is a study out of i think Washington which links GMO consumption to the rise of 22 different illnesses, with a pretty incredible parallel going on. The GMOrons always scream that correlation is not causation line – and then you picture them walking off and high-fiving each other like they just slam dunked THAT information.
Then i come back with how they want to pretend that GMOs are safe, and yet there is this incredibly strong relationship btwn disease and GMO consumption. They tell the their correlation line and ACTUALLY SEEM TO THINK THAT THEY JUST PROVED GMOs ARE SAFE when the DATA and the correlation show that they’d damb well better check out their assertions, because all evidence points to major issues inolving GMOs.
In the same way we can transfer this argument when you mention that MD whose 40 yr practice in which he does not work with vaccinated children has shown ZERO cases of autism. The correlation is not causation argument pops out sometimes, but it is so devastating to them to point that the causation may not be proven, but it strongly indicates that vaccines are NOT responsible for at least some, if not most, of the autism.
As for Wakefield – he is the sacrificial goat – totally botched medical attack full of lies and distortions. He HAD TO BE DESTROYED because he was credible, proved an association via a cascade of bichemical/probiotic actions – but it was not direct. The variation in intestinal health could be a major player involved in determining who does and does not have susceptibility to developing autism…….
i’m with you, man. i got a T-shirt company to print up 3 shirts. The front says “Fight Mandatory Vaccination” and the back says “It is Unintelligent and Unlawful”. i have a lot of people give me thumbs – ups, tell me thanks, etc. out here in Calif – the land of medical dictatorship.
That California medical dictatorship thing is relatively new. Until SB277, most of you had it so good that (general) you weren’t militant at all. I think this push is going to backfire in a MAJOR way. When Californians go from not being forced to do any of it (and still mostly vaccinating) to be told they MUST do it, it changes the mentality significantly and they will become the most vocal speakers in the “take back your health” movement.
Notice how I said “in a court of law.” Scientists don’t consider a relative risk of 2 to be “proof” in and of itself. They REALLY would like a double-blind placebo controlled trial, but of course DELIBERATELY inducing disease in a population is unethical. So no, no one has ever deliberately induced lung cancer in a human in a placebo-controlled trial (besides which, how do you blind the tobacco effectively?). One of the criteria they use is the Bradford-Hill criteria. The “correlation” we’re talking about with vaccines is an example of Number 4, the “dose-response relationship,” which is mentioned SPECIFICALLY in the Simpsonwood Transcripts about Thimerosal in vachttp://www.drabruzzi.com/hills_criteria_of_causation.htmcines.
About 3 yrs ago i realized that the mandatory vacinaton was going to become the SWAT assault to break down the doors of our freedom and turn us into medical slaves.
Personally, i have legitimate objections to the state practicing medicine without a license. Don’t know anyone else who is pointing that out.
Secondly – the SB277 is legally invalid – but they have a really big stick. The law is unconstitutional since it destroys religious freedom. If you “have freedom” as long as you shut up and meditate, or if you behave yourself in church – but the instant you use your spiritual convictions to regulate and control your own body and find that your freedoms are raped and bloody on the side of the road – YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM.
Since the Constitution is the highest law of the land – and all laws must comply with the constitution – this law is invalid, null and void. In the words of those who WROTE the constitution – this law is “imaginary” and “pretended” and they instruct us to NOT OBEY it.
Good enough for me. i find it preposterous that the first amendment starts out saying: “Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion, nor the free practice thereof….” and we fight and die to KEEP that freedom – but only did so in order to let drug pushers convince a morally bankrupt legislature to steal those freedoms for their profits a couple centuries down the line.
Oh, I think it IS unconstitutional, but there has to be a suit that makes it to the Supreme Court to get rid of it that way. Constitutional challenges are expensive.
i believe this calls for civil disobedience in actuality. Our legal system is totally over-run and controlled by the uber wealthy parasitic class so other actions MUST be taken in the immediate short term. Actions which will bring out the stick, no doubt.
Pretending for a minute that California is in the United Stated of America – the highest law of the land is the Constitution. All laws must comply to that – or be invalid, null, and void. The founding fathers instruct us to NOT OBEY these laws – and SB277 certainly qualifies in this regard.
Furthermore, in the USA, the constitution MANDATES that any person who is going to have their property taken by the govt (which would extend to their children) MUST BE GIVEN A JURY TRIAL BY THEIR PEERS although they CAN (if stupid) allow a judicial hearing. This is NOT something which a class action suit can satisfy – you don’t vax your kids – YOU get a trial, the guy across town doesn’t vax – THEY get a trial and this must be done prior to removal of the children. (This would happen if our courts weren’t totally crooked, of course)
Secondly, for any legal resident of this country to have their freedom removed by the state (any govt) the person is CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED A TIMELY JURY TRIAL OF THEIR PEERS. Again – same situation – you lose your religious freedom in pretense you have no right to make spiritual decisions – you get a trial BEFORE that freedom is removed.
The original 13th amend to the constitution stated that no lawyers could hold office. No judges or DAs (or any political office holder, etc) can EVER be exempt from the laws we must abide by. Congress? they can’t do the insider trading they do and must use Obamacare or give we the people THEIR healthcare benefits…. Judges and DAs are not allowed immunity from prosecution for invalidating people’s rights, etc.
All judges are members of the BAR – British Accredited Registry – which literally makes them agents of a foreign power working for the Queen. This is why they were forbidden the offices in the original 13th amendment.
We live in a quagmire – and as long as we peacefully play by their rules we are phukt. They will just change the rule when we win. They will tighten the screw a little more elsewhere, come back later and tighten the one resisted as they create another diversion elsewhere, some panic, some fear, some boogeyman.
We have to stop playing by their rules. Basic strategy (speaking as a martial artist here) is that we have to viciously and immediately undermine support for the parasitic maggotry by pointing out any and everywhere how evil, negative, self-serving and destructive their behaviors are.
i mean – the sad fact is that EVERY problem of significance upon this planet which has the possibility of human rectification to some degree – is CAUSED BY RICH PEOPLE RUNNING CORPORATIONS. And i do mean EVERY ONE. They want to reduce planetary population because of the ecological damage of “overpopulation” when the actual ecological damages are ALL caused by the wealthy 5% who own CONTROLLING SHARES in corporations (and direct what is done and how they do it) who CONSCIOUSLY decide to cause ecological destruction for that next nickel – regardless of the consequences to other people, life, or the environment.
The result of a corporate-run world is visible right here, right now: EVERY system on this planet that makes life possible is dying. At an accelerating rate, in a logarithmically progressivie level of destruction. And it is ALL caused by the RICH people running corporations.
Unless you have a nuke or coal power plant, a small refinery making plastics to add to the gyres, are bootlegging glyphosate etc – these are ALL done by corporations. If you want to pretend that Anthropogenic Global Warming is real – the corporations make the CO2. On every level the ecological problems are caused by the rich.
SO RAPE THEIR REPUTATIONS!!!! Strategically – this takes away the power of their attacks and forces them to expend energy, money, time, etc responding to “spin” things in their defense. This is why Campbells Soups and now Kelloggs are labeling GMOs. So this can work.
However, the next step is to destroy the wealth control of the Rothschild/Rockefeller/corporate CEO types and gut their insane income levels AND cut that influence from their political whores – the republicans AND democrats who pass legislation for their benefit – and against our needs and wants.
Dr Andrew wakefiels is now completely vindicated and other CDC Dr’s nd Merck scientists are coming forward with the truth about how they were made to skew Data.
Dr. Wakefield has since been vindicated and proven correct. I had a phone conference with a rep from Merck, who after some prodding admitted she would never and has never vaccinated her children because of his testimony. When she uncovered the medical testing results from her company she knew he was telling the truth. The president of Merck admitted in an 2008 interview that even the mmr vaccine was worthless and autism is directly related to vaccines.
Vaccines do NOT cause autism. Vaccines are very very safe. To continue ? I do not know what to call your story. I know you meant in well meaning, so I cannot say it is propaganda. But vaccines do not cause autism. And to keep perpetuating that myth is very harmful, to kids and to the general population. You have to do research on both sides of the issue. To me there are not two sides, but you get my drift. You can of course take the risk your child will never catch a communicable disease and if he does, hope that he will have a strong enough immune system to fight it off. Why take that risk when we are talking polio, whooping cough, hepatitis. Why. I think this generation has never seen these diseases and so have lost all caution when it comes to protecting our kids. Not vaccinating your children may be your way of protecting them, but you are doing the opposite.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/02/150206-measles-vaccine-disney-outbreak-polio-health-science-infocus/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/05/anti-vaccine-arguments-analyzed-explained_n_6607026.html
http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/initiative/detection/immunization_misconceptions/en/
Well, Karen, clearly you have the last word. All of the parents who have read and commented on this post and hundreds of others will just ignore everything they have seen, everything they have read, and everything their gut tells them about their own children’s health, and they’ll line them right up because YOU say “vaccines don’t cause autism.”
This comment made my day.
You poor deluded fanatic who has not done their research. I feel sorry dear. Go get all the vaccinations available to you with my blessings.
Karenm,
Yes, vaccines DO cause autism. And people like yourself refuse to believe parents like me. Many of us have seen our children get autism right after a set of vaccines. We had to take our daughter to the hospital a few hours after receiving 4 vaccines. We spent 2 days in the hospital because she couldn’t breathe. When we finally came out she couldn’t do anything she could do before. And there you go: a completely healthy baby suddenly was autistic. So, trust me: VACCINES ABSOLUTELY CAUSE AUTISM. And it doesn’t matter what paid magazines say. It doesn’t matter what paid CDC says. It doesn’t matter what dr. prOfit says. For them it is all about money. For us, parents, it is all about our children and all the other children that will get autism if we don’t spread the word. So, believe us. We don’t gain anything for spreading the truth. We do it to help other parents avoid what we are going through. And it is not for the faint of heart.
Oh, but that’s “coincidence.” “Correlation doesn’t equal causation.” Just because your daughter became autistic immediately after reacting to four vaccines doesn’t mean that the vaccines had anything to do with the sudden onset of her illness, despite the fact that more than 500 similar cases have already been compensated by the VICP.
Your daughter was always autistic; you just “didn’t notice.”
Either that or “that’s just when autism manifests.” Suddenly. Over the course of a few days.
And it’s the same for all these people too: http://hearthiswell.org/
/end sarcasm
Sorry Karenm you are wrong.
Haven’t you heard about Dr Thompson – he was IN CHARGE of the study to verify/disprove Dr Wakefields association btwn autism and the MMR vax.
They did their 2004 study on black infants 36 months and younger in Atlanta, and found a 240% INCREASE IN AUTISM among those black infants. They were ordered to hide that information, and did so. Dr Thompson is a whistleblower who has given thousands of pages of the original, unaltered study AND the emails from the former head of the CDC telling them to LIE about the autism evidence in their study.
So that’s one hole in your theory.
The Vaccine Injury Compensation is very adversarial against paying out for vaccine caused damages, and has paid out over 3 BILLION dollars in damage awards despite making that extremely difficult. Among those damages – there are HUNDREDS for neurological damages, and among the hundreds of awards for neurological damage there is a further subset of EIGHTY ONE AWARDS FOR PROVEN VACCINE INDUCED INJURIES CAUSING NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGE WHICH INCLUDES AUTISM.
So there you have it – autism – proven to be caused by vaccines in some cases.
Please – on this subject – please sit down and be silent.
As for people not taking their MMR shots or whatever – did i miss the blizzard of pathogenic epidemics that came through and decimated the population NOT getting vaccinated? Somewhere? Anywhere? Hmmm – no i didn’t think so, because people that are NOT vaccinated are almost always (not always, but usually) healthier than vaccinated people.
Not sure if you read my reply before, but look up the CDC whistleblower Dr Wm Thompson. He has provided Congress with EVIDENCE that the CDC lied about a study in 2004, where black children in Atlanta under 36 months age HAD INCREASED AUTISM RATES OF (some say) 340%!!!
He has provided the actual emails from the (then) head of the CDC in which she told the scientists to bury those facts – and they did it stupidly and clumsily. Do you know their rationalization? ALL those suspected (above norm rate) autistic children? They had BIRTH CERTIFICATES that were “not trusted” to be accurate. So – there WAS an increase in autism, but the LEGAL PAPERWORK STOPS IT FROM BEING REAL??????
Get real, CDC – that is such bullshyte! In fact if the “doubted” birth certificates were for OLDER children it shows increased dangers in the MMR shot – DUH! If it was legal paperwork for the younger set – then DON’T GIVE THEM MMR SHOTS – DUH!!!! Not rocket science here – not any science at all, really.
Then you have to look at the SETTLED awards for PROVEN VACCINE DAMAGES – and in among the hundreds of cases in which VACCINES WERE PROVEN TO CAUSE NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGES there were settlements for EIGHTY ONE CASES IN WHICH THE VAX DAMAGES INCLUDED AUTISM.
That is RIGHT THERE and it was PROVEN IN COURT – so don’t give us any bullshit about no vaccines causing autism – IT CAN – and you don’t know when, to whom, or why, do you? AND nobody is bothering with a test to figure it out, are they? Nope – shoot ’em up, and let ’em drop.
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/30-scientific-studies-showing-the-link-between-vaccines-and-autism/
Ladies & gentleman:
Your Eminence: “Karenm” has spoken: “VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM”
All of you parents reporting otherwise, please “vaccinate your kids” because basically, your reports “are not true” Karenm has spoken. Remain silent.
She has thrown in this thread various links that she picked online and “her source” MUST be right. Her pediatrician “must be right” too.
Even though she could care less about what the author of this post wrote, along with YOUR personal histories (included mine) Karenm, did not even bother to read. She has spoken, therefore, she must be right.
Lor – you should be glad to know that i have formed a religious group which gets together on Thursday nights (until Karenm tells us when is officially sacred) and we worship her and her boundless wisdom through meditation (will probably have to change that to drugs when she gets back to us) and gather massive amounts of money to send to her.
Also realize that Vaccinations are full of aluminum which crosses the blood brain barrier and mercury both of these are deadly for the child’s developing brain. Some children have bodies that cannot take these and it is not good even for the ones who can. Vaccinations should be taken singly. The group vaccinations have huge amounts of Aluminum and should be avoided. I am for immunization not vaccination because of the adjuvents that are so toxic. Go to the CDC site and read what they put in them. The vaccinations do not activate the T cells but the temporary cells in the blood so they do not give life immunity? The immunizations activate the t cells that have permanent memory and give full protection because they act as if the body has had to fight the infection. If vaccinations were perfect there would not be such a large slush fund that we pay for . . to pay out for vaccination injury in the U.S.
Dear Professor TMR
I have just given my 4 year old his preschool boosters 3 weeks ago. Up until recentlyI have not been worried about vaccine damage. However recently for some reason I have started reading and am horrified. My son is fully vaccinated since he was born. What I am not understanding now is why he is not neurologically compromised. He was a bit angry for a while after the latest vaccines but now he is his happy self and nothing else to report… It sounds as though all the vaccinated will be damaged but are there some who are genetically y fortunate and get away with it do you think?
Just like anything else, not all children have the same susceptibilities or exposures in the rest of their environment. While it will take a single vaccine dose to permanently disrupt some children’s neurological systems, for others it would take much more. Also, the damage that is done often takes a while to show up. Among the most common long-term sequelae are autoimmune conditions, and they frequently take years to develop or become apparent. I sincerely hope that your children are — and stay — completely healthy. And welcome!
Thank you for your prompt reply and for extending a welcome. I do hope also that they stay well! I am not vaccinated but have food and dust allergies… I had hooping cough as a five year old and obviously lived to tell the tale. The other children are older now but also fully vaccinated. We have lived in a lot of developing countries where the doctors were desperate for vaccines because the indigenous communities had children dying from diseases they could vaccinate against had they been in Europe or the States or similar…that is why we didnt hesitate to vaccinate and the other children thankfully don’t seem to be showing any problems from the vaccines. I wonder too whether people from developing countries can manage diseases that are life threatening to the people in the developing world. For example Dengue is a terrible thing for those populations but foreigners seemed to recover easily and none of us or our children who caught it died thankfully! Many indigenous people have died from it. Also my grandmother contracted Spanish flu in 1918 and lived to have children naturally in to her 50s finally dying at 106 through refusal to eat. Then her son, my father contracted TB and double pluracy but has also survived into old age. I doubt either of them were heavily vaccinated either, so all these factors make for an interesting study indeed! Meanwhile I am gutted about the tragic deaths of these poor babies and toddlers who got jabs. It really is horrifying.
Absolutely! The risk to benefit ratio of any vaccine is dependent upon the environment you are living in, as the real risk of contracting the illness is significantly different from country to country and the risks faced by undernourished children when encountering disease is significantly higher than the risk for those in developed nations. However, undernourished children also face increased risk of damage from the vaccines as well, so there’s that to consider as well. I think even in undeveloped countries it would be better for the health of the children to minimize vaccination to only those diseases that pose a significant risk, like when an epidemic is raging.
You are wrong. Vaccines do not survive a cost-benefit analysis. You need to study more instead of offering apologisms.
Hi “Truthful,” if you check out the list of blogs under the nickname Professor on this site, you will find that I hold what are generally considered “extreme” views about vaccination. I think they all do damage, and it will probably be a cold day in hell before I consider ever injecting anyone in my immediate family. However, my circumstances are not universal circumstances. If one is in imminent danger of death because there is a true epidemic of a very deadly disease, who am I (or you) to say that immune system damage is not a worthwhile tradeoff in order to avoid the disease? It’s all very easy to say “No one should vaccinate, EVER!” from the comfort of a developed country where deadly diseases do not proliferate, but it’s another story if three-quarters of your village is wiped out in an epidemic. No one has the right to decide for me or my children, and I don’t have the right to decide for anyone else.
And, thanks, but I’ve studied quite a bit and offer no “apologisms,” whatever they are. 😉
If vaccines were really scrutinize at a cost versus benefit angle then why are their makers exempt from liability? Oh wait they have done a cost versus benefit scrutiny. ..and any cost is absorbed by the taxpayers/parents and the injured themselves….soooo no cost to the vaccine makers just pure benefit ie: profit.
I don’t believe that anyone here is making the case that any cost/benefit analysis done by a vaccine manufacturer would be even remotely reflective of the true costs and benefits to any specific individual. That calculation is up to the particular individual and their parents if the individual is a child.
Disregard my misread/misunderstanding of truth tacos comment 😆
Well said. I too am not an anti-vaxxer or pro vaccines. Too date I have chosen not to vaccinate my daughter bc until this issue gets straightened out I don’t feel comfortable over vaccinating my child just bc the government tells me too. There are children being affected not only by autism but also other debilitating illnesses after being vaccinated. So we should ignore the evidence bc a study showed no side effects? Who can we trust? Something is terribly going wrong and it’s time the healthcare professionals, CDC and US Government start answering these questions and be more concerned about quality of life then money. I have my own mind. I won’t follow you off a bridge bc you tell me to jump. We cannot ignore what is happening to some children just bc a doctor said you can’t get autism from a vaccine. May be our body’s are prone to diseases and the ingredients in the vaccines bring these things to out? Why does the US vaccinate more than any other country? How is it okay to give a newborn 7 shots at once? What is in these vaccinations? It’s scary and disgusting. I never would have thought I would decline vaccinations for my child. Why can’t we sue if something happens? Governmental immunity, really? Seems like they cover themselves from any responsibility/liability. I am sorry but you cannot tell me that evidence isn’t presenting that vaccines are causing problems. If you say for 100% that they don’t then you are clueless and obviously ignoring all the evidence. We can’t say for certain but we can’t say it isn’t happening either. The evidence is in your story and so many others that I have read. It is clear that something isn’t right when it comes to the additives in vaccines. I hope it gets researched and the truth comes out.
Ann, I agree entirely, but would also like to add that a main issue I have is that no doctor or parent knows for sure that kids are BORN with all these chronic illnesses (autism included)…they can’t. When babies are exposed to vaccines in-utero, on the first day of life, and multiple shots every few months for the first two years there is no definitive evidence that the baby would have those chronic illnesses if they hadn’t been vaccinated. People don’t know the true, natural health of their children…ever. They don’t know what is truly NORMAL for those kids. The only way to know is to wait and get to know your children’s specific health identity WITHOUT medications (at all, if possible)…especially within the first two years. IF I had to get my kids vaccinated now, I would at least have concrete experience as to what their personal health is. I would KNOW, for sure, if and what kind of reactions they have…because I know their health without vaccines…and my unvaccinated daughter handles most colds, flus, etc better than my minimally vaccinated son (3 shots by 4 months, then I quit)…though both are very healthy compared to their peers.
But it is impossible to know the true health of children unless we wait to vaccinate them…or decline completely…so we can at least know what is NORMAL health for our children…not what is NORMAL for the vaccinated majority (which is proving that chronic illness is becoming the norm). Makes me wonder if doctors continue to push vaccines so strongly, so young, so that the more “minor” adverse reactions are less noticeable. That would be terrible, and I hope not. Maybe not the doctors, but at least the CDC, pharma, and all involved push it for that reason.
I have read that bicarbonate of soda, magnesium, and high doses of probiotic can cure the autism. I don’t know if it will work or not but I have heard about case studies.
There is NO single treatment that will enable recovery in all cases of autism. There are MANY different kinds of treatments that can do a great deal of good for many.
We are an RN/MD team that treat autism using energy medicine and see reversal. NAET- http://www.naet.com for more information, the autism study is heart warming.
Our site is http://www.chicointegrativehealth.com.
What a testimony! Thank you for sharing and adding your voice to this important topic.
I’m sure you’re flooded with well-meaning recommendations, but have you heard of Dr. David Perlmutter? He has a book called “Brain Maker” that is incredible for better understanding autism. He’s a neurologist, but discusses many different aspects of health. I’ve been encouraged by his work.
All vaccinations cause an immune system reaction. When a child receives several shots at one visit it overloads their immune system . Mucus forms in the gut and on the brain. Probiotics and a diet to detox their body can help but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Do not vaccinate. Give your children a healthy diet, organic whole food vitamins and use essential oils to treat any childhood illness. All children would be healthier if they wee not vaccinated.
Also consider raw, unfiltered apple cider vinegar and raw sauerkraut, kimchi, miso, etc. There can be trillions of probiotics in a tablespoon of some of these.
The apple cider vinegar also helps digestion from the standpoint of assisting stomach acidity issues. It is FAR better in almost any circumstance for heartburn, etc in rectifying digestive issues which will also be present in the dysfunctional probiotic environment.
My heart breaks to hear all that you and your children have been through. And, while I think it’s laudable that you didn’t wish to sue anyone and took responsibility for vaccinating William, it absolutely infuriates me that you and millions of other parents are put in the position of either doing something to your child that violates your conscience, or lying to avoid having him vaccinated. The older I get (and the more I listen to John Taylor Gatto!) the more I detest government schooling and this is just one reason why. Who gave them this much control over our lives? WE DID!! It needs to stop before we have forfeited all of our parental rights to meddling know-it-all bureaucrats.
VACCINES DON’T CAUSE AUTISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Think, if the majority of people are vaccinated, then the majority of people with autism would have been vaccinated.
If the minority weren’t vaccinated, then the majority of people with autism wouldn’t have been vaccinated.
Also, think about the fact that before there were vaccines, PEOPLE STILL HAD AUTISM.
I don’t blame people who think that Vaccines cause Autism, it’s easy to become caught up in a whirl wind of unfounded claims, but with the simple observations stated above, I hope you come to realize that Vaccines are beneficial and don’t cause Autism.
ooops typo.
Correction: If the majority weren’t vaccinated, the the majority of people with autism wouldn’t have been vaccinated.
sorry for the typo
ps. I am fully vaccinated and I don’t have Autism
has anyone heard about this?
http://theautismintensive.com/
Anonymous of [email protected], no one thinks vaccines cause autism because “the majority of people with autism have been vaccinated.” Many think they do because they watched their children change virtually over night after a dramatic response to a “well-baby visit” to their pediatrician, and many others believe it because they have investigated the kinds of damage that vaccines can do (read the Vaccine Injury Table and Google “encephalopathy”: http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/vaccinetable.html), and they have studied the science on autoimmunity and chronic inflammation and their connection to autism. But perhaps most importantly, when they treat their children for the kinds of damage that vaccines can do, their children often get well, providing extra confirmation. Your point might have some validity if anyone actually based an argument on it, but they don’t. And even if they did, the only thing your point would establish is that it would be a terrible basis for argument (which is kind of a no-brainer). It isn’t an argument against causation in itself.
And we don’t actually know if people had autism before there were vaccines. Though there is speculation that certain people throughout history had Asperger Syndrome, it is just speculation. And the first medical accounts of any form of autism were by Hans Asperger and Leo Kanner in the early 20th century. Vaccines already existed by that time. Besides which, no one says that vaccines are the ONLY cause of autism. There are many ways to overload people’s abilities to detoxify, many of which existed before vaccines.
Sorry, but your “simple observations” don’t hold up as arguments that vaccines “don’t cause autism,” nor do they establish that “vaccines are beneficial.”
“Contributing factor” is not the same as cause which is what I think most people are feeling when it comes to autism and vaccines…often you’ll hear it worded as “the vaccine autism link”. Autism has increased from 1 in 10 000 to 1 in 45. The numbers speak for themselves. Any intelligent person has to see that this increase isn’t spontaneous.
“Cause” is an interesting word . . . Technically, all that’s required is that a condition would not exist if it were not for a particular exposure. For many people that “exposure” that broke the camel’s back or, to use the most common word, “triggered” the autism was a round of vaccines. Often that round of vaccines came in conjunction with a round of antibiotics and the use of Tylenol to treat fever and pain from the injections. All three of those are very common factors in health histories of people with autism. Teasing out which factors are the strongest is difficult, but when it comes down to it is not all that important if you know that all three are raising the risk and you know that combining them is a very, very bad idea.
ok, hold up a bit. I’m no expert, I haven’t done much research, and personally, I disagree with you and anyone who shares your point of view. I’m not looking to get into a debate or argument, this is my last post, then I will never use this website again. I honestly, (sorry if i sound a bit rude) don’t want you, (specifically: me, and professor TMR, {I thought Lor’s comment was pretty cool}) to read my posts.
To quote Leonardo Da Vinci, “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”
I am trying to encourage the second class of people to get their children vaccinated, I have no concern with the third.
and finally, after a vaccine, it is normal to act slow, different, or tired after the shot. That is because the vaccine is working it’s magic and your child should feel better in like a few weeks.
thank you, and goodnight!
pps. I’m 14, and clearly smarter than at least 1-2 adults.
Sorry, Anonymous, give it a few years and you’ll realize that you haven’t shown anyone anything. By that time, I hope that you’ve done some seeing yourself.
(You’re still ignoring the fact that many people’s children changed drastically FOREVER when they had a round of vaccines. So much for “your child should feel better in like a few weeks.” Besides, if your child is clearly impaired for a few weeks by being vaccinated for diseases that generally last a few days to a week, what exactly was the point of vaccinating?)
Hahahhahhhahahhahahaahhaha lol! Thanks kiddo that made my night! “Hey everyone don’t be concerned when you feel really slow sick or different for two weeks it’ll eventually just go away and no permanent damage! Trust me cause it will make me billions”
Good to see you looking at the vaccine issue, even though I don’t agree with your view or argument. Keep looking and researching. Took me 3 months of research, which included reading medical research papers, to understand that vaccination actually undermines the body’s ability to build real and sustainable immunity. Keep searching and good luck.
Yes, Professory TMR: In 1982, Merck, Wyeth, Lederle, & Connaught blackmailed Congress stating, they would no longer sell vaccines, ‘…unless a law was passed giving them total immunity from prosecution’ (nvic.org). Big Pharma knew they were in serious trouble when the ‘…DPT shot was causing brain inflammation and death in many children’ (ibid). ‘The live oral polio vaccine was crippling children and adults…and Americans were filing lawsuits to hold drug companies responsible for the safety of their products’ (ibid). As a result Big Pharma cannot be prosecuted for their crimes against humanity, but. Additionally, Brandy Vaughan, a former representative of Merck Pharmaceuticals – whose annual reported profit was $30,821,000 in the past year, alone – has been stalked, harassed, wire tapped, & otherwise threatened, after first realising that the company were covering up deaths from their drug Vioxx. After just a little more digging, she found that, ‘There are hundreds of vaccines currently being developed. It has become a game where pharmaceutical companies profit from the fears of disease instead of actually providing education to improve public health through nutrition. Profits are made by poisoning the blood of children with toxic adjuvants like aluminum’ (Devon L.J. 2015). Yet, still some people refuse to listen. http://www.transformtofreedom.com
Anonymous:
Dr. William Thomson and other senior researchers from the CDC found out years ago that: VACCINES DO CAUSE AUTISM!!!
I have to admit though, I’m not surprised with the sound of your comment.
Quite frankly is kind of hilarious to read once again, that “we” have the “need” to blame at something.
I would recommend you to google up MTHFr gene mutation and READ about the danger of vaccines to an individual whose ability to detox is deficient. But probably you won’t because in your mind, you have already decide to believe vaccines do not cause autism.
Well said Lor
To Lor,
Though we disagree, I can always respect someone who argues with facts, statistics, and not with personal opinions and claims. I also respect someone who argues camly, and lets the facts speak for themselves.
though we don’t agree and (never will agree) I respect your level headedness and thank you for your comment.
ps. don’t bother contacting me, i posted a fake email (It’s kinda obvious), and how in the hell could the so called “Professor” TMR get that information.
creepy😕
I get that information because I approve the comments. That’s how it works when people run the website you’re commenting on. Keep that in mind when you make your “anonymous” comments with fake email addresses.
I find it amusing that you appreciate Lor’s comment so much for it’s “calm” lack of “personal opinion.” I guess that’s how you saw your own all-caps pronouncement with the many exclamation points — that you didn’t provide any data or logical argument for. 😀
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html
*drops the mic* Wooooooo!!!!!! lolol YES!!! SPEAK!
Lor. Detox is a problem now of course, because we live not only in a chemical stew, but among those chemicals is roundup.
Not only does roundup (at permissible residue levels) have an allegedly “inert” ingredient called polyethoxylated tallowamine POE-15 – which is apoptic to human cells at 1 and 3 ppm – glyphosate ALSO shuts down the enzyme superfamily Cytochrome P450 – which REMOVES toxins from inside our cells.
Great, more poisons, delivered by a poison, that prevents us from getting rid of our poisons. There is little wonder as to why we are increasingly diseased, and more susceptible to bodily and biochemical insults like vaccines to cause damages.
Anonymous, you are so wrong. . . the 1500% rise in autism rates means that something has changed – and that something are the vaccines themselves. Do some research and you will find that today’s vaccines are made so differently than even the vaccines of 20 years ago. Also, the vaccine schedule today is 69 shots by the age of 18. It may be that the combination of all these vaccines and a person’s individual makeup, is causing this mess, but it seems that a much higher percentage of children are having bad reactions to the vaccines of today, much of it neurologic.
Vaccines are made differently. As Paul Offit will tell you, the amount of antigen has been reduced, but only because they’ve added aluminum-containing adjuvants to stimulate the same strong immune response, aluminum adjuvants that are associated with autoimmune conditions. And aluminum in drinking water is associated with development of Alzheimer’s. There’s no reason to think that injecting it at a young age doesn’t add significantly to the body burden of aluminum, resulting in widespread neurological conditions.
So the fact that the amount of mercury or aluminum in the vaccines is way beyond and over what they recommend for human consumption. But that’s ok because we are only injecting it directly into the bloodstream and those ppm’s don’t mean a thing do they?
There is a way to remove aluminum from the brain.
Drink mineral water.
http://www.realfarmacy.com/mineral-waters-remove-aluminum-from-brain/
Ignore the part about chemtrails.
I do agree that vaccines are indeed very harmful or in the case of guardasil extremely damaging and or deadly.
For those who have been vaccinated I recommend the mineral water (should drink it anyways if you’ve worked with aluminum or used aluminum in any form of cooking) and also a good vaccine detox.
For those who normally drink bottled water it is even easier to implement mineral water. Just buy the Fiji brand which is sold at most wal marts in the USA and at least at the wal mart near me is in a big bin near the registers so it is easy to find.
Yes, Hollie. The escalation of “the amount” and frequencies of the vaccines, alone, is enough for “serious” concern, as is, of course “the potency” of the absolute garbage that they put into these concoctions: Live monkey gland tissue, cells from aborted foetuses, and the one I’ve never heard anyone provide even an attempt at justifying the reasoning for: heavy metals, like Mercury. Apologies, I haven’t backed up anything, here tonight with citations, I’m extremely busy, right now, but if I may attempt to support the above with some testimony: Dr. Rebecca Carly has stated – among many other things that she personally witnessed/experienced – that, “there’s a high level black magick/ritualistic element to it…” Note aborted foetal tissue, above: forced consumption of human tissue. David Icke, additionally, makes an observation, surely worthy of consideration, when he states, “vaccines are about destroying the child’s immune system – NOT making it stronger – rendering a person reliant on Big Pharma drugs for life”. Note heavy metals, and … others above. Regards, Elliot. http://www.transformtofreedom.com
i think sometimes, the best arguments can be other than scientific studies. The rich people always attack the study, and the authors, if it threatens their ka-ching moment.
One big picture view is that of the whole human immune response system. It includes mental/thought, body pH, body electrical charge, but the largest portion of our immune system – generally conced to be near 90% of our immune system – is the probiotics in our intestinal tract. The antigen response on the other hand, seems to comprise about only 2% of our immune system
So – this begs the question: Why are we concentrating on tickling 2% of our immune system and sometimes (many vax damages the probiotics) damaging the LARGEST portion of our immune response? That seems to be very illogical and bad for our general health! The mucous membranes are our first line of defense, our probiotics the second, and we go into the thalamus, the pH, etc from there. At the end – a person whose immune system functions adequately will generate antigens – THAT HAPPENS AUTOMATICALLY WHEN A PATHOGEN NEEDS TO BE FOUGHT if our immune systems are decent. If they are NOT decent we are not even likely to generate an antigen response to a vaccine – so in each case – a healthy immune system is logically MORE important than vaccines.
We can easily branch off into how vaccination is antithetical to our natural immune response from there, but suffice it to state that biochemically – it is impossible for vaccination to induce herd immunity – and we have proven that failure on multiple occasions.
The reason that last is so critical is because so many people want to force vax because they erroneously think that will make their selfish asses safer – and that won’t happen.
Sorry for the crudity, but the VAXASSINATION THEOLOGY crowd are – perturbing.
CDC just added 3 more vaccines…
Yep. No research establishing the safety of the full schedule ANYWHERE, but, hey, that’s no obstacle to adding more, right?
“We’ll just keep adding them on until EVERYONE is sick. Then we’ll just say, everyone is sick. See? That’s ‘normal.'”
Yes, chronic illness is rapidly becoming “normal”, much in the way encephalitic crying is “normal” after vaccinations.
They have co-opted that word to mean “common”, but rely on the public to understand it to mean “nothing to worry about”.
Nicely said, Wendy! There are a lot of “code words” and terms that don’t mean what the public thinks they mean.
Oh is that the brain swelling thingy? No bigs right?
Good thing you didn’t put your name to your comment, Anonymous, because I have never read such badly thought out crap in my life. For your information autism was very rare, 1 in 100,000 before vaccination use became wide spread. Now it is 1 in 48 (epidemic proportions) Autism isn’t a disease, rather a set of syndromes displayed by someone who has experienced brain injury, which could occur during development prior to birth or at birth, or from viral infection or vaccination.
Most children won’t be at risk of autism but some will be or worse, death ( labelled as SIDS). The whole point of vaccination is to reduce nasty side affects or death associated with childhood infectious diseases – however they do just as much harm. The science isn’t clear cut, dispite what the CDC says. Interestingly, as more vaccines are added to the vaccine schedule the more autism numbers grow. The more vaccinations are given to pregnant mothers the more miscarriages or still births are recorded. I had measles, mumps and chicken pox as a child and so did everyone I knew. Our mothers knew how to cook from scratch (not prepackaged crap full of preservatives), doctors use to advise bed rest and good nutrition ( fruit, veg, juices to increase vitamin c, cod liver oil, molasses and castor oil) and do home visits. History records that death or permanent disability from these diseases and others, was very rare prior to the introduction of vaccines due to improvement in sanitation, better access to non contaminated food etc. I vaccinated my children, but in the 80’s the vaccine schedule was only a third of what it is now. Most of the vaccines are unnecessary, even if they actually worked as claimed. If you have to keep getting booster shots, you are better off catching the wild disease and getting life time immunity.
I couldn’t put it in words better Jilly!!
thank you
Gosh Jilly, I agree with every word you say and also vaccinated my daughter in the ’80s but the vaccine schedule was nothing like the one now. Also Anonymous casually saying that a child might be sick for a few weeks after a vaccine is pretty strong considering they receive something like 50 or 60 shots before they are five. That means that even if they have no other side effects they will spend almost all those formative years being sick.
Well said, Jilly.
Very well stated, Jilly! And so true…
Are you paid by big Pharma? You are either paid, or ignorant! Just saying. The facts are the facts! There are so many of you with fake emails and identities that are being paid by Merk, Glaxo Smith Kline, The FDA, or Monsanto. You propaganda is being exposed and that scares you because your profits are shrinking. Here is a FACT: Human lives matter more than profit!!!!!!!!!!
Given the simplicity of the arguments (not generally the tactic of shills who tend to obfuscate), I suspect that Anonymous is exactly as represented, a 14-year-old who really has had no exposure to vaccine reactions and dangers. I think it’s likely that Anonymous really does care, but has a long way to go in understanding the science and data. So let’s provide some science and data.
Anonymous, you can start with this list of papers and studies that support a link between vaccines and autism: http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2007/06/no-evidence-of-any-link.html
That can get you up to speed pretty quickly on the science.
That is a good – and very valid question, Kim. They are called Schils, and I see oh, so many of them: in more numbers and with more frequency, than ever before, right across the social media platforms. I, myself, am heavily targeted because of the work that I do. There is another type, commonly referred to as Trolls, but they serve a slightly different purpose. You probably knew all of that.
What research have you studied and claims can you make for sure that actual data is not collected on adverse affects of vaccines? Are YOU aware that many of the vaccines were created in the midst of diseases naturally dying out on there own? Are you aware that testing was done on “sub cultures” in poor stricken countries that wreaked serious questionable results? Are you familiar with the ingredients? Are you aware of the possibility that vaccines are not only linked to Autism in certain individuals, but also obesity, cancers, diabetes, ADD/ADHD, skin and neural issues, etc., etc., etc, which occur later in the life of us humans?
Just because adverse affects are not immediate, does not mean that these vaccines are safe…..read more, learn more, and try harder. It seems to me that you trust more than you know. That is dangerous and irresponsible.
Autism was unknown until the 30s and always found in vaccinated people.
As far as i know – the vast majority of people with autism ARE vaccinated – just as i have been unable to find ANYONE (they must be hiding) who had tonsilitis or a tonsillectomy who did not have a vaccine. That appears to ONLY happen to vaccinated kids.
Vaccinated infants have dramatically higher rates of ear infection.
Vax kids are 5X more likely to have a hospital visit, have allergies, asthsma, etc – although there are common links. For example on the asthsma – the same parents that don’t think a thing about injecting pathogens, toxic chemicals, poisonous heavy metals, cellular materials from aborted fetuses, monkey parts, dog chunks, etc – tend to think nothing of using acetaminophen on their kids.
Well, that increases their risk of asthsma 5 fold – AND there is an exact correlation btwn acetaminophen usage in asthsmatic children, and their duration, severity, AND OCCURRENCE of asthsma attacks.
So the “drugs solve problems” brainwashing not only damages your children – it IS THE GATEWAY drug – this pHARMaceutical (keeping the harm large in health) acceptance of drugs which NEVER cure any disease (cover symptoms and cause more problems) but train your kids and yourself to think in terms of “a simple pill can help solve my problems”.
Then your kids see you taking drugs for sleep, weight loss, stomach acidity, hypertension, etc – and they see – MOM does drugs all the time….
Hi brad.
I am 20 yrs old and completely un-vaxxed apart from, I believe, the vitamin k shot at birth (not technically a vaccine at all).
I’ve had about 8 cases of tonsillitis, only from the beginning of 2015 to now, and have been referred to an ENT for possible removal.
Not sure what to tell you. i’ve heard there are things in that “K” shot that are pretty bad. We know that many of the 14 natural helath doctors were talking about Nagalese (a cancer enzyme that targets macrophages/killer cells or something very specific – analogous to a 4,000 mile missile destruction of a park bench and ONLY a specific park bench)
We know that the Rockefeller Foundation has paid for the antigen to HCG and has used it to secretly sterilize millions of child-bearing females in Africa, the Philipines, Haiti, and Mexico.
Could there be other damaging hidden things around in vaccines that they just don’t bother to list? Could be – i’m pretty sure the vitamin K is not a healthy natural source K from some things i’ve read – but the subject is so large, and i have well over 200 articles, stories, interviews, charts, graphs, medical abstracts, studies, on vaccines alone it sometimes is daunting to look through bookmark and sub folder and ….
AND you may be the rarity who proves to be the exception. i wonder what your chemical exposure was. Last thing i knew about the tonsils, is that it is the only organ in the body that can make antigens to polio…..
So I guess what the mother experienced in her son was just a side effect of the vaccine given at 12 years of age?
Sure there was autism before vaccines, but the autism rate has increased as vaccine usage has increased.
Also what about a child that was perfectly fine before receiving any vaccines, but started to show symptoms of autism after receiving vaccines? Got any explanation for that one?
It’s interesting how they don’t want people playing with mercury, eating mercury laden fish is harmful and if you break a mercury containing bulb, you have to follow certain specific cleanup procedures and treat it as a hazardous substance, yet it is ok to inject it directly into the bloodstream of a child?
Why do I say that? Because a form of mercury is found in some vaccines.
You need to do more research.
If you have children or are planning on having any I pray you don’t find out the hard way the damage vaccines can do.
vaccinations have huge amounts of Aluminum and should be avoided. I am for immunization not vaccination because of the adjuvents that are so toxic. Go to the CDC site and read what they put in them. The vaccinations do not activate the T cells but the temporary cells in the blood so they do not give life immunity? The immunizations activate the t cells that have permanent memory and give full protection because they act as if the body has had to fight the infection. If vaccinations were perfect there would not be such a large slush fund that we pay for . . to pay out for vaccination injury in the U.S.
So this will be my last point(s) and post because arguing with anti-vaxxers is like urinating in the wind but let’s say for the sake of THIS argument, would you rather have a child that is Autistic or a child that is deceased or has a serious illness?
Also it is good to know that we are starting to see that FULL continents are understanding the dangers of not vaccinating your children.
http://mic.com/articles/131636/here-s-what-australia-is-doing-to-parents-who-don-t-vaccinate-their-kids?utm_source=policymicFB&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=WHFacebook&utm_content=inf_10_285_2&tse_id=INF_4e3ba21d62ba4eb4860053aa22b6c98e#.x9fCNXf4j
I hope you all have a good life. and I hope your children live long enough to love and thank you for the choices you make, whether they be poor or not.
Cheers! 🙂
Jourdan, you’re utterly missing the point. Many children with autism HAVE “a serious illness” and many of them die quite early BECAUSE of the autism. I’ve had measles and mumps (despite getting the vaccines) and the flu. While they can have complications, for the vast majority they don’t constitute “serious illness” and they rarely have long-term sequelae. I would MUCH rather have ANY of those illnesses than autism, and my friends who have seriously affected children would choose measles in a heartbeat. And by the way, I DO have a child that’s deceased, which makes me even MORE keen to keep my living children healthy and less willing to sacrifice their health.
Thank you for the well wishes, despite your disagreement. Believe it or not they are greatly appreciated. Many people who call us “anti-vaxxers” wish horrible things on us, despite the fact that we are not actually “anti-vaccine,” but “pro good health” for all, including those who hate us and their children. When it comes down to it, there is no question that vaccines DO cause harm to some people, and it is a basic human right to be able to decline any treatment that may cause harm.
I’d rather chance the disease. New rates of autism 1 in 45…compared to rates of death from chicken pox? Measles? (Vitamin A supplementing during measles almost eliminates risk of death) risk of my newborn getting hep b?….my kids are vaccinated but if I could have a redo I’d change how many and at what age and there’d be many I’d opt out of.
Jourdan I hope you know that those parents went to see this supposedly “freelance” journalist (he confessed was hired by Merck) with photographs or their children having attached to their bodies a “bag of poop” they were telling him how he lied to them. Because he did not even interviewed them all and also he LIED pretending to be someone he was not.
Unfortunately, for mumps, measles, chicken pox, and pertussis more people are dying from the vaccines than from those diseases in the U.S. So the question is would you rather have a child who is autistic or deceased rather than one who gets the disease and thus gets lifelong immunity. For those figures, check CDC and VAERS.
You erroneously imply this is an either/or decision. Risk vax damages or become permanently injured. The unvaccinated children are healthier. Studies – inadequate ones to be sure – show this ALWAYS. Congress has instructed the CDC to do a comparison study between vaccinated and unvaccinated children from the same demographic. They have refused – why? Because they know the vaccine children would show more chronic illnesses, more asthsma, arthritis, allergies, heart disease, in the early infants – more earaches, more tonsilitis, etc.
You also ignore the fact that we have PROVEN that vaccines CANNOT cause herd immunity. We have met and exceeded the numbers claimed to cause vax induced herd immunity and the disease rates prove this is NOT happening, and in fact – disease rates increase when you vaccinate for a particular pathogen. It is NOT in response – it is vaccine caused.
For example – in S Korea, they had a little chicken pox problem and increased their vax compliance in several stages. EVERY TIME they increased their vaccine rates, the disease CASES increased MORE. They now have 97% infant (15 month) vax compliance and 95% societal vax compliance. Their chicken pox disease cases? TRIPLE WHAT THEY WERE PRIOR TO 2005!!! What does this mean? ZERO herd immunity.
China has a province with over 300,000,000 people and an 99% measles vaccination rate. They had SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVEN OUTBREAKS LAST YEAR with that 99% compliance. ZERO herd immunity.
Therefore, when you figure that vaccines are losing effectiveness (whooping cough, measles, mumps, chicken poxto name a few) and will never cause herd immunity – the rationale for massive vaccination programs is essentially empty and dishonest, no? Yes.
Unlike you, i LIVED through a time in which we pretty much all got sick from measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc. and i have PERMANENT immunity from those diseases. You do not and never will if you vaccinate. It conflicts with and damages the function of your immune system. Vaccines fight the immune system.
Along with my seven siblings, we went to school with THOUSANDS of students from 1954 through the late 70s. Among we seven we have not known of people dying or becoming permanently damaged by the disease – but we know people that got polio from the sugar cubes. Today we know people that have had the flu for each of every sixteen years they say they took the flu shot and haven’t gotten the flu since they stopped taking the flu shot.
Your pro-vaccine premise is kind – to want to protect and help others. Unfortunately the present paradigm and practice of vaccination is morally bankrupt and full of distortions when they are not pushing outright lies. Like vax induced herd immunity. Nice thought. Science free marketing ploy in essence.
I love how Jourdan makes his exit with an attempt at an insult, albeit one that he modified in order to appear “civilized”. Unfortunately for him, we’re all intelligent, and his “urinating in the wind”, rather than insulting us, illustrates what was already painfully obvious. He’s out of his league, and every pro-vaccination attachment he can make can be thoroughly discredited.
I guess what I’m saying is “Bye, Felicia”.
Vaccines undergo months, years even, of trials to ensure that there are as little side effects as possible, but THAT’S NOT HOW AUTISM WORKS. Autism is caused by deficient brain connectivity in certain areas, more for lower functioning, less for higher and strengths in other (strictly for higher functioning though).
Also the doctor who claimed that there was a link between autism and vaccines had his medical licence removed when he was found to have fabricated evidence. Not only that, but his research that was published in scientific, peer reviewed medical journals was redacted permanently. I believe his name is Dr. Andrew Wakefield. #kaythanksbye
*sigh* Every time we get someone talking about “the doctor” who claimed there was a link between autism and vaccines, we know that the person who is commenting knows very little on on the subject. Andrew Wakefield, “the doctor,” and 12 prestigious colleagues at the Royal Free Hospital in London published a paper that indicated there MIGHT be a link between the MMR vaccine and regressive autism (and closely related neurological conditions) because measles virus was found in the guts of the twelve children they studied. There was nothing “fabricated” about the “evidence,” and Wakefield’s colleague John Walker-Smith was reinstated when a judge examined the ridiculous arguments that were used to revoke Walker-Smith’s and Wakefield’s licenses. The arguments were on the level of Monty Python’s accusations of “She’s a witch!” (How do you know she’s a witch?) “She looks like one!”
In addition, to use the term “the doctor” implies that there aren’t many, many doctors making the link between hyper-stimulating the immune system via hypodermic needles and the subsequent development of neurological damage. Absolutely untrue. There ARE many, many doctors making that link because the link exists. One of the biggest hallmarks of autism is that inflammatory genes are “turned on” causing inflammation in the brain: http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/brain_inflammation_a_hallmark_of_autism_large_scale_analysis_shows
Brain inflammation is KNOWN “side effect” of vaccines. Look the word “encepahalopathy” up from the Vaccine Injury Table (list of conditions that are so well associated with vaccination that the vaccine is assumed to have caused the condition): http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/vaccinetable.html.
#kaythanksbye
Vaccines causing autism = complete nonsense. Dr Wakefield falsified his 1998 study for profit and it’s been harming your friends and family ever since. Surprise surprise, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, the doctor in charge of the MMR (Measles Mumps Rubella) study that first established the MMR-Autism link was paid for his findings by trial lawyers (to the tune of 400,000 GBP), who hoped to find the vaccine unsafe. http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/01/01/surprise-surprise-andrew-wakefield-was-p/
As if that’s not enough, Wakefield applied for a patent on a separate measles vaccine. It stood no chance of widespread popularity (profit) unless the government’s standard MMR vaccine fell out of favor for some reason. http://briandeer.com/wakefield/wakefield-patents.htm
You may recall that courts in a northeastern province of Italy recently awarded damages (~140,000 GBP) to the family of an autistic child on the grounds that the MMR vaccine caused his autism. (If you don’t, I’ve included another link)http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/italian-court-reignites-mmr-vaccine-debate-after-award-over-child-with-autism-7858596.html
While you are recalling the latest steaming turd in the heap of anti-vaccination nonsense, please remember that it was Italian courts that convicted 7 scientists of manslaughter for failing to “give enough warning” of an impending earthquake, leading to over 300 fatalities.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-earthquake-court-idUSBRE89L13V20121022
So perhaps Italian courts are simply not to be trusted on matters of science. On the other hand, since the MMR-Autism link was theorized in 1998 and the anti-vax movement started revving up, measles has been making a comeback all across the US and Europe. Because (surprise!) when you stop vaccinating your kids for measles, your kids start getting measles again.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/09/12/221737535/big-measles-outbreaks-worry-federal-health-officials
Not real: Any link between the MMR vaccine and autism
Very real: The biggest measles epidemic in the United States since before the Oklahoma City bombing.
Also THIS:
http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html
Wow, nicely done, Jourdan! You hit every Merck/CDC-approved Wakefield/MMR talking point! Impressive! If only you cared as much about truth as you do getting the talking points down.
First off, Wakefield’s (plus twelve colleagues) study hasn’t harmed a single member of my family or my friends’ families either. It did not play into any decisions I made one way or another. It was ONE case series involving TWELVE children, and merely hinted at the possibility that the MMR might be involved in the etiology of regressive autism. I don’t know about you, but I take my children’s healthcare far more seriously than to rest it on such slight evidence. What that study DID do is prompt some people to investigate the increasing number of vaccines they were being told to give their children. They actually started thinking about what they were injecting into their children before they were old enough to talk, reading package inserts, getting the real stats on “adverse events” and the incidence of “vaccine preventable diseases” and their adverse events, and reading the science on what hyper-stimulation of the immune system through the mechanism of a hypodermic needle does to the immune system. And then they started deciding for themselves which vaccines, if any, made sense for their families. And you know what? Most of them have found that the fewer vaccines their children got, the healthier they were. And once they found that, they started telling their friends about their experiences. You don’t have to take my word for it. Check just about any post on vaccines on this website (and there are plenty to choose from) and someone will have made a comment to that effect. You should really check our Facebook page, though, because for every comment to that effect here, we get 10-15 there.
There is zero evidence that Wakefield “falsified” anything. The facts that were supposedly “falsified” were given to Wakefield and his colleagues by the parents of the children in the study (who by the way issued this statement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHrgYxqcU0w) and, shockingly enough, they differed slightly from the health history data as recorded by the children’s GPs, data which was confidential and not accessible to the doctors at the Royal Free Hospital. One wonders then how Brian Deer, a journalist, got access to that confidential data? But more importantly from the point of view of a parent, how often does your child’s doctor record your conversations accurately in your allotted 15 minutes? Maybe it takes having a child with a complicated health history to understand how low the likelihood is.
The patent Wakefield applied for was for transfer factor, which was meant as a treatment. There was a slight possibility that it could help prevent measles so they added it to the patent application. There is no hint that Wakefield ever had or intended to market a true measles vaccine. If he did, surely he would have mentioned that at SOME point when talking to the press about the MMR vaccine. Instead, he suggested that people revert to the way things were done before the MMR was introduced to the U.K. and give their children the single measles, mumps, and rubella shots that were then available. Interesting that measles vaccination is SO important to the U.K. government, but soon after Wakefield suggested using the single vaccines, the U.K. stopped issuing them. It would seem that the sharp decline in measles vaccine uptake in the U.K. (which did not happen here) was their own fault.
Now as to the connection between the MMR and autism, much stronger evidence actually exists than the infamous 1998 case series of 12 children. The CDC performed a study on the timing of the MMR and autism which was finally published in 2004. During the course of their study, they found a strong correlation between having the MMR “on time” and autism diagnoses in African American boys. And you know what the CDC researchers did? They hid it. They LEFT THE DATA OUT of their analysis and THREW IT AWAY. We know this because Dr. William Thompson, one of the authors on that study, confessed as much to Dr. Brian Hooker, who reanalyzed the CDC’s data and found that same strong correlation. Since that time, Thompson has turned over copies of everything related to the study to Congressman Bill Posey’s office. The relative risk of 3.4 that Hooker calculated makes it likely that the timing of the MMR alone CAUSED autism in those children. If the timing of the MMR alone can cause autism, then how much higher would the relative risk be if those children were compared to controls who had never had the MMR at all? We may never know because the CDC SHUT DOWN inquiry in this area by failing to report their findings. So your “Not real: Any link between the MMR vaccine and autism” is bullshit.
Personally, I don’t think any court is “to be trusted on matters of science,” including and especially the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program of the United States, also known as “vaccine court.” They have compensated over 1300 cases of brain injury. When investigators tracked down approximately 200 of those compensated cases, they discovered that approximately 40% of them had autism diagnoses, implying that over 500 cases of autism have been compensated by the VICP. When there were thousands of backlogged autism cases clogging the VICP, they lumped them all into an “omnibus proceeding.” They took the strongest case, that of Hannah Poling, OUT of the omnibus proceeding and quietly conceded it because the quality of the evidence in her case was so compelling that they couldn’t afford to have that be on record in the omnibus proceeding. As Hannah’s parents are a neurologist and a nurse, it’s no wonder their evidence is compelling. The most interesting fact about the CDC removing the Poling case and conceding it, though, is that Dr. Andrew Zimmerman, Hannah’s neurologist, had reversed his previous testimony with respect to the possibility of vaccines causing encephalopathy and autism. The revised opinion, though, was not available to the omnibus proceeding, which relied on Dr. Zimmerman’s OLD testimony to deny any possibility that vaccines could cause autism and mock the parents of the severely disabled children in the test cases.
Dr. Zimmerman’s statement: “The developing brain is especially vulnerable to mitochondrial dysfunction because of its high metabolic energy demands, and may be critically injured by marginal energy supplied by mitochondria under conditions of stress, such as infections and immune stimulation. Such cellular metabolic injuries in the brain during early childhood typically evolve over time as the child develops and may express themselves as the child grows. An analogy to this situation is birth injury followed by cerebral palsy (CP). Patients with CP may develop epilepsy months or years after the brain insult, but the original insult is still the cause of the epilepsy. This child may improve and make progress developmentally, but then later develop epilepsy or other neurological impairments (e.g. learning disorders). Thus, the time delay between vaccination, encephalopathy, and seizure onset does not preclude a causal relationship.”
Increases in the rate of acute measles infection was predicted long ago by scientists who noted that a certain percentage of people who receive measles vaccines never gain immunity (though even use of the word “immunity” is problematic because it is “measured” by antibody levels, which don’t correspond to actual immunity). Even if you assume that everyone else is immune for life, there will be a small vulnerable population of adults that are at risk of measles infection at any time. When you add in the fact that vaccine-induced measles immunity is not permanent and lasts for less time with each succeeding booster, you realize that there is in actual fact a huge population of adults who are not immune to measles. Which is exactly what we are seeing in our highly vaccinated population. The majority of the cases from the Disney outbreak were in adults. And the majority of those adults had been vaccinated. As a matter of fact, only a small proportion of the Disney cases were in children who were deliberately not vaccinated. In other words, there will continue to be outbreaks as more and more vulnerable adults are traveling to countries where acute measles infection is still common. And despite the fact that measles is acknowledged to be much harder on adults than on children, NO ONE died in “the biggest measles epidemic in the United States since before the Oklahoma City bombing.”
Ask people which they’d prefer, measles, which medical texts used to describe as a “rite of passage,” a week of itchy spots and a fever for the vast majority of people who have it, or a lifetime with a neurological condition that makes it difficult to function in ordinary day-to-day situations and, in about a third of cases, can be profoundly disabling, most will be likely say “I’ll take my chances with the spots, thanks.”
My grandson, now 15, was a happy, healthy child. He had to be vaccinated before beginning school. After his vac’s, he became totally different. He would not make eye contact, did not want to be touched and would not touch anyone else, cried if music was loud and a lot of other things. I saw the difference, searched the internet, diagnosed his condition when he was 7 and told his parents to take him to a doctor. He was given anti-depressants and a referral to a psychiatrist. For the past four years, he has been going to a private school which was founded to educate “bright children who learn differently”. This school has been a god-send. He is bright, makes excellent grades and is developing socially. They do “random socialization” every week as they do not function well in normal situations. This year includes ballroom dancing. He can now sit with adults and have conversation, but when he has had enough of people, he will go into another room to be alone. He has to have his “alone time” and we all respect that and love him just the way he is. I am still very angry that Big Pharm – whoever they are- are still selling this poison and harming children for money. It’s all about the money. I personally know a couple who had triplet girls (had the girls in a Sunday School class). They had their MMR shots. The oldest triplet became very severely autistic, but thankfully, the other two did not. The parents were in a class action suit with several other couples and won their suit. I only know this because one of their grandmothers told me and I was able to find the suit on the internet that named them couples who sued….the triplet’s parents were among them. My granddaughter is now pregnant and I am fearful that something will happen to this precious baby.
i had this very same argument on christmas with my doctor cousin who was willing to blame the entire questioning-vaxx movement on this one “opportunist doctor” who is obviously “just in it to get money.” kind of the way some analysts blame everything wrong in today’s politics on a 3rd rate novelist.
i tried to ask her “what money?” the man had his license revoked, got death threats, had to leave his country- sounds like a get rich quick scheme to me. but she wouldn’t hear it. meanwhile she wholeheartedly agreed that pharmaceutical companies had to be indemnified from legal suits and were entitled to make billions because otherwise, why would they get up in the morning and make these life saving drugs that she admitted were dangerous.
i had to stop before the argument got violent and ruined everyone’s holidays. there was no talking to her
Oh wow they’ve found an actual cause of autism?!? Can you please share the science behind that comment because I’d love to see it? I been thinking all along there was no definitive science confirmed cause found to date. Sarcasm aside autism isn’t genetic and it isn’t environmental…it is both and it is epigenetic…and it is a spectrum. Even when treating with therapy or biomedical treatments what works for one may not for other….some kids have constipation. ..some diarrhea…some ecolala…some stimulus with hands some with mouth…on and on…no exact cause. ….so who are we to say what’s right for each others kids? My child biomedical and diet worked like a light switch! Acetly-l carnitine was one supplement that was his wow! Suddenly he was playing ritualistically and language was developing like crazy….other kids it’s ABA therapy..others it’s b12 injections….some people can’t handle vaccines…even the manufacturers admit this….I believe my son is one of them…why does the burden of proof fall on me? If he had a bad reaction to any other pharmaceutical it wouldn’t be disputed…why vaccines? How would you feel if your kid was very sensitive to something and when you avoided it you got treated like a horrible person and a danger to society?
Jordan – how wrong you are. First – vaccines have NEVER undergone double blind randomized trials. Since 1954 when Salk did his first trial – which was a failure (and samples pulled), there have not been the proper trials. Second – 35% of all pharmaceuticals are manufactured in China, thus negating the true clinical trial Phase II or III process. Third – the 21st Century Cures Act (passed in the summer of 2015) states that pharma companies can use patient experience relating to drugs instead of undergoing proper clinical trials – thus again negating the need for heavy clinical trials. Your information regarding how vaccines are brought to market is clearly flawed. Lastly – Dr. Wakefield’s study was vindicated years ago. He was disbarred in England, but his co-authors filed law suits, and were re-instated (as was the original study). Again – your information is flawed. Dr. Wakefield has established himself as one of the leading voices regarding this movement. As more parents see the absurdity of mandating vaccines – we will see a paradigm shift to where it belongs – more self care, and less vaccines. Wakefield’s study was on inflammatory bowel disease – not autism per se. Again – no facts, just your opinion.
You would not be lying by completing a form or signing a letter claiming vaccines are against your religion; no specific religion is needed to claim that exemption. I wrote a letter stating it was against my religion when my children were in school; after all, it IS against MY religion to do anything that I believe will harm my children — and it doesn’t matter WHAT religion that is.
That’s the same way I feel about it. I do not belong to any organized religion, but I have no problem taking the religious exemption. One definition of “religion” according to Merriam-Webster is “an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group”…so your individual beliefs that are very important to you can be considered a religion.
Just want to tell you my story. It’s nice to know that one is not alone. I have 4 children. All but #3 were born early. The first and and second had their vaccines on schedule, despite their premature age. My eldest children both have autism. My younger two children have had no vaccines and do not have autism or other disorder. Anytime I’m asked about vaccinating I tell docs that I’m not pointing fingers/ blame but this is my experience. I have never been asked twice about vaccinating the younger children.
I have heard this same story many, many times over. Too bad no one’s quantifying this.
You speak sense – too bad the shills wont allow the Truth to come out – but we know and so will everyone else the way this is heading We are a nation of vaccine fed dummies unable to defend ourselves against the onslaught of this NWO which will see the population reduced dramatically Agenda 21. Vaccine damage isn’t our only concern.
I have yet to see any convincing evidence that there is some plot afoot to reduce the population, dramatically or otherwise. The Bill Gates video posted ad infinitum talks about reducing population GROWTH, which is by no means the same thing. “They” have supposedly been planning this population reduction for a long time, and yet the population continues to grow. . . Doesn’t look like “they” are very good at carrying out their plans. It behooves most people with money and power to have a LARGE population to do their bidding, especially if they’re sick enough that they make great pharmaceutical customers for life. I think it’s a waste of creative energy to fear something that doesn’t make sense from the so-called “elite” point of view.
Tracy, the reason is because the medical community wants to keep people sick as sick people make them more money.
I have 4 kids. 2 fully vaxed, 2 partial. I am still positive this is what caused my preemies meningitis. I have also been vaxxed for pertussis and had it not only once, but twice. I could sit on both sides of this argument….the important thing to remember is that you are the parent. Don’t let them bully you about your child’s vaccines. We choose to homeschool to protect our family, but this isn’t an option for everyone. We still do things that require vaccines (think Boy Scouts). We found a doctor that will work with us.
The Boy Scouts do provide exemptions.
My now 19 yr old granddaughter was what I would say a normal 20 month child-talking a bit, making eye contact, etc. Then she got her MMR shot, high fever, covered in a rash and then-yep-she lost all her verbal skills, would not look at you and started lining all her toys up. I would have to block the door with my body when I put her to bed as she destroyed the bedroom, throwing everything she could, waiting for her to wear herself out and sleep. School, IEP’s school aides, social interaction, forget it. We all worked with her for years & years & years. Now she is a high functioning, what I would call-“Aspy”. She is a fantastic artist, has one friend and describes herself as a nerd. I love her, she is a great kid, but I am positive it was the MMR vaccine that altered her brain function. Yet all the studies deny it-WRONG–he vaccine had thermisol and mercury in it-I blame them!
MMR never had mercury in it. It’s a live-virus vaccine, and the mercury would kill the virus. That in no way exonerates either mercury or MMR in the etiology of autism. It just means that if MMR was the trigger in your granddaughter’s case, that it wasn’t the mercury that triggered it, though the mercury in her other shots could certainly be playing a role.
has anyone ever seen this study before? The sample size was only a few kids, so “statistically insignificant”, but they in fact found mRNA from the live measles virus in the spinal fluid of children with autism. I don’t know how this study was conducted, or anything about it specifically, but was hoping that someone on here might know more………… http://www.jpands.org/vol9no2/bradstreet.pdf
All SCIENCE is merely a means to an end. The means is knowledge. The end is control. Beyond this remains only one issue: Who will be the beneficiary?
Wow. That is a shockingly cynical view and not warranted in my opinion. Science is a tool that can be used to ANY end, many of them quite wonderful.
While I agree with you Science is a fantastic tool, it is also true that any tool used for good can be subverted for evil, profit or possibly both. To get an idea of what I and robin (above) are talking about, you might want to read this article. In tearing down Snopes’ credibility in reporting on the safety of Gardasil, the science behind Gardasil safety trials, the actual “science” used by the vaccine manufacturer is put under a microscope. And it doesn’t pass muster.
https://vaxfactchecker.wordpress.com/2015/12/25/the-fallacy-of-using-snopes-to-validate-the-truth-part-i/
Oh, I’m well aware that bad science is frequently used to promote profit over people. I was just saying that that isn’t ALL science is good for. There have been many, many scientific advances that have provided benefits other than profit or “control.” And, personally, I think the use of Gardasil on young girls and boys is going to be regarded as one of those “I can’t believe we ever thought that was a good idea” episodes in the future, like Thalidomide or Vioxx.
There is a ton of data to back up the association of autism to vaccinations. Dr. Judy Mikovits who was fired from the National Cancer Institute for her discovery of retroviruses leaching into vaccines and contaminating them, does an interview here of her discoveries. Excellent information and very important!
It actually has been proven that vaccines are “associated” with autism. There is a video circulating; an interview with a former government doctor who did cancer research at the National Cancer Institute, Dr. Judy Mikovits. She was fired and is now a whistle blower on pharmaceutical companies that develop vaccines. She and her colleague tested rats and mice and discovered that retroviruses from the mice and rats had leached into vaccines that were being tested nearby and caused contamination. The result of this contamination is one of the root causes to the association of many disabilities to vaccinations. The contaminated vaccines have not been recalled nor will they be and are still being administered. The pharma companies refuse to let this news out for fear of panic and loss of money. Dr. Mikovits has a book and website you can find it here: http://www.plaguethebook.com
Here is the link to the interview :
It is definitely worth listening to, quite shocking!
We practice NAET which reverses vaccine damage, see our website for the autism study!
Everyone seems to have their own opinion on this so I might as well weigh in;
Sept 2nd I had a 40lb crucible of aluminum hit a water pocket underground and blow up in my face. I spit ~2tbsp of molten aluminum out of my mouth and had to dig a lot of burning pieces out of my eyes (not to mention the rest of my face).
The pain was pretty bad but nothing overwhelming. I get all of my dental work done without freezing, have sewed myself up more than a few times when living in the bush, stuff like that.
There were a few gouges on my face where rocks had torn pieces out so I figured a trip to the hospital might be a good idea.
They couldn’t really do anything but then the mention of my overdue tetanus came up.
Now, I’ve been listening to the anti-vaxxer movement for a LONG time, done a lot of research and I don’t think that vaccines should be used nearly as much as they are.
However I had already gotten 2 other tetanus shots with no ill effect so “what could be the harm?” The trouble is; This wasn’t a tetanus diphtheria shot like before, it also had pertussis (commonly thought of as a “problem vaccine”). For reference; 5 people in my COUNTRY got tetanus last year, 1 got diphtheria, and I already had pertussis (whooping cough) despite most vaccine schedules lapsing by YEARS. This crap is over-prescribed…
Apart from my arm being more sore than my face (which is saying something… 3rd degree burns to 10%, 2nd to 30%, and 1st to 30%) I was fine.
For about a week.
That’s when the headaches started. At first I didn’t really notice them or I attributed them to my face healing up.
After 11 days my face had healed beautifully (I took a pic every day, feel free to argue) but the headaches really started to ramp up.
The last time I had a headache was ~3 years prior to all this when I broke my skull skiing. The damn thing bled like a stuck pig and I had to sleep with a toque stuffed with paper towels. THAT headache only lasted 4 hours.
Now I am plagued with headaches on a daily basis. For the most part I can block them out but it’s exhausting. I have started sleeping for ~10 hours a night which is very odd for me.
I’m a VERY athletic 32 year old man with no natural vulnerabilities. I’m immune to nearly all biological toxins from poison ivy to mosquito bites to clouds of jellyfish (some spider bites make a bump), and I never get infections.
If I knew then what I know now I would have shoved that needle somewhere very uncomfortable for the doctor…
I’m curious from what others say. My son is 6 and has autism. I have always had him get his shots because I was told that’s what you do. I have always been a firm believer in its caused by what you put into your body while your pregnant because there’s so many chemicals in food now compared to 20 years ago. There’s a lot of chemicals of food we use here in America and its banned in other countries. I have changed my sons diet and I have noticed a difference. If this vaccine thing is also a causing factor, I’m curious of any parents reading this if they ever had a child with autism that has never been vaccinated?
Yes, Brittany, it does happen. Autism (and other neurological conditions) seems to result when the overall load of toxins in a particular body gets to be more than that body can handle. This arises from a combination of factors including genetic ability or inability to clear toxins, epigenetic turning “on” of inflammatory genes, and specific types of environmmental insults. Some of the most common toxic exposures in children who develop autism include prenatal interventions such as ultrasound and maternal vaccines, interventions at birth such as antibiotics, vaccines starting with the first day of life, Tylenol (which lowers glutathione, a crucial component in detoxification), general anesthesia, heavy pesticide load in our food supply, antibiotics and hormones in meat and dairy, etc., etc. For any child, when the load gets too high, a diagnosis may result, including a diagnosis of autism. Vaccines are one of the biggest factors for many children (partly because there are SO MANY of them and they are given SO EARLY), but they are by no means the only one.
My 18 month son got vaccine injured same day I took him in. He took a long, long nap after the shots. Then he woke up and it was like he was “switched” for another child. A very long list of problems appeared that afternoon and remained with us for years.
Has took us an important amount of money to recover him and a ridiculous amount of time to work with him one to one.
As the author stated, nobody can tell me otherwise. I lived it, I was there, I saw it.
And yes, as how she asserted in this article: my.son.would.NEVER.get.any.other.vaccine.
http://www.abebooks.com/Healing-Symptoms-Known-Autism-2nd-Edition/18584024653/bd?cm_mmc=gmc-_-used-_-PLA-_-v01&product=COM9780989289047USED
This is maybe not totally relevant, I have no children but have raised horses and dogs for many years. Approx. 30 years ago I had a young dog have an adverse reaction to a vaccine and started doing some investigation, after that I have only vaccinated when absolutely necessary and only with single component vaccines. I noticed an increase in health in all of my animals and have adhered to this system for years. It is more expensive but I always try to have titer levels done for Rabies rather than automatic vaccination and feed the least processed food possible. I have lost no animals to diseases.
It’s ABSOLUTELY relevant. Animal biology is different, but not THAT different. Also, since most animals have shorter average life spans than humans, large-scale effects are more readily apparent.
there is a disclaimer, now, in my vet’s office, warning of “side effects” for the rabies vaccine. My indoor cats will NEVER be vaccinated for anything, again.
Boy, there sure are a lot of assumptions about Autistic individuals by people that don’t have it in here. And, by the way, being a parent or sibling or friend of a person with autism doesn’t make you the damn expert.
You allistics don’t know what its like, and I don’t think you can even begin to understand what we go through. Your kid didn’t have a ‘reaction’ to the shot, he was FRIGHTENED, especially by his FEAR MONGERING MOTHER who probably jumped him up further with her psychobabble anxiety that she was foisting onto her child.
I’m 24, I have autism, I think you people are insane and killing kids and trying to take us all back to the dark ages.
I dare you to speak above me because you know what we go through despite you not having autism. Go ahead and silence us some more.
This is simply harmful. Your movement is harmful, especially to those of us with autism. Quit babying us and telling us whats what. Let us speak for ourselves.
Sorry, peeps, but you are making just as many assumptions as anyone else. What on earth makes you think that this mother doesn’t know her own child’s reaction to fear? I know you are only 24 and probably have no idea what it is like to have a child, but the average mom of a special-needs child is more clued in than you can possibly understand. You honestly think this woman was the mother of a child with autism for twelve years and wasn’t familiar with his reaction to fear? And your characterization of her as “fear-mongering” is ludicrous given your belief that she didn’t RECOGNIZE fear when it was in front of her. In short, You know NOTHING of this child or his reaction, but you assume that you know more than his mother does about him simply because you have autism. There is no logical basis for that assumption.
At least some people DO react badly to vaccines, whether or not you wish to believe it. Documented proof abounds that vaccines DO cause encephalopathy (brain inflammation) that can lead to developmental regression (and sometimes an autism diagnosis). In fact, there have been at least 1300 cases of brain injury compensated by the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, and investigators found that approximately 40% of those they contacted (approximately 200) had a diagnosis of autism. Take a look at this vaccine injury table and Google some of the terms there like encephalopathy.
No one is trying to shut you up. You can do whatever you like with your own life. That’s your choice. You can vaccinate the hell out of yourself if you wish. And you can advocate for yourself to your heart’s content; we would be the first people to cheer you on. But don’t assume YOU know what’s going on for someone else just because the same word is used to describe your condition. They don’t say “If you’ve met one person with autism, you’ve met one person with autism” for nothing.
Well, aside from the parents who know there was a dramatic change, and then autism, after shots, there are numerous studies showing vaccines cause autism, payouts from the government for vaccination-caused autism, and it has also appeared as a “side effect” on some vaccine package inserts, along with various other named neurological damages. The fact that a CDC whistleblower came forward and produced documents which the CDC had tried to destroy, showing the link between vaccination and autism, was discussed in Congress, for crying out loud.
we know of a 14 yd who had the shot….just a few wk ago…so sorry …..so sorry now he is in deep trouble from the shot…with in a wk…went from healthy to very sick young man…speech, twitching ,getting worst every day…passing out etc..
Thank you so much for sharing your story, I am so sorry that happened to your child. It’s like I explain to people that really don’t understand, I simply say His gun was loaded from previous vaccines, The 8 jabs in one day pulled the trigger. He has not had a single shot since 20 Months of age. His Doctor told us after a year of extensive testing, one more shot that day would have most likely took his life.
Peeps, there is noway you have a clue about a typical toddler already taking in sentences, had all his vax as ped advised up to 20 Months. That day the very uneducated Doctor jabbed him with 8 doses in one day. I watched that baby’s life changed forever. He lost his words, his eye contact, meltdowns from Hell! Today that child is 17 & still can’t tie his own shoes, stuck in a special class labeled with Autism. Yet you were able to read this & leave negative comments about those of us that KNOW for a fact what happened to our once healthy, happy child. With lots of therapy, diet, supplements (The MMR is what pulled the trigger for him) The measles broke out in his gut & he will forever live with gut issues. I wish this 17 year old could read this & type like you did. True Autism is NOT genetic, there is no such thing as a genetic epidemic, so can you explain why 1 in 45 now are diagnosed with Autism. I literately hate that word as it is a huge Spectrum, every child is different.
It seems you did NOT read this article.
This is “not a movement”
Rent yourself books and read.
What do you know about smallpox vaccine or polio? Do not think biased info from corrupted CDC and Pharma paid “researchers” are telling you the truth.
Are you actually AWARE about the CDC Whistle-blower who confessed to HIDE AND LIE to the public about the connection between vaccines and autism?
It seems you are being waaay to quick to judge.
Remember: We as parents thought and believed and trust vaccines were protecting our children, this thought was exactly what brought us to this blog. My son for instance was damaged by DTAP at age 18 months.
THIS RESPONSE SPEAKS SO MUCH TRUTH! !
Take a 3-week treatment of MMS and if you dont start pooping worms, i will listen to you. How dare you tell US parents of kids with autism that we dont know what you go through. I know exactly what you go through and i know exactly how to cure it, as I recovered my own son when every neurologist and psychologist told me he would be disabled forever.
Even if you recovered your own son, you cannot know “exactly” what will cure anyone else as no two people react the same way to treatments. Even the most positive of treatments have triggered regressions, some of them permanent in a subset of individuals.
Power to you, Karina! Excellent job protecting your child <3
Look at you! Well versed! Not at all like her son. Screaming and not able to communicate. GOOD for you! You understand where he is coming from I’m sure! YUP! You totally do! You seem like you were able to communicate fairly well. I know if I hadn’t taken the steps with my son that I did he would not be communicating. But that’s ok! I guess we just have to accept that! I don’t give a crap what you have unless it’s as severe as this boys you have NO idea what you are talking about!
Also, for anyone with headaches gluten-free could very possibly get rid of your headaches. Also, if you tried gluten-free and you didn’t see any diff….possible you were not gluten-free enough. After his MMR my son was no longer able to live in the same house as any form of wheat or gluten. He would regress like you wouldn’t believe. The clear sentence speaking just gone and he was using one word to communicate. Not to mention the constant screaming. Through changing his diet and environment he no longer shows any of this. And we are seeing a naturopath who is giving him remedies and he has certainly come a long way!
Do you suffer from gastrointestinal discomfort or anxiety? As a mother I treated my child’s symptoms not his personality….most who want to green vaccines are not judging our loved ones on the spectrum..we are simply trying to heal and help them. I can only speak for my experience which includes over 1300 hours of research and the happiness I see in my child as he was able to speak, anxiety subsided and chronic explosive diarrhea stopped. ASD was once 1 in 10 000 now 1 in 45….this isn’t simply due to increase ability to diagnose..I believe some people are autistic: aprox 1 in 10 000….the others are overloaded with environmental toxins, overuse of antibiotics and substandard diets.
There is nothing wrong with loving yourself and seeing your Autism as a gift. Please remember most of us are parents just trying to ease our children’s discomfort…it’s not about having a perfect child or fixing them…seeing my child regress was heartwrenching…he was in pain.
So what can we do to properly immunize children without causing the inflammation? Is there a way to prime the immune system without causing an auto immune disorder?
Yes, look into Classical Homeopathy/homeoprophylaxis. Get informed about what really is in the vaccines – the heavy metals and animal DNA in the vaccines are often the “culprits”… Vaccinosis, the adverse reaction to vaccines can be treated homeopathically as well and often reversed. Good luck!
Good advice.
Yes, Maria, there is a way to immunize your children but it’s not what you think. And it’s not what you’ll easily find in the mainstream either.
Stay with me, it’s worth it!
The answer is surprisingly simple. We already have what we need, we just don’t know about it anymore.
Healthy people don’t need the doctor, or the dentist, or the Pharmacy. Healthy people have what our ancestors had. A Healthy immune system. It, along with high human intelligence helped our ancestors dominate the earth.
How can we have what they had (a healthy immune system)? The key to this is really to understand how vastly different our foods are from what they ate. Soil mineral depletion, artificial fertilizers, modification to foods, intense farming… basically what modern man has done with our foods to turn a bigger profit. Nutrient poor soil = nutrient poor food. Not just that but the plants then suffer a lack of defense and so man’s response is to treat the symptom and spray the crops with poisons to kill the bugs. End result – we get food that has little to offer our immune system. Our immune system fails. The Pharmaceuticals then treat our symptoms with more chemicals and so it goes on.
The answer? Source better, nutrient dense foods for your children and yourself to eat. Sounds so simple. Too good to be true perhaps.
For thousands of year we humans survived living outdoors, with predators, all kinds of dirt around us yet we survived and thrived. We did so without hand gels, without antibiotics, without need for injected vaccines from birth, and throughout our lives. We (they) didn’t even have any doctors or hospitals or basic sterilizing equipment… People lived, babies were born, people thrived and eventually they died. To this day, animals in the wild get along quite well without us and our medical advances, so do primitive hunter gatherer humans today.
When we humans were primitive and without the knowledge of modern medicine, we were armed with an immune system that defended us from biological attack all day long (and all night).
There is a movement to get back to human basics. Just as there is an opposing movement to promote disease and slow down population growth. I’m not suggesting we all go live in caves BUT we can all try feeding our children and ourselves with real, human food. In turn we support our local famers who really want to provide us with Organic, Free Range, Grass Fed produce.
Hippocrates famously said “Let food be thy medicine”. He is considered by many as the founding father of medicine today but it would seem to have gone ‘off-track’. Indeed Dr’s used to (maybe still do) swear the Hippocratic Oath.
Food used to be our medicine. Sadly now – for the unaware, it can be our poison. The kind of food and water that humans once thrived on are in decline. You see, what we eat and drink now is so far removed from what our ancestors ate and drank that we now have major problems. Why? Because we truly are what we eat. We are literally made of the food we ate. If we eat nutrient rich foods we will be nutrient rich and therefore our immune systems will have all the materials they need to keep us healthy. If we eat nutrient poor foods we will of course be nutrient poor – but we need those nutrients to live healthy lives. Real health. Not Heath Service healthy (propped up on pills and potions).
Don’t get me wrong, there are many, many wonderful health care professionals with wonderful intentions. But sadly they don’t run the show.
My Advice:
Eat lots of raw vegetables, Avoid Wheat, cut out Gluten. Cut out high sugar foods, Eat natural saturated fats without fear or heart disease.
Check out ‘Diet Doctor’ and ‘Primal Blueprint’ for ideas on recipes and full details and links to scientific studies proving health benefits and safety of saturated fats.
I eat lots of vegetables and natural animal fats. I’ve NEVER been healthier. I can’t remember the last time I had so much as a cold.
Getting back to basics with your food helps with many types of modern disease, including autism. Cut Wheat, gluten and Sugar from your diet for starters and after 21 days you will not believe the difference in your health! Seriously.
Something has gone very wrong but it’s not too late to opt out of the current manufactured health Chaos.
For every google hit you find containing answers to this problem – you will also find accusations of ‘Quackery’. There are commercial interests in keeping us sick, sorry to sound like a conspiracy theorist but this all checks out. The deeper you dig the more you find out. For example if you look up a Dr named Linus Pauling, you will find that he is the only person to ever have won the Nobel Price 2 times. Ever! He rubbed shoulders with Einstein and Bertrand Russel. Together they helped end above ground nuclear weapons testing. So – we’ve established that he was somewhat of a genius. One of the intellectual elite. He also stated that every disease (every disease) can be traced to a mineral deficiency. So, this 2 time Nobel prize winning genius who later in his career stood in opposition to some of the more sinister movements humanity has yet seen and surprise, surprise he has now been discredited and branded as a ‘Quack’.
So if you are still reading, well done and thanks. Make up your own mind. When the ‘experts’ and government agencies are telling the genius’s that they don’t know what they are talking about, (not me – the Nobel Peace prize winners and the Dr’s who are curing patients of stage 4 cancers etc) I know which I will take notice of all the more.
Survival of the fittest rules are back in play (sadly). Become a survivor in the modern world.
My advice:
Go get some mineral dense foods into your children and yourself (organic, free range, grass fed, line caught etc. – not processed, not intense farmed, not GMO). Plenty of leafy greens and raw vegetables will do you well. Clear you out and give your immune system what it needs to protect you. Eliminate as much chemicals as you can from getting onto or into your body. Filter your domestic water supply. Find some fluoride free toothpaste for them. Use natural cleaning products in your home, natural cosmetics too. Try out mineral stone underarm deodorant for example – Salt is anti-bacterial and also good for your body. Works better than any spray or roll on I ever used. Seriously. Its way superior! Use coconut oil for your hair, for styling. Use spices and essential oils. If you are unsure of an ingredient in something, look up the MSDS sheet online (Material Safety Data Sheet) and see what that tells you about the safety of the chemical. See if you think it is it safe enough for you to be feeding it to your children. Examples; Flouride, triclosan, chlorine… acceptable at low doses and deemed safe but also labelled as dangerous poisons some even fatal in relatively small quantities. Check things out. Do your research. Don’t trust the sellers – you are the buyer. Be selective of what you consume. Make up your own mind with the information you find, not necessarily what the seller or the government agencies, or the medical staff tell you unless you know and trust the source of their information.
Nature knows best! In nature, poisons tend to be obvious. Example, brightly colored poisonous frogs etc. In our modern world they are often hidden from view.
Educate yourself with the truth and survive longer. The Truth Shall Set You Free.
Well said Ronnie All of what is said is right, we really need to stop believing in these charlatans and go back to basics food wise. I am allergic/intolerant to just about EVERYTHING food makes me really sick EVEN vegetables now that I have a Salicylate allergy so there are no more food groups I can try. (I need a garden to grow uncontaminated food but they wont “allow” me one) I am also Autistic and struggling isolated and alone because there is no help out there for Autistic Adults like me except for pain killers which I’m given and then left to get on with it. Mainstream news = LIES I am ditching my teLIEvision and its hidden in plain sight Control. Once you start to see whats really going on, its like a freight train a coming and it doesn’t stop – full blown OMG is this real? IT IS real but whats comforting is knowing that there are people like you out there spreading this information and more and more people are becoming aware so Thank you – The Truth shall set you free.
yeah… let them be.
its like asking “how do you make a baby inside a womb?”. we dont. we just let it be and it grows into a full human being.
Do nothing.
let the body’s immune system do its job on its own. That’s what it’s there for.
Up until the advent of vaccines the immune system was apparently good enough to fight off diseases (improved sanitation helped reduce the occurrence of many diseases) so why all the sudden did the immune system need help?
I am so sorry you and your son had to experience this.
I am wondering if anyone has done any research on the influence of adult vaccines and it causing autism? Or is it just children’s brains that are susceptible? My husband was in the marines and they would line them all up for their “jabs” he got vaccinated for loads of things anthrax, small pox etc. I wonder what the incidence of adult onset autism after vaccination is- or does that not happen? I will have to research more.
Thank you for sharing your story.
Hi, Jessica. Great question. There isn’t much research being done, but the fact is that neurological damage can occur at any age as well as damage to the immune system. If you get a chance, see the film Trace Amounts by Eric Gladen and Shiloh Levine. It chronicles Eric’s neurological illness triggered by a tetanus shot at the age of 29. Eric did his own research and figured out that he had been mercury poisoned. He got well using a low-dose chelation protocol, but he was struck by the similarity between what happened to him and what he kept hearing about children who regressed after a round of vaccines. The film is fascinating and extremely well done. You might also want to read Vaccine Epidemic and pay close attention to the chapters on the military and the incidence of autoimmune diseases. In general, adults’ immune systems may be damaged, but because their neurological systems have already finished normal developmental, they will not have identical problems to those of small children. Alzheimer’s on the other hand is certainly affected by aluminum (the correlation to levels in drinking water is very clear in the scientific literature), and many of the vaccines they receive are laced with aluminum salt adjuvants.
I can tell you what happens in adults with vaccine injury that mimics autism. it’s called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I had my childhood vax MMR and developed autistic symptoms, then DpT and more severe symptoms as a child (8 and 11), then in adult hood in the peace corps received 17 vax in one month! i fell into CFS then…the previous vax set that stage for me.
Hey, Susan, you would probably be VERY interested in the work of Judy Mikovits. She found that a retrovirus (that might have been there because of certain vaccines being cultured on mouse tissue) was present in a large proportion of adults with chronic fatigue and a similar proportion of children with autism. It may well be a big part of both issues. http://www.amazon.com/Plague-Scientist%C2%92s-Intrepid-Retroviruses-Syndrome/dp/1626365652
All I can say is, given my health, I’m glad I was turned down for the Peace Corps when I applied as an undergraduate.
We practice NAET, energy medicine that reverses the vaccine damage, please see the study on our website at chicointegrativehealth.com.
Emily, I’d love to know what state you’re in. For some states, the religious exemption is really a philosophical exemption, even though they don’t call it that. My state is like that. I, too, am opposed to lying. When I had the discussion with my midwife about vaccines (during my 5th pregnancy), I told her I’d like to have an exemption, but my religion isn’t against vaccinations. She asked, “Do you BELIEVE they’re harmful?” I nodded. “Do you practice non-vaccinating, remaining true to your beliefs?” “Yes,” I answered. “Then it’s a religious belief. Go get the exemption.”
My child regressed after 15 month vaccinations. We have been working very hard for the past few years to get him verbal, eating, pointing, greeting, interacting, etc. Last time he went for his well child check-up, the doctor wanted to give him more vaccinations, but I had already signed a refusal and told them he was vaccine injured. They somehow “lost” that paperwork and insisted he get his vaccines. I said, “No way are we going to lose the progress he has made!” He will be coming up for another well child check-up soon. Thank you for the reminder of my need to stand firm on the refusal. Keep telling your story. You are helping others.
“Well child checkups” were created as a way to get parents in the habit of bringing their kids in for vaccines. These visits are revenue-driven, and have nothing to do with maintaining actual wellness. I’ve worked for doctors and I know this to be true.
This is just a question for my own research… Did you happen to give your child tylenol around the time he got the vaccines?
Thanks in advance.
Dear Emily Davis Hall. I do not know which year your son became injured by the DPaT or when you first wrote this but I do know that in Feb. 2015 about 1 in 68 children had autism. In just a short period of time it has now grown to 1 in 45. I do not know how the News gets away with this. I am sorry that injury has struck you 3 times. The 3rd time with the DPaT. Thank you for sharing your story.
My Mother had been diagnosed of (HBV) disease 3 years ago. She had been using the interferon therapy (Peg-interferon + Ribavirin) which adversely affected her hemoglobin level as she is also thalassemic (a side effect of using the interferon therapy). Luckily after stopping the treatment.
I read a book by HEALTH MED LAB about natural cures and he recommends these two things as a natural cure for HEPATITIS disease,Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy and Crocodile Protein Peptide. You can Google both of these to get more info. Also, need to do the cleanses,colon, liver, kidney, gallbladder. Eat organic foods to get the toxins out of your body so your body can overcome the disease itself.This is important. I am not promoting his book, but I feel it is a must read if you want information on how to beat this awful disease. My mother is now HEPATITIS Negative with his help, Anyway, his email : ([email protected]) God bless and good luck!
The treatment you describe was used for HCV. Now there is a cure for HCV that is 99% effective without the side effects of interferon – its called Harvoni. So no need to for H202 and crocodile protein or anything else…well then again Harvoni does cost $8oK for the treatment but I guess that is what the ACA is for.
Yes a drug made by big pharma……………
I will refrain from discussing the problems with the ACA as this is not the right place for it.
I believe you and I am anti-vaxxer. I have a son who hado a “minor” vaccine reaction that left him only with severe chronic allergies. The only thing I didn’t like about your story is that you painted yourself into the nice quiet box of “I can’t do anything except tell my story. I think that is a copout. You can do almost everything on that list that you said you can’t do. You are right that you can’t sue the drug company but in their place you can seek redress from the US govt through the vaccine injury program. You can sue the doctor and the school system. These policies are harming people and they must be held accountable.
Excellent, Shane. Great encouragement. And, my thoughts exactly.
Additionally, Emily, and anyone else who are now seeing their children suffering as a result of these hideous monkey glands, & feces, that have destroyed your child’s immune system may be very interested in reading this article here: http://www.transformtofreedom.com/effects-of-silver/what-is-colloidal-silver
You may also wish to read about Dr Rebecca Carley who specialises in “reversing vaccine induced illnesses.” Here: http://www.reversingvaccineinduceddiseases.com
Regards, and I wish for your children all the very best.
Elliot Sabino.
Another excellent resource is Dr. Kenneth Boch’s, “Healing The New Childhood Epidemics: Autism, ADHD, Asthma, and Allergies”.
I am an anti-vaxxer. When both of my kids had mild reactions 20+ years ago, I stopped vaccinating them. My son ended up with some mild allergies and mild behavioral issues which were correctable with a lot of work! My granddaughter’s pediatrician has only recommended one vaccine at a time and not the multi strain, multi dose regime that most kids get now, but my daughter has opted to NOT vaccinate and she is supported by her pediatrician! Thank God!
SEEK compensation! There IS a vaccine injury program and they have paid out millions. You deserve to be part of that!
You guys are awesome! More and more people are waking up to the fact that government and big pharma have merged and are harming our children. It’s amazing to see!
Thank you Nan Wilson for the info’ on another doctor whom people can seek out, and also Patrick for your support. I’d like to add, here, something I just posted:
In 1982, Merck, Wyeth, Lederle, & Connaught blackmailed Congress stating, they would no longer sell vaccines, ‘…unless a law was passed giving them total immunity from prosecution’ (nvic.org). Big Pharma knew they were in serious trouble when the ‘…DPT shot was causing brain inflammation and death in many children’ (ibid). ‘The live oral polio vaccine was crippling children and adults…and Americans were filing lawsuits to hold drug companies responsible for the safety of their products’ (ibid). As a result Big Pharma cannot be prosecuted for the crimes against humanity, but … The school can be; the doctor, who administered the vaccine can be. Sue them, people; until no school or doctor will touch a vaccine! We must STOP this (essentially rape) of the world’s children. http://www.transformtofreedom.com
Please, allow me to add this information, that I found the other day, also? It supports what we know of the agenda, in a major way:
Does this tell us anything about Australia’ recently elected prime minister, Malcom Turnbull? It was on “his watch” that the Social Services Amendment (no jab-no pay) Bill, 2015 was passed into Legislation by the Federal Government. Could this be because he own shares in Pfizer Pharmaceuticals, and his wife Lucy is the Chair of Prima BioMed Ltd. which is a biotechnology company that develops immunotherapeutic products for the treatment (not the cure, of course) of cancer? Turnbull also own shares in 3G Capital, located in The Cayman Islands – because there is no information on what it holds.
I agree. You absolutely should report the reaction! You can report to your doctor AND you can report it yourself to the CDC.
So glad to hear that your son is Making some progress again. I feel bad that you were pressured into that. I have worked with some kids with autistic symptoms in the past with good success in my business and know that many of the symptoms can be helped and sometimes even reversed with the right help. But I really find it hard to swallow how society is so blind and willing to be brain washed on this matter.
I vaccinated my children and I believe in vaccinations but absolutely believe parents must have the choice to do what’s right for their children. Thank you for sharing your story.
Believe in the like a religion? Why would you put formaldehyde, aluminum, mercury, live viruses, monkey DNA, and human embryo diploid cells into your children? Sanitation, not vaccination, fights disease; Clean water, organic healthy foods, and a sterile environment.
Thank you for being open minded to parental choice, Tina. So many pro-vaxers are not, and vilify those of us who choose differently for our children. You are a breath of fresh air.
Thank you,for sharing your story! Drs have constantly argued with me because I no longer vaccinate my children. Unfortunately our oldest was the family “guinea pig” and started having problems after receiving his MMR and Chicken Pox Vaccine 3 days before his 1st birthday. He also developed food allergies as a result of his Chicken Pox Vaccine documented by the allergist. I trusted my instincts and never continued his Vaccines, however the damage was already done, thankful that it wasn’t worse it could have been. He has Aspergers I’d hate to image how bad it could’ve been had we not stopped his Vaccines when we did. He’s now almost 12 and we have our daily struggles with him,but I wouldn’t trade him or the world!
Thank you so much for sharing your story, so many people will find value in it. There are many who are still unsure about the vaccines and this story really helps explain how they can harm children.
I am sorry to hear you and you family had to go through such things, God Bless.
I would like to share my story of my son who was born normal and healthy. aT 6 weeks old my son was given his DPT/ MMR back in June 1984. My son body started to react and swell and he became lethargic and shallow breathing. I called our pets dr and was sent to the ER immediately. bEfore he got to ER he started seziuring severely every couple of seconds in the abulance. tHe ride seems forever when it was only 10 mins. The ERcdoctor was standing at the door ready for him. He was given pheabarbital injection to try and stop the seizures. the ER Doctor was already aware that he has just within a few hours received his shots. once he was stable enough he was transferred to Walter Reed Army Med Ctr in Washington DC due my being active duty. tHey admitted and started doing all kinds of testing to save him. He is now 31 years old and exempt from all vaccines per the advice of the Chief of nuerology in WRAMC. He is currently in a 31 years old but his brain damaged him to be approximately 12 months old to 2 years old. over the years he learns by repetition for certain words like cook, food, milk. he has never called me mom or his dad daddy. he is blind, neurologically impaired, developmentally delayed permanently, diapers, he is total care 24/7, wheelchair, but I love him unconditionally. anyone who would like to see the proof please email me and I will show you the picture of a beautiful baby at 3 days old, 6 weeks old, 9 months old, 31 years old. I use to keep his pictures out of the public eye but I am so sick and tired of people who think vaccines do not hurt people because scientist say so. fIrst walk in my shoes for 1 day and then tell me you that the vaccine didn’t cause my son disability because some of the best doctors that different presidents and congressman have used informed me my son was going to be a vegetable and put him in the institution and forget about him. Yes that’s true….I said no and took my baby home and still raise him to the best of our abilities. I have advocated my whole life for all disabled while still serving my country from the oath I took to defend it. 26 years and now retired but still advocating for all disabled.
Please don’t insult me because I don’t have a degree in since but I do have my own degree in researching my whole life and knowledge about my sons illnesses.
I’m so terribly sorry to hear what you’ve been through. I have an advanced degree and know many with them – and I still feel the best education is life experience which you most certainly have. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
Sending Love and Light to you and your son.
I believe you!!!
I believe you!
I believe you, and stand with you!
I believe you. You are a wonderful loving woman + brave! Many blessings to you and your family.
That is a powerful story. Share, share share. It could happen to anybody. One in 38 is now autistic, and one in 6 has learning disorders. This wasn’t happening in the 70’s/80’s when the vaccine schedule was minimal. Anybody that says it was just “underdiagnosed” isn’t using common sense either, as otherwise there would be many 35+ adults with autism about. There isn’t. The only thing that has changed is the vaccination schedule! Which has now increased by 3-4x the amount of dosages since 1980. This has to stop. The lies have to stop. Vaccine tyranny has to stop.
Sharing your statement!
I agree with you, but the vax schedule is not the only thing that has changed. Our food is so processed! My son was never vaxed, but he still has Autism. We have mittigated many problems by changing his diet to no processed foods. I cant imagine what would have happened if he had been vaxed!
Hey Liz, not even the Hep B shot at birth?
Fully support you on this! My brother who is now 40 was autistic like – couldn’t walk or talk at age 2 – my mom says that she noticed this changed after the MMR shot when he was 2. That was 1981. HE WAS NEVER DIAGNOSED WITH ANYTHING except “mental retardation”. The doctors at the time were the ones suffering from mental retardation. They didn’t know what to do with him, they didn’t know what the hell was going on so he NEVER got the benefit of treatment that could have at least helped him function better. He was on the beginning of the rise of autism. Keep pounding this drum and keep pounding down the idiots who mock parents that have a lifelong road of care ahead of them. It is completely unjust and unfair to require parents to give their kids toxic shots that can cause damage. It is a major, major hammer on a family.
It’s hard to change habits of a lifetime. We are taught to listen with our ears; and don’t question it, yet what we listen TO is the knowledge that humans currently have knowledge of. When you take away the ears, what you’re left with is your heart (your gut feeling), the place of feeling as opposed to thinking. The mind is complex and has dualism – it can, and will, rationalize anything: just look at the state humans have created upon Earth and within themselves – what other species does this to it’s own, or others? Human are an insane and sick species. Emily, you listened to your heart when you felt it. You questioned why you felt as you did. The fact you gave in to ‘pressure’ and went ahead with the vaccination will serve as a valuable lesson for you, and by sharing your experience, others too will benefit. You have gained further knowledge from your experience and I assume strength too. Please be kind to yourself. There are no mistakes, just lessons to learn from. When we listen to gut feeling, we listen to our heart. It can not rationalize as it is pure love only. It’s purpose is to guide with love. <3
Go to YouTube “doom with a view investigates explosive the real reason holistic doctors are being killed it has 429000 shares on Facebook apparently they found 85% cure for autism and it is the vaccines that cause it
“ProfessorTMR” I and the rest of the sane world will keep saying it. You’re clearly not a very bright person I can tell you have poor logic skills. Here’s the biggest problem with your argument. Autism like most cognitive disorders become observable when the child is expected to begin using cognitive and social skills. That’s always after 2 years old which happens to be the time kids get vaccinated. It’s pretty simple. Parents are just upset when they face the reality that their kid suffers from a disorder and blaming it on something somewhat rationalizes that bad feeling. Plus autism is a highly suspect disorder. In fact, on average children diagnosed with autism at 2 go on to be undiagnosed at 7 nearly 70%. There are very few cases where someone actually has autism. These people are in the extremes like they can’t live without the help of others. All the other diagnoses are perfectly normal people who just happen to be the classic nerds with few friends. Autism was diagnosed in the 70s mainly mainly because doctors and parents wanted to give a medical label for anti social geeks to make them feel less bad about why no one likes them. I find how many parents who describe their “vaccinated autistic” kids to be ridiculous. Most of them have some story about how a dr have them a shot and then within minutes their baby became “damaged”. These are some disgusting parents who should have more respect for their kids. Damaged? No they’re not damaged, they were just born with an abnormality. It actually indicates to me that it might have something to do with parents who give their kids autism. Also it’s simply impossible one turns “autistic” or abnormal permanantly a few minutes after getting vaccinated. No doctor has ever witnessed such a thing. That’s not how the human body operates. People have bad reactions but it’s nothing permant or “autism”.
I would reccomend many of you people to start educating yourselves more and try buying a logic book. You will soon become scared about how retarded you were.
Wow! You can really shovel some shit, Mike! I’m impressed! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
I’m just going to give you a rundown on the academic career of the person you’ve labeled “not very bright” with “poor logic skills.” I was the second of 400 in my high school class (band, art, and chorus brought my average down). I received a prestigious scholarship to Williams College. Maybe you’ve never heard of it, but Forbes says it’s the number 1 college in the country. I had so much Advanced Placement credit that I had a year’s worth of credit before I even got there. So I got my Physics degree in three years. I had published a paper in Electrical Engineering before I even graduated and went on to do some more engineering after I graduated. Before that, though, I took the Graduate Record Exam in case I wanted to go to Harvard and study astronomy. I got 800s on the math AND logic sections. In case you’re not familiar with those exams, those are perfect scores. I think it’s pretty likely that if you ever took it, you didn’t come close.
Everything else in your entire comment is utter nonsense. Children who experienced regressions following a round of vaccines didn’t have autism before that because you said so. And, yeah, shockingly enough, when those children develop a disorder they didn’t have, they often are upset.
Please do yourself a favor and watch some of the videos at HearThisWell.org. Learn about the many people with “real autism” who are far from “classic nerds.”
There is absolutely zero evidence to support your statement that 70% of children diagnosed with autism at two lose their diagnosis by the age of seven. As a matter of fact, most so-called “experts” STILL claim it is a “lifelong” conditon that you cannot outgrow or “cure,” despite the fact that those expectations were blown out of the water by a recent study that showed 9% of participants had lost their diagnosis by adulthoold. Yes, that was mind-blowing news to none other than Thomas Insel, head of the National Institute of Mental Health and the Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee until last week. But it wasn’t mind-blowing at all to us. Want to know why? Because we KNOW the parents of many of those children, and we know how they got their children to a point where they no longer had a diagnosis, and it wasn’t by twiddling their thumbs and waiting for them to grow up.
The rest of your comment contains just about as much sense or truth as the parts I have already commented on. Frankly, it would be nice if any of it were true, but wishing doesn’t change the facts. And fortunately for you, I don’t call people names, nor do I use the word “retarded” as an insult. Good day to you, sir.
I didn’t mean to say they outgrow autism. Instead, what I meant to say is that there is overdiagnosis of autism. It’s basically a diagnosis of a really weird kid that kind of creeps everyone out but no condition can be identified. It’s not that hard to figure out. Just look at the millions of people who are vaccinated and the millions who are not. Look to see what percent of autism exists in each group. This has been answered for you by countless studies and the answer is that there is no difference. Since you apparently have great logic skills you should realize that this is a case of logic 101 correlation doesn’t neccesarily indicate causation.
Ah, you’re in the “they’re overdiagnosing” camp! Because there are SO many people eager to embrace “disability” for their children that they rush to get them an autism diagnosis by two! (Interestingly, that doesn’t line up with the many, many people I know who have very affected children who had to beg and plead for a referral for an evaluation and finally managed to get a diagnosis by four or five — the average age of diagnosis.) And, yet, those “overdiagnosed” DON’T lose that diagnosis by seven. So you just felt like making crap up to make your argument and thought we wouldn’t catch it? Not gonna happen.
And, yes, we would VERY MUCH like a study that compares autism rates in the completely vaccinated vs. the completely unvaccinated. Only problem is it doesn’t exist. NOT ONE SINGLE ONE. Those “countless studies” you talk about? I challenge you to find ONE. Just one. I’ll ease the criteria. You can give me one that studies the fully vaccinated vs. fully unvaccinated with just ONE vaccine. The only thing that’s ever come close is Generation Zero of the Verstraeten study on Thimerosal exposure. In his first two analyses he compared the children with the highest early exposures against the children with zero early exposures. Guess what he found? Rates of neurological conditions were many times higher in the exposed population. Surprised? Yeah, that’s because the study wasn’t published until they could figure out a way to massage the numbers into insignificance. That took four years. It’s only because of Freedom of Information Act requestst that we have that information. Of course, the data is SUPPOSED to be public so that the study could be reproducible, but no… you’d be amazed at how cleverly they’ve hidden it away.
(By the say, you’re saying that there is no correlation, so the whole “correlation doesn’t necessarily indicate causation” is completely inappropriate with your argument, poor as it is. Sorry, improper use of buzzwords.)
maybe your “great logic skills” assuming you had any, might allow you to distinguish between a “weird” kid and a severely handicapped child who is still non-verbal, in diapers and having daily seizures in his teens
“Just look at the millions of people who are vaccinated and the millions who are not. Look to see what percent of autism exists in each group”- what a brilliant idea! as if no one has ever thought of it before!! it’s just that no one has ever done the research.
you’d have to compare like kinds- millions of vaccinated middle class suburban white kids with millions of un-vaccinated middle class suburban white kids to factor out difference in race, socioeconomic status, nutritional support, environmental toxin exposure, etc. if you know where there are “millions” of such children, please let us all know where they are hiding.
There are enough unvaccinated children in a number of communities that could be used as controls. Of course, families who do not vaccinate usually tend to do other things that are more likely to result in healthy children, so those factors would have to be taken into account. As would the fact that many unvaccinated children are younger siblings of children on the autism spectrum and are, therefore, at greater risk of autism in the first place. In any event, there is no interest on the part of the CDC or NIH to actually DO such research.
i’m sure you are right but my argument with mike is that he carries on as if such a study is A) easy and B) has already been done and was conclusive. ultimately, no one will do that study because the people/ institutions who could fund it don’t really want to know
I know, but it’s clear that Mike doesn’t have a clue at all. If he did, he’d know that the ONE thing that this community has asked for more than anything else is a large vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study and the fact that none exists was admitted by Coleen Boyle of the CDC at a Congressional hearing a few years ago.
I was going to tear your logical fallacies apart, Mike. But you just got owned by the good Doctor. Really bro. Stop typing. You’re just embarrassing yourself.
The science proves you wrong. Autism is brain damage caused by immune activation. Even the specific cytokine that causes the damage is known: interleukin-6.
IL-6 is stimulated by adverse vaccine reactions and aluminum (a toxic ingredient in most vaccines).
The studies on vaccines and autism fail to disprove vaccines as a cause, because:
1) they only look at MMR; no other vaccines have been studied.
2) they have a severe problem with reverse causality bias, which undermines all the results.
The science overwhelmingly implicated vaccines as the major cause of autism.
The idea that autism has always been with us is wrong because there are few autistics of age about 30 or greater. The older generations of autistics dont exist.
You can read the science on immune activation here: http://vaccinepapers.org/immune-activation/
Are you kidding? It’s common sense just look at the people vaccinated v not vaccinated and compare the rates of autism. The aluminum in vaccines is insignificant, children naturally are exposed to much higher amounts.
As I said in another comment, we’d LOVE to look at the vaccinated vs. not vaccinated and compare autism rates. Intuitively obvious, is it not? Why then, do you suppose that there are NO studies comparing that? Hmmmmm… things that make you think.
Aluminum is used in vaccines in order to provoke an immune system response to the antigens that are injected with it. That aluminum (unlike that which is ingested through the mouth, high levels of which, by the way, is highly correlated with Alzheimer’s — another neurological disorder) stimulates immune responses to whatever in injected at the same time and even the antibodies that are supposed to be stimulated can cross-react with the body’s tissues causing autoimmune conditions. Lucija Tomjlenovic, Ph.D. discusses how dangerous this is. For instance, they studied cross-reactivity of HPV antibodies with brain tissue. The antibodies bound to brain tissue. What do you suppose happens if there are high levels of antibodies and low-to-zero levels of HPV in the blood? Those antibodies are going to go after what’s available, brain tissue. I can’t see anything going wrong in this scenario, can you?
Mike, do you work for big pharma by any chance? Or maybe for the AMA? It is amazing the amount of platitudes and nonsense you keep throwing around. ProfessorTMR and others are giving you real links to read. And you keep stating things like “This has been answered for you by countless studies and the answer is that there is no difference.” with absolutely no links to the studies. You are basically clueless and completely unwilling to even think by yourself. My guess is that your only source of knowledge is what newspapers state in big headlines and never even bothered reading the studies or any study at all…
If I take my son in to the doctors and he is walking, jumping, laughing, talking, telling me he loves me, looking in my eyes with a twinkle, and he gets 1 vaccine, or maybe 5 vaccines, or maybe 7, or maybe 9 vaccines in one visit, screams all night, pitches a 105 fever and then never talks again, or looks in my eyes again and bangs his head against the way, then we can conclude it was the vaccines. You don’t need formal logic to understand this. If you get hit by a car, then scream and die, the car killed you. Or was it just a coincidence that the car hit you? Like it was just a coincidence that all the babies who died following mass vaccination have black kidneys from too many toxins?
THAT.Was.perfect!!!!!.
Mike, when you have proof that people are not injured by substances that are put into vaccines, then you can say you know. When you have a child or other relative who was completely normal and was not after the vaccine, then you can say you thought you knew. The last time I got a tetnus shot I had to sign a piece of paper stating that I knew getting the shot could kill me!!!!! I wonder why everyone is not signing that paper? or are they?
This is a comment from I suppose a socially appropriate Jerk. How dare you believe that these are just antisocial geeks. That is a very ignorant statement in itself.
Because obviously Mike thinks of Autism as only those cute and lovable nerdy Aspie types and has never met the autism kids and adults who have minimal or no speech, can’t write, are in diapers, stim and pace, have sensory issues, scream and cry etc.
It seems very unlikely the vaccine causes your son autism. Instead what likely happened was he had a bad reaction to the shot, very common, and because of his autism he got anxious went into shock and reversed his speech. He will probably lose his speech throughout life anytime he is exposed to enough stress. In anything your story opposes vaccines being the cause of autism. This might explain why parents of babies start noticing strange symptoms from babies right after shots. This, means your baby had autism before you have any shots.
Sure, you keep telling yourself that despite the HUGE rise in autism that “coincidentally” tracks the HUGE rise in vaccines. Of course, “your baby had autism before you have any shots.” All babies do, we just don’t “notice” until AFTER the shots.
The science is much stronger than that. Science has proven that autism is the result of immune activation, and interleukin-6 specifically. Read the science here:
http://vaccinepapers.org/part-1-immune-activation-autism/
None of these studies from the link you sent prove anything involving vaccines and autism. In fact, the Vargas study Vargas himself said he was concerned people will make a big deal about vaccines and it has nothing to do with that. All the other studies are patently flawed, lies, or like Vargas’ study misused.
“While many different combinations of genetic traits can cause autism, brains affected by autism share a pattern of ramped-up immune responses, an analysis of data from autopsied human brains reveals. The study, a collaborative effort between Johns Hopkins and the University of Alabama at Birmingham, included data from 72 autism and control brains. It was published online today in the journal Nature Communications.” http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/brain_inflammation_a_hallmark_of_autism_large_scale_analysis_shows
Keep reading, Mike. Evidence abounds that immune response is highly related to autism, and what do most children encounter that stimulates immune response? Vaccines.
Yes, “coincidentally” my son was speaking in three word phrases, problem solving, playing imagination games, and hitting milestones ahead of time. Then he had the MMR. He spent most of his life between the ages of 2 1/2 and 11 years old in speech therapy after that. People make fun of “anecdotal” evidence. I say you have to be blind, deaf, and dumb to ignore the massive amounts of “anecdotal” evidence, and I will accept those “anecdotes” any day over any of your so called scientific studies. Why, you ask? Because NO ONE IS PAYING US to tell our stories. We have nothing to gain by putting our stories out there for people to mock and belittle. All we care about is if we can help prevent even one more child from going through what our child went through. That’s it. And Mike, if you are reading this, I don’t care what you think of my intelligence. I don’t care what you think of my education. Name calling is the classic resort of those who have no facts to back them up, every single discussion I have ever had about vaccinating ends in the person supporting vaccines screaming things like, “you are stupid! I hope your kids DIE!” and so on. THAT, my friend, is uneducated behavior.
Just wanted parents of vaccine injured to look at science on mitochondrial diseases and the relationship between pesticides and EPIGENETIC (generational) mitochondrial DNA damage. Then research mitochondrial DNA and what and how it works in our bodies detoxifying system. Basically I see a generation of children with Epigenetic damage to their mitochondrial DNA therefore they cannot properly detoxify or utilize or methylate vitamins properly….then when our environment of pesticide ridden foods, antibiotics, flame retardents, mercury amalgam fillings and yes VACCINES are introduced their bodies are toxic and their brains and guts are inflamed…help your kids…add in good vitamins, whole organic foods and avoid refined chemically ridden food and furniture and toys. It worked for my son maybe could work for yours…definitely worth the effort.
Its proven that immune activation and brain inflammation causes autism. The science shows that brain damage and autism from vaccines should be expected.
http://vaccinepapers.org/part-1-immune-activation-autism/
Not what I’ve read. It has been shown to be a genetic condition. It may also be because of some toxin exposure during pregnancy. Whatever it is, it’s more than likely a condition at birth. No vaccine or anything else is likely to cause it.
You clearly haven’t read much on the subject. Most studies being done are showing that autism is about 50% genetic and 50% environmental. The most likely explanation is that someone inherits one or more of several mutations that make detoxification difficult — at any time not just during pregnancy — and then receives environmental insults that are difficult to recover from due to inability to detoxify. Those insults may tip a child over into autism before birth, or even long afterward. Eric Gladen received a tetanus shot in an emergency room on his 29th birthday. What followed was eerily similar to what many parents report happened to their children after similar shots. (His story is chronicled in the film Trace Amounts. I highly recommend it.)
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2011/07/non-genetic-factors-play-surprisingly-large-role-in-determining-autism-says-study-by-group.html
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1866100
http://www.medicaldaily.com/autism-caused-environment-just-much-genes-scientists-say-280122
https://publichealthwatch.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/autism-risk-mostly-genetic-according-to-new-study/
Even the “mostly genetic” study says that autism is about 55% genetic. A recent study showed that autism diagnoses were twice as high in boys who had been circumcised than boys who hadn’t. If the study is correct, that fact alone implies that autism cannot be considered “a genetic condition,” nor does it necessarily exist at birth, caused by “some toxin exposure during pregnancy.”
spoken by someone who has obviously never seen a vaccine reaction in a child. guess what? i haven’t either. i don’t have children. but i know enough to shut my mouth and no question the experience of those who do!
you’re probably one of those guys who thinks he knows all about “legitimate rape.”
Lol Mike a genetic condition…well I have two kids with that genetic condition of diagnosed severe autism. One child is now CURED!! She is so well now that no one can tell she was ever autistic, yet she was in special autistic schools for years before recovering. My son is not yet recovered but he has an IQ of 116 yet cannot tell a simple story or relate what happened to him at any point in the past. Now tell me, how does one recover from a genetic condition?
Oh my goodness. This is the most ignorant, obnoxious statement, completely lacking in compassion, I’ve ever read. The audacity of anyone to make such ridiculous, trite, dismissive remarks is astounding.
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/index.html
Thank you for sharing your story. I am so sorry that your son had to go through such a regression. As a mom, I can understand how we can be upset with ourselves for giving in to any vaccine when we previously had a gut feeling that maybe we shouldn’t. My son received a Td (Tetanus Toxoid) shot at 12 years old and several months later began having arm stiffness and eye tics (plus other tic like symptoms). The only shots he had been given before this were a few shots at birth and then I stopped having him vaccinated because I didn’t feel comfortable with the safety of vaccines. He didn’t have any health issues, so when he got a cut at 12 years old and I took him to the doctors, I figured he was old enough that he would be safe from any neurological side affects. Exactly one week after his Td shot he had a reaction at the site of the shot….red bumps that turned into one big raised, red hive/rash. Then sometime later that year he began to develop tics. I am wondering how many older kids have developed tics after shots? I also wonder if I can connect the tics to the shots since I didn’t notice this until several months later? He is now 14 and the tics are not as noticeable but I still see the eye tic some times.
It depends on the exact Td shot he received, but it’s quite possible a DIRECT line can be drawn from the Td shot to his tics. Take a look at the ingredients on this vaccine excipient table for Td vaccines:http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf Two of them contain thimerosal, and one does NOT say “Trace.” That means there is a full dose in the vaccine. William Thompson, known as the “CDC whistleblower” has come out saying that his own research at the CDC made it clear that thimerosal causes tics. http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-whistle-blower-mercury-in-vaccines-given-to-pregnant-women-causes-autism/
You should file a VAERS report and consider filing a claim for compensation.
Thank you. I have the manufacturer and lot# and the manufacturer isn’t listed on the link you shared. Do you know where I can track a vaccine? Is there a website? I have tried searching on the internet but didn’t have any luck. I’m not interested in filing a claim. I just want to know the ingredients in the vaccine he had so I can protect my son from further vaccinations. His doctor said he would only be exempt from the Td but I do not want to risk injury from any vaccine containing ingredients that could cause him a flare up of what he’s already experienced.
“His doctor said he would only be exempt from the Td…” THAT is an attitude that HAS to be challenged. Once a child has had a reaction to any vaccine, the tendency for further reactions to any vaccine INCREASES. It should be up to you (and later your son) whether a particular vaccine is worth the risk to him. Sorry for the diversion. This subject gets me all hot and bothered.
I am not aware of any place where you can track a vaccine. I would check with the manufacturer and see if you can get them to give you an ingredient list for that lot#. Sometimes a vaccine manufactured by one company is marketed through another. They may be able to tell you that “Oh, that was made by ____________” or “”Oh, yeah, that one’s marketed through __________” thereby making it easier.
My two previously completely unvaxxed children were force vaxxed without parental consent by a nurse during routine sports physicals at ages 12 and 14. (She “caught them up” with 39 doses each.) I actually did not find out for a year. Immediately following those physicals, they developed tics. In my 12 year old son’s case, they were severe and accompanied by OCD behaviors. I could not figure out what on earth was going on. A year later, their school called me, ordering me to get boosters before they would be admitted back into school. That is how I found out they had been given shots without mine or their father’s knowledge. Not sure why the kids didn’t tell us. However, they are fully educated now and it will never happen again. Not to mention their personal experience.
We have MTHFR in our family and none of us vaccinate. The family members who started vaxxing their kids all experienced serious adverse reactions and stopped. So in answer to your question, in my experience, YES, vaccines can cause tics in older children.
Did you sue the school? Or had you mistakenly signed off permission for treatments at the school? I am seeing more and more that parents need to “opt out” rather than “opt in.”
That is horrifying, Sarah, and something I live in fear of. My son has autistic tendencies. However, he was adopted at the age of 6 months from Ethiopia and had Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD) from neglect in his first months of life. RAD kids show autistic-like characteristics so I’ll never know if he has these tendencies due to the RAD or due to the vaccines he received at the orphanage. I am terrified of the very scenario you have just described so I have counselled him at least once a year that he is NEVER to let someone give him an injection without my permission. The possibility of the vaccines being part of his issues is just too great to chance ever again. He and his brother (another adoption from Haiti) have not been vaccinated since their adoptions and both are physically very healthy children. Surely the forced vaccinations of your children warrant a lawsuit?
Everything you need to know about vaccinations and autism can be found right here:
http://ernestlmartin.com/vaccinationsautism.htm
Everything you need to know about vaccinations and autism can be found right here:
http://ernestlmartin.com/vaccinationsautism.htm
I’m writing from the UK. My children had minimal childhood vaccines – the younger two none at all – after reading up about it all. My sister believed the opposite. All her children were vaccinated over and over again – all the recommended vaccines PLUS yearly influenza shots, far more than was ever needed, almost fanatically so. The utterly tragic thing is that in their teens, all her children have been diagnosed with serious auto-immune diseases: Type 1 Diabetes plus Hashimoto’s. We couldn’t have predicted this, nor would we have wanted to. It is desperate to see these bright beautiful youngsters being hospitalised several times a year, sometimes at the point of death. Now aged 23, 20 and 16, they have lives full of serious illness ahead of them and a bad prognosis. Anti-vax websites point to vaccines as being major causes of auto-immune diseases. There’s enough evidence out there – you just have to dig for it. Don’t vaccinate your kids, people!!!! Support their immune systems with good food, lots of veg and fruit, no sugar, no junk. You’ll be amazed at how healthy they naturally are.
Oh, Mary. My heart sunk reading your post. Thank you for sharing your story and your sister’s story. I hope it will save the health of at least a few youngsters.
Me too. My sister’s family are being told it’s all genetic. There may well be a genetic component, tipped over by overloading the immune system with vaccines. There’s a lot of auto-immune disease in our family (thyroid, MS, food allergies) but generally it’s been manageable in the older members of the family who have had fewer or no vaccinations. My niece was hospitalised (again) over the weekend; my nephew nearly died a month ago; my other niece is seriously unwell as I write this. It’s an utter tragedy.
My own children are roughly the same age and healthy. They’ve had chicken pox and rubella and measles and mumps naturally (to the surprise of the health authorities). My youngest aged 13 recently had pertussis, treated with antibiotics and then homeopathy to clear up the lingering cough (very successfully). I was told by our doctor that the pertussis vaccine is only effective in about 70% of cases… Having seen pertussis in action it is a very nasty cough and obviously dangerous for small children and babies – people have to make their own decisions on the level of risk they feel comfortable with – but it wasn’t dangerous for my teen. But the basic building blocks of immunity are good food, no sugar, lots of fresh air and exercise. Old-fashioned but true.
It’s not just anti-vax sites that point to vaccines as being a major cause of auto-immune disease. Pubmed is full of research linking vaccines to autoimmune disease. Search ‘adjuvant induced autoimmune disease’ also called ASIA (Autoimmune syndrome induced by adjuvants).
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Thank you for sharing. All people have the responsibility to share and prevent as much as possible the experiences they have had to others. My heart breaks for William and rejoiced that out of the darkness he recovered a chunk of his speech. Mom tuition is to be listened too and the importance of researching all sides of an issue are key. Thank you again and blessings to your family.
Brings new meaning to “the meek shall inherit the earth”.
My sons never been vaccinated and hes hardly ever been sic and never been hospitalized for any illnesses and is very healthy my mom did the research when i was pregnant with my son and then i did it and decided no vaccines for him when i was lil my mom did the spacing of vaccines and i got my mmr at 4 and right after my mmr i started having seizures and then 2 months later i was diagnosed with a seizure disorder known as epilepsy and ill suffer with it for the rest of my life i will never vaccinate plus theres all the alternative medicines out there that could do more good then any vaccine could and are safe and not harmful like silverwater known as colloidal silver
Brittany, I`m so happy to hear the first section of your story, and so sad to hear of what you went through. YES, colloidal silver, is “brilliant” as it does not allow resistant strains of pathogens to evolve, like other antibiotics do. What Big Pharma won`t tell you (among volumes of other info`) is that the antibiotics they create are only able to work against 4 different types of pathogen. Colloidal silver, additionally, is transitional metal, of valance +2, this means it can replace metals of lower valance. I`ve posted all the information, here, previously regards Dr. Rebecca Carley, one of the first to get me interested in colloidal silver, who specializes in reversing vaccine induced illnesses. You`re probably very aware of her work. I`ve also previously posted, here, my research, on colloidal silver http://www.transformtofreedom.com/effects-of-silver/ I`ve been using colloidal/ionic & blended silver for some years now, and have not been so sick as to have to take a day off work, since. I`m so very happy this information is getting out! Regards, Elliot.
I have a similar story. At 5, all pediatricians inform parents their child is due for vaccinations at their well child check-up. I was sick for weeks knowing prior to my son’s appointment. We had had 3 years of bringing our son out of his “daze” with occupational therapy, speech therapy, head start, etc. after he froze up from receiving his 15 mo. vacs at 18 mos. old. At that time he went from a running, smiling, talking, engaging child to bland looks, stiff, a herd of elephants could run right in front of him and act deaf and blind. (Now he has high functioning aspbergers.) I just couldn’t go back to that!!!!!!! Bless my doctors!!!! She suggested to see if he even needs them. We did and low and behold, my son is naturally immuned to measles, mumps, rubella, and polio!!!!! His poor body!!!! I have 4 children and my other 3 aren’t naturally immuned and they receive their vacs, but not all that is out there. I’ve always been against chicken pox, Hep A/B, flu, HPV, and whatever nonsense vacs that children shouldn’t be vaccinated for since we don’t live in a 3rd world country, my children aren’t junkies and aren’t having sex! Plus, if a woman hasn’t had chicken pox and she’s pregnant and comes in contact w/the chicken pox/shingles virus, she has the risk of miscarriage! But if she has had it, all is well. 🙂 So, ask to check if your child is naturally immuned first!!! Love my aspie!! He sees and says things so differently. It’s hard work each and every day to keep him from regressing, but he gives us such joy that words can’t express. We are truly bless! 🙂
Most doctors aren’t as sympathetic as yours, your lucky to have a doctor with compassion. How does one check for natural immunities?
Tics: I am desperate to find help for my son who developed tics from vaccines. We have done IV chelation with great results and homeopathy. He is now 20 and has a coughing tic which has become very severe and debilitating. In Bay Area of California.
So glad I listened to my gut and insisted the shots be spread out. Doctor literally laughed at me. Told me I would have to pay for another doctor visit. Wish I would have had the nerve to decline all vaccines. Not much info back then. Thanks for all your posts and any help you can offer.
http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/brochures/Tourette's,%20Tics%20&%20OCD.pdf
Journal of Immunotoxicology, January-March 2011, Vol. 8, No. 1 , Pages 68-79
Helen V. Ratajczak, PhD
Autism, a member of the pervasive developmental disorders (PDDs), has been increasing dramatically since its description by Leo Kanner in 1943. First estimated to occur in 4 to 5 per 10,000 children, the incidence of autism is now 1 per 110 in the United States, and 1 per 64 in the United Kingdom, with similar incidences throughout the world. Searching information from 1943 to the present in PubMed and Ovid Medline databases, this review summarizes results that correlate the timing of changes in incidence with environmental changes. Autism could result from more than one cause, with different manifestations in different individuals that share common symptoms. Documented causes of autism include genetic mutations and/or deletions, viral infections, and encephalitis following vaccination. Therefore, autism is the result of genetic defects and/or inflammation of the brain. The inflammation could be caused by a defective placenta, immature blood-brain barrier, the immune response of the mother to infection while pregnant, a premature birth, encephalitis in the child after birth, or a toxic environment.
Expand on that- “toxic environment” why don’t they? Glyphosate possibly?
Kindly explain what effect formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum etc have on the brain and CNS looking up ingredients of vaccines I have found that these substances are in the vaccines, thankyou.
The MO of most vaccines is to force the immune system to respond to a dead virus. Thats why they put toxins/metals in. To force that response. The immune system reacts, as it always does, with inflammation…which *could* occur in the brain.
When my some got the DTaP at 18 months he ended up with a severe soft tissue infection on his thigh. It was about the size of a tennis ball. I wanted to opt him out of all vaccines but all his doctors said he wouldn’t be allowed in school and I would get into a lot of trouble. For his twelve month I told his dr then I do not want him having the chicken pox vaccine. She did it without my knowledge after she said we’ll wait until his 18 months. I was furious. Then this year he was forced to have a flu shot. He is now 2 and will NOT be receiving anymore vaccines. I was forced to get the flu shop, tetonus shot, and the hpv vaccine. My arm was sore for a week. Screw vaccines. They do more damage than good
Very sorry that it had to be such a painful realisation for both you and your son, but you get it now. Unfortunately so many others with vaccine damage staring them right in the face still believe the makers(of vaccines and money) and the CDC and the government. Work hard with your son. You can make a big difference as Wakefield and The Thinking Mums Revolution have proven many times. Sad part is that those with the power still believe in the ‘vaccine regime’.
Sad part is, you are right. My mother is a firm believer in vaccinations and putting young children on ADHD meds, ODD meds, and anti-depressants.
Nikki, why were you “forced” to get the hpv vaccine after having a child? You should take it before ever having sex…. Also, no vaccines are required. You either have to vaccinate OR fill out an exemption.
I told them I didn’t want it and they said I “had” to get all those vaccines. Same for my son.
I do not vaccinate my children. My mom is an RN and was very pro vaccine until she began to see and read research that changed her mind. Because of her I did my research and was not comfortable injecting known carcinogens and toxins into my children. Polio was the only one I considered because polio is no joke but then I found out the oral polio vaccine they used to use when I was a child–that they told my mother was safe– had the nasty habit of CAUSING polio in kids. Oops! They say vaccines are safe now but they said they were safe then too. But even though I didn’t vaxx my kids I got a booster shot for myself and developed an auto immune disorder. Doc says it isn’t from the shot but how ironic my condition started when I got the shot? I also personally know a young woman, a nurse, who died this year after the flu shot. People can believe what they want but I know for me and my family we will NEVER consent to forcible vaccination. On my phone so please excuse any typos!
Thank you for sharing your story. That was a brave thing to do. I see both sides from where I stand. My mother had polio as a child and suffers with life long consequences. For many years I was very pro vaccine. And then I entered the world of public education. I see children who were developing normally until those 2 year old vaccines. Like a light switch was flipped, they changed.
Yes, vaccine companies believe they have a safe product. Safe for children with a healthy immune system. What about those of us with autoimmune disorders and otherwise compromised immune systems? We react differently to many things: foods, pesticides, paint. What research has been done in regard to this and vaccinations? My children will not receive another vaccine…ever. Even if I have to quit my job and homeschool them. As adults, they can choose for themselves, but I believe it is a personal choice to be made by each individual, not mandated by the government.
I disagree that vaccine makers think they have a safe product. I do not think they care. They answer to stock holders not customers (our kids) not drug pushers (CDC, FDA, and your doctor). They are looking to expand their markets not shrink them. If they had vaccines that were safe and did prevent disease they would lose customers in the long run. Instead we have 70% of our citizens on RX meds. They aim to increase that. They are not looking for the cure. They are looking for profits and as they are now pushing for more adult vaccines they will then have a captive audience of 390 million Americans that by law are forced in order to go to school or work, who cannot opt out, and then they are protected from liability by the federal government. So what do they have to lose by having an unsafe product? Nothing. Only you and I do.
But also, vaccines OR exemptions are required for school. You can easily get into school without vaccines.
Bravo
I don’t vaccinate my children, they are 22 and 17. But there has been a huge shift recently. I was just denied employment for a per diem job because I cannot get vaccinated. I have a serious allergy to eggs and had an anaphylactic reaction as a child to vaccines. Things are getting worse. I live in NY. I am truly sorry that you experienced all that you have. I am thankful that you are sharing your story. We must all stand together, we will need each other as the pharmaceutical companies are going full blast and using the media to spread fear. Peace to all of you!!
Indeed, Mary. This is not just about sick children.
You guys don’t know what you are talking about. I had a cousin who die from polo because her parents did not get her vaccinated. All of older people that have had our vaccination we don’t have autisum. People just like to label every thing and try to blame it on someone. I know people whose father did meth when the mother got PG. Why don’t you blame these thing on that, smoking and drinking while PG. I have had a flue shot every year and never get sick. Waite until you get shingle because you were not vaccinated. Anyone who has had chicken pocks has that in their system. If you don’t want to vaccinate then home school your kids. Why should you have the right to endanger other children or a PG mothers. If a PG mother is exposed to chicken pocks their baby can die or have deformities.
Actually, Sharon, you can get shingles if you were vaccinated for chicken pox. If you’ve been vaccinated, you HAVE chicken pox in your system. As a matter of fact, shingles was rare in children UNTIL the chicken pox vaccine.
There has been a big out break of chicken pox this year. Even children dieing. Yes you can still get shingles after the shot but you won’t get them half as bad as without. If you ever get them you will change your mind real soon.One of my friends had it so bad it was in his eyes. My mother had them so pad she had to take morphine for the pain. Until you have had them you can’t talk . My kids all had them and they are fine. Some of these things ADHD are hereditary. It does’s come from a shot. I sure don’t won’t my grandkids to get chicken pox because of neg. parents. KEEP THE KIDS AT HOME. How would you feel if some child died because of you neg. You people are sick in the head.
I HAVE had shingles. Extremely mild case, as a matter of fact. One small patch of itchy bumps on my hip, but enough to give my son chicken pox, who in turn gave it to my daughter. While I have heard of horrific cases in vaccinated children. Sorry, mind SO not changed.
My daughter’s ADHD is ANYTHING but “hereditary.”
So . . . how do YOU feel knowing that people have died from vaccinating for illnesses that they were either unlikely to encounter or were unlikely to do them any harm, and many more are permanently disabled? And why should THOSE children have to suffer for your desire to avoid chicken pox? To paraphrase Carolann Liebelt, why should other people light their children on fire to keep yours warm?
Sharon, not only do you become more susceptible to shingles when you get the varicella vaccine, but because the varicella is a live vaccine, whoever gets the vaccine can actually spread chickenpox. The outbreak your area had may have actually been caused by someone who got the chickenpox (varicella) vaccine. THEN because it does not cause a full immune response…but just a few antibodies you are more likely to get shingles earlier on than if you had gotten chickenpox naturally. There are children and young adults getting shingles because they were vaccinated rather than contracting natural chickenpox…usually it happens MUCH later in life from natural contraction. I had chickenpox when I was 5 and barely remember it. I played outside, went sledding, and rode on snowmobiles with my parents. I got to watch a few special movies, be doted on by my mom, and stay home from kindergarten. I don’t remember it being terribly uncomfortable. So I have had it and can attest that it’s not a life threatening disease for most children with healthy diets and lifestyles. Sadly, it is life threatening for teenagers and adults…but that’s only because the vaccine wears off quickly and too many people have not had the natural infection to provide longer lifelong immunity…as so many generations were gifted with before the vaccines came on the scene to screw up TRUE herd immunity. That’s what you should be concerned about, not whether someone is vaccinated or not, but whether your family has a lifestyle that supports a healthy immune system naturally.
Chicken pox is very rarely life-threatening for ANYONE. My daughter had it as a teenager, and it was milder than her younger brother’s case. It is usually worse in older people, but that’s not saying a lot.
if vaccines work so well, then why are you at risk? Just because nothing has happened to you because of vaccines, doesn’t mean the same for everyone else. If someone doesn’t want the Mercury, formaldehyde, and other harmful ingredients in vaccines, then they shouldn’t have to. I never get the flu shot, and I never get the flu either, the flu shot isn’t even the actual strain of the flu that goes around because it changes so often. Believe me, vaccines can negatively people, because they definitely did me, and my parents have never done drugs, don’t drink, or anything like that… Look up all the cases of perfectly healthy kids that’s life suddenly are changed because they got a vaccine.
This opinion brought to you by the woman that can’t spell autism. I would hope that anyone doing their research on the topic wouldn’t take your post very seriously.
Just curious, how would you explain children going into convulsions in the doctors office after their jab?
Thanks and keep trying!
… or polio…. or flu… or wait… or pox…
Sigh.
I have a cousin who was permanently damaged from having Polio, after receiving the vaccination. Vaccines are NOT safe for everyone (if anyone). Since you think they’re great, good for you. Make sure you have all your boosters. I have a son with Autism. I most definitely NEVER smoked, used alcohol or so much as took a Tylenol while I was pregnant. You really should do your homework before posting its clear you don’t know what you are talking about. As for homeschooling kids, no problem mine are home schooled and test higher than the majority of regular Public school kids in California. Unfortunately due to people like you we are about to loose home school as an option for those who choose not to vaccinate. NO ONE should EVER be forced to inject something into a healthy body.
Both my husband and myself had shingles. There was no pain. I know people say that it is the worse pain but we had none. We do have a good diet and make sure we have enough sun in our life when we can get the D.
It is the children who get the shots who are able to pass on the problem. Cancer hospitals will let children who are not “protected” in for visits but not the ones with recent shots.
You are absolutely right. When the polo vaccine came out, I disobeyed my caregiver, signed her name to the release, stood in line and got my shot. At 70, I feel the vaccines are safe as they only affect children with low immune systems or a family history of autism.
Alice, you may “feel” they are safe, but that doesn’t actually mean anything about the safety level of any particular vaccine, does it? It certainly doesn’t mean anything to the many, many people with no family history of autism whose children are living lives with chronic illness now because they were hurt by vaccines. Perhaps they had “low immune systems” — whatever that means — but NO ONE ever ran any tests to find out the functioning of their children’s immune systems PRIOR to shooting them up on the day they were born with an absolutely unnecessary vaccine. Nor did they notice the signs of an immune system gone haywire before continuing to shoot them up with vaccines in numbers that you can’t even imagine. When the polio vaccine came out, the only other vaccines you would have had were smallpox as you were getting ready for kindergarten and possibly a DPT or two. Ever taken a look at today’s vaccine schedule? (Note how many of them happen in the first two to three years, when a child’s nervous system is developing rapidly. A time when you MIGHT have had ONE vaccine.) Did you know that the entire vaccine schedule has NEVER been tested for safety (to the point that any vaccines are tested for safety, which is not much at all)? Did you know that the combinations of vaccines that are recommended to be given have never been tested for safety either? What was the extreme health emergency that prompted all these untested additions to the vaccine schedule? Oh, that’s right there was none. Then why has there been such a rush to add to the already overloaded schedule? Because they can. Since 1986, vaccine manufacturers (with the help of the federal government) bear NO liability for any harm their vaccines do. So what do they care if they are harming children right and left? All the better! More lifelong customers!
Sharon….It is a proven fact that at least 5% of the population do not do well with pharmaceuticals, and that includes vaccines. There is a reason for the warning labels on all meds and that is because of those of us who do react, adversely. I, myself, reacted to the “new” oral Polio vaccine over 50 years ago, at age 13. I contracted Polio, just as many have over the past decades, from the vaccine. From that point on, I developed auto immune issues and have suffered, since my mid teens, with Hypothyroidism and now Hashimotos. My whole generation is riddled with Cancer and auto-immune diseases, but the younger generations are far worse off, with whole hospital wards full of children with Leukemia. This was unheard of when I was a child, but is commonplace today. We live in a terribly polluted world in every way, but the “Pharmaceutical world” is the worst part of it.
Oh silly woman. My neighbor’s child has had chicken pox three times and shingles before the age of 16, because those vaccinations work so darned well don’t they. They are completely current with their chicken pox shots, boosters and everything. I’m sorry but your logic of vaccines helping with this stuff is invalid.
I’m sorry I didn’t respond earlier to the “Why don’t you blame these thing (sic) on that, smoking and drinking while PG.” IF autism were strongly connected to doing meth, smoking or drinking of COURSE we would “blame it on those things.” The fact is, though, that “fully vaccinated” generation you were talking about — the ones that had MANY fewer vaccines with far fewer children being vaccinated or being vaccinated “on time” than we do today — did a LOT more smoking and drinking while pregnant than current generations. In my mother’s generation, EVERYONE smoked and thought nothing of doing so while pregnant. In addition, no one thought twice about having a cocktail or two while pregnant. Just watch what happens these days if people see a pregnant woman lighting up or ordering a margarita. As for doing meth, that would be a very easy correlation to see, autism would be prevalent in a very particular category of children and nowhere else. Autism does exist in that category, as do other mental, physical and emotional issues, but the vast majority of autism cases do not come from that population. So it would be more than a little ridiculous to “blame” a condition on an exposure people didn’t even have, wouldn’t it?
Emily and other parents read Yul s comment. All vaccines poison and autism can be ameliorated by 30-60 % it depends on the person through naturopathy and a bioresonnance machine like the Asyra that I have. it takes persistence (showing up),diligence (giving the detox in drop form) and the result is a detox of all tissues of the body where the mercury or other substances that the person is sensitive to and helps it clear. It it doable believe me and trust me. Even a good NAET practitioner can help. There are ways. i am available for advise for anyone. I am a mother with a premature child with a physical disability and have fought many battles with the medical corps and have been ignored. I am willing to help..just ask.
I don’t know what doctors are doing these days. I think they killing people instead of healing them. I’ve been in the last 4 years through 2 different kind of cancers and noticed a lot of neglect within the health industry.
However, as a child, I grew up in Croatia, and we were vaccinated for tuberculosis and chicken pox and polio. I had a school friend that got polio when she was small. She was lucky that she grew up being able to walk. It is a terrible disease. She also had other problems from getting Polio, warts on her hands, wobbly walk. If you get chicken pox as an adult, it can get so bad that you can die or cannot ever have children. So, I really don’t know what to say. I think it’s doctor’s neglect by not checking the child health history from birth, very through and through before giving the child vac. The child can always get it later on if there is some problem. I don’t think vac cause autism in general, but it could if the baby had certain condition, not bad but getting the vac. made the baby worse. For example if the babies immune system was not strong enough or some other thing like that, it could have happened. I really believe it’s the doctor’s responsibility to know all this before giving the vac. but in most cases they don’t unless they know that there was some problem at birth.
Doctors and hospitals are becoming a one way ticket. you go in and you don’t come out alive or sicker than before.
My Family going back 3 or more generations have never been vaccinated. I am 57, so when I had children, the Doctors would say you were an abusive parent. As young and hard as it was I stood my ground. Let them say what they will. Who Cares! My mother became a chiropractor and we rarely went to doctors. My children were rarely sick. I have a 26 year old Down Syndrome Daughter in Perfect Health. I do feed our family organic, no GMO’s or processed foods and have learned how to treat everything with essential oils and herbs to keep my family healthy. We haven’t been sick in years. Can’t say that for immunized families. They are always sick. But, the only thing I can say is as Parents, you Must Never Let Anyone Intimidate You. Please, trust that Inner Voice or Intuition. I bow down to No One. I Stand By My Knowledge, My Gut, My Intuition. Every immunization and drug they have can be lethal. It is common sense. Unfortunately, we have a Nation of indoctrinated unconscious people in this world who cannot think for themselves, but believe what they are told or were taught. Do your own Research. Make up your own mind. I realize that not following “Society” thinking is hard. But, to evolve, is to go your own path and have confidence in your Truth. I am a Warrior. We all are. You might have never stood up for Yourself, but You Have To Stand Up For Your Children and Their Safety. Immunization and stuffing medicine down children’s throats seems Crazy to me. I am deeply Empathetic for every heart wrenching story I read. May Light, Love and Healing Infuse Into Everyone Of Your Children. Serving and Caring for these Children will Build Grace into Your Life. I Honor You!
Beautiful, thank you for your post!
Thank you for this! Sometimes it’s hard standing up and it’s nice to know there are other people out there who will stand with you. 🙂
I want to thank you for sharing your story.I am so glad your son’s speech returned.I disagree with you about using a religious exemption Is lying..The ingredients In the vaccines are unethical and If you are pro-life that Is against anyone’s religion.I have two with Autism as well.I do blame the vaccines.Thank you again for sharing.
The CDC’s top autism-vaccine researcher Poul Thorsen who “proved” that vaccines and autism are not connected was indicted for fraud & money laundering related to his autism research. He is currently on the OIG’s Most Wanted Fugitives lists. His research has not been retracted or re-examined in light of his unethical and illegal scheme. Can we trust him as a source? http://www.justice.gov/usao/gan/press/2011/04-13-11.html
http://oig.hhs.gov/fraud/fugitives/profiles.asp
I liked your essay. I think a mother knows her children best. Here’s my 2 cents: How can autism be exclusively genetic when the rate in 1980 was roughly 1 in 10,000 and the rate today is roughly 1 in 100? If a child has a genetic predisposition to autism, then vaccines probably aggravate their immune systems into full-blown autism. But personally, I believe they aggravate the immune systems of healthy children. Have courage and keep searching for ways to heal your kids!
Ever thought to formulate alternative hypotheses? I hate the lights and smells in doctors’ offices, and “severely autistic” suggests he hates them even more. It’s traumatic enough to be treated like an object, but while your mom is watching? Fear of needles (that you clearly just brush off)? Combine it with an excellent memory, and he will be reliving that until he is over it.
Sadly, the only test I can think of is repeat the experience (complete with you going, “oh well, I did just let them jab a needle in his arm” like you are noting that it’s raining) with an empty needle and see if it has the same effect. It won’t, because he learned from that experience, but that is still the only test I can think of. He didn’t get “more autistic”, his symptoms worsened. There is a difference.
Wow. I’m just amazed at the number of people who seem to think that they understand what happened to this child better than his mother does. You know, the person who has lived with him his entire life, who has probably watched him go through trauma after trauma. Clearly, she doesn’t have a clue how her child would react to a particular stimulus. She wouldn’t have any idea when it is way beyond anything she could have expected based on her past experience of her child. /end sarcasm
She said she figured it was stress about having been stung with a needle. Then she said it was the chemicals in the vaccine. So let’s say she knows how he would react to particular stimulus; which time was she right?
It’s pretty obvious from the piece that if it had lasted for an evening (“Man, he is really pissed about that needle. He’ll be better in the morning.”), that it could have been stress, but as it wasn’t “an evening,” it was an entire school year, she knew it wasn’t the stress. That’s pretty straightforward.
You’re not reading the same article we just read. She said AT FIRST she thought it was just the needle and the lights but when he DID NOT get better much later than she realized it was more than just an uncomfortable situation.
I know an adult who had a vaccine reaction like this one. She was a believer in vaccinations and was actually going to get up to date because at that time she believed she should update her vaccinations to pass on immunity to her unborn children as she was gearing up to try to conceive. She got the MMR. She said it felt like her brain was on fire. She started freaking out. It took a long time for this “brain on fire” intense pain to wear off and when it did she was disoriented and confused. She even asked the nurse to give show her the pamphlet because she thought they gave her something else, not the vaccine. She later had four children and didn’t vaccinate them due, in part, to that experience. So, her adult perspective sounds similar to what happened to this boy and smaller children as well.
Vaccines cause brain inflammation, which is what causes autism.
The science has already shown that vaccines cause autism:
http://vaccinepapers.org/part-1-immune-activation-autism/
I am constantly haunted by the story about the young lady with autism who learned to type and began explaining the sensations that caused her to bang her head and scream and act out. She was in severe, constant pain…and trapped with no way to express herself and no relief. I then can’t help but feel like our society is creating thousands of these children each year, then denying that they exist or saying that there is no cause. That is BS. I know not all children with autism have such severe disorders, but enough are exhibiting these same behaviors at various levels of severity that it can’t be without reason. These children are actively suffering. It is criminal. Vaccines may not be the only cause, but it is known that adjuvants can often destroy nerves in the brain and cause any number of damages. We need to look at the ENTIRE vaccine schedule (they only “know” that individual vaccines are considered safe), each ingredient (it may not JUST be aluminum or mercury), and the people who’ve had injuries (to find a “genetic” factor that vaccines can trigger). Analyze it all, and STOP creating lifelong suffering in thousands of lives a year.
I know this isn’t even as close to as bad as what happened to your son, but I figured might as well share just in case it might help someone. When I was in 5th and 6th grade, I got the hpv vaccine or also known as gardasil. Most people know this vaccine has caused harm to tons of people, many had much worse harm than I did. Anyways you get multiple (3) Shots, one 2 months after and the next 6 months. About a week after the first one, I would just get random muscle spasms that I couldn’t control in my face arms and legs, at this point we didn’t know it was possibly the vaccine. So I continue getting these (it’s more of an annoyance at this point, not terrible to the point of me not being able to function). I went ahead and got the next shot and it kept getting worse (honestly I can’t remember if I received the last shot because after the second one made me get worse, my mom was sure it was the vaccine, but I may have.) so this keeps going on for about 8 months, random facial twitches and arm/leg twitches. My sister would sleep with me and said it would happen while i was sleeping to. A couple of people also mentioned it to my parents and a few people actually said stuff to me about it. I got multiple blood tests done, I got an eeg, went to multiple other doctors and none could truly pinpoint what was happening. My mom was pretty sure I had Tourette’s for a while, but you had to keep the ticks for like a year for it to be classified. The doctor couldn’t really give me a specific medicine so basically I just waited it out for about 8-9 months. Thankfully it slowly went away. Anyway I know this isn’t terrible, but it has happened to many people, and while it doesn’t prove autism, it does show that vaccines can harm people.
Thank you, Paige, for your testimony. It WILL help others.
I will not get the flue vaccines because I am slightly allergic to eggs (hives) and the vaccines are cultured in egg whites. The only one I ever had gave me a huge hive it was appr 5 inches long, 3 inches wide and itched like you wouldn’t believe. I also had the flue symptoms for 2 weeks. I told my Dr. that it intensified all the things I had no tolerances to. He told me it was my imagination….I had a post nasal drip that lasted a year I discovered scent intolerances to flowers, skin lotions, soaps anything flower scented caused sinus problems…after a year they all simmered down but I was very aware what set me off each time I had reactions to things. My husband no longer wore after shave if he wanted me to be around him….A couple of years ago I did the whooping cough vaccine and asked the pharmacist first to research if it was egg cultured. He called the company and was told no it was not…..but something in that vaccine affected my sinus and it took a year for it to settle down….I have been taking the Twinrex vaccine because I’m going south and wanted to be protected and I have had no adverse affect that I am aware of….but some of my family are really pressing me to get the shingles vaccine and I am hesitating whether or not to take it…..maybe I’ll get it after a year has passed from taking the Twinrex but only after researching to find out if it has egg culture….
Thanks for writing this – a lot of people simply think that if everyone reported the damage it would change things but the truth is that the doctors discount everything immediately and nothing ends up labelled as vaccine reaction. The stroke I had at age 27 after an unnecessary Hep B titre was passed off as a panic attack in the ER even though I had partial paralysis and symptoms that even 17 years later have not disappeared. The system is rigged to avoid lawsuits, and so reporting does no good. The doctors control what is reported as what, not us.
My blood runs cold when I read things like this. A STROKE passed off as a panic attack. *smh*
That’s not correct, anyone can report an adverse reaction to VAERS – just fill out the online form. If you don’t report it, it never happened (so to speak.) This is the link – https://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/step1
Its too bad they aren’t taken seriously.
Reporting is voluntary for patients and physicians. It is mandatory for drug companies so I recommend reporting it yourself and reporting it to the manufacturer.
Just checking, was it a Hep B titer or a Hep B booster or a scratch test to determine immunity (done when people don’t show properly on titer tests)?
A titer shouldn’t cause any issues, because they aren’t injecting anything, they are withdrawing blood. A scratch test for immunity CAN cause extremely severe reactions. My mom had one to an MMR scratch test. And of course, the booster can be a problem.
Emily you have done well , you can fix the autism in your boys they just need a heavy metal detox, vaccines are full of mercury they use the scientific terminology to baffle people with bullshit , my wife is a naturopath and has helped others clear thier kids of autism ! Don’t listen to all these negative people just stick to your guns and clear your kids of those heavy metals and they will come good again !!
http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/
I am a mom that vaccinated my daughter, I have a moderate form of autism. I did talk until I was 7. I have severe deslexia and other classic problems, I was not vaccinated as a child. I truly believe a reaction to vaccines is individual and an individual right. I respect all views because I think there is truth in both points. I pray for the pain of the families who lost children from these reactions. It is an innate feeling for a parent to protect their children at all costs, I have my ways and others have theirs but I will not degrade someone else’s views nor correct them because let’s face it, most if not all already have a set view point on this and many other topics that need to be nationally addressed.
Hi Emily. Thank you for your article. I to have and continue to be ostracized for my choice not to vaccinate my 4 year old son.when he received his 15 month shots I walk out of the room because they wanted to give him 9 different vaccinations. The doctor played on my husbands conscience and authorize them against my wishes. Immediately after he received his shots he had forgotten things that he had learned at a younger age. Everybody said it was my imagination. A few weeks later he began to scream and lose the inability to walk. He was diagnosed with Guillain Barre syndrome and went paralyzed from his feet to his neck. We almost lost him. I also detest lying but I have decided that if my religion needed to be specified I would use the word Catholic as it means universal church by definition and they believe as I do i that anything created with anything extracted from an aborted fetus is not OK. I am fortunate that at this time my state allows a philosophical and religious waiver.
For the love of good, read this book:http://www.abebooks.com/Healing-Symptoms-Known-Autism-2nd-Edition/18584024653/bd?cm_mmc=gmc-_-used-_-PLA-_-v01&product=COM9780989289047USED
Why is there no direct Reply button for any of @ProfessorTMR’s comments? Interesting. A few points that I simply can’t leave uncorrected. Freitag 2007 (“The genetics of autistic disorders […]” suggests that around 90% of autism cases have an entirely genetic explanation. Gardener, Spiegelman & Buka 2009 (“Prenatal risks factors for autism”) isolate various risks of other non-genetic factors, for instance the age of the parents. Nonetheless, these factors all affect the foetus in utero, i.e. before birth. To say that the hypothesis about genetic modifications in the womb is “completely non-proven” is simply factually incorrect. While I don’t doubt that the writer of this article knows her own children better than anyone else, I would question whether she (or any other parent) is in a position to make informed medical decisions about their wellbeing. The fact that both her sons are autistic plus the fact that their autism was documented long before the allegedly offending vaccine all seems to suggest a genetic factor.
Your comment about the “extremely remote risk of something catastrophic” is highly irresponsible. Perhaps you’d care to look at infant mortality rates in developing countries, statistics that include all countries in the world, not just those statistics that focus on the West, which I’ve seen bandied about anti-vaccination websites. Cherry-picking statistics doesn’t make your case any stronger. On the contrary. Regarding your contention that vaccines have “the potential to kill you or maim you for life” and this this is “undeniable”, I challenge you to present any concrete, verifiable, non-anecdotal evidence to support this claim.
The point about rights is also interesting. Everybody has rights, but one person’s rights stop when they impinge on someone else’s rights. You have the right to punch me in the face if you feel like it, but I have the right to expect you not to exercise that right. Parents may have the dubious right to make ill-informed choices for their children (hopefully not for much longer), but in that case they should sequester their children away from the general population – not take them to Disneyland.
As for the matter of “truth”: of course, have the right to share experiences and tell each other stories, but don’t use words like “truth” when what you’re dealing in is nothing but conjecture and supposition. Perhaps you think I’m overreacting, but by whipping up ill-informed hysteria, you put the wider population at increased risk of a variety of ailments, and that’s something I find very troubling.
Daniel, there is not “direct reply” button to comments on comments. If you’ll note yours don’t have them either. I don’t have some special “do not reply” profile.
Freitag is an outlier, as I’m sure you’re probably aware. Other studies have made it clear that autism is far less “heritable” than Freitag implies. I’m not going to cite them all, but the bulk of studies lie in the 40-60% heritable range, and I saw an interesting presentation of data from a recent study that indicated that the gene mutations/expressions were NOT present in other family members in a large percentage of cases (approximately 70%) (can’t find it at the moment, but I’m still looking and it made for very interesting reading). So, no it is not “factually incorrect” to say it is completely non-proven. It is, in fact, “factually correct.” No one ever, least of all Emily, implied that there was not a genetic factor involved in autism. What MOST people know, however, is that genetics alone can in no way account for the sum total of the autism explosion we have been experiencing in recent years. There MUST be an environmental component, and it must be significant.
Are you seriously asking me to prove people have died or been maimed from vaccines? The fact that anaphylaxis is on virtually EVERY vaccine insert doesn’t tell you enough? Are you unaware that many families have been compensated by the NVICP for “death” or is that seriously not good enough for you? Have a look at the table of vaccine injuries that can be automatically compensated (meaning there is no burden of proof because they already know the vaccines cause those conditions). http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/vaccinetable.html I can provide you with example after example of individuals who were harmed by vaccines and whose vaccine injury was documented by doctors, but then you’d just say, “That’s anecdote” until an “anecdote” happens to your family. When denial runs that deep it doesn’t matter how much “proof” there is to the contrary.
Absolutely agreed that “one person’s rights stop when they impinge on someone else’s rights”! Which means that NO, I do NOT have a right to “punch you in the face,” no matter how much I might feel like it. And you do NOT have a right to inject ME with something that could conceivably kill me. You argument MIGHT have some validity if someone went around DELIBERATELY spreading measles or whatever else to people who do not wish to have them, but there is virtually no evidence that anything of the sort is happening or would happen.
You, along with the vast majority of the press, are conflating two completely different things. Children who are not vaccinated are not automatically filled with contagious diseases simply because they are not vaccinated. In fact, they appear to be far healthier than they’re vaccinated counterparts. Yes, that’s “anecdotal” because we don’t have “scientific corroboration” on this because SCIENTISTS REFUSE TO DO A STUDY that compares health outcomes of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children. People who are SICK are contagious, whether or not they have been previously vaccinated, and sick people should stay home, whether from school or Disneyland. One thing that I have yet to see in a mainstream publication is that a vaccinated person is less likely to recognize when they are ill with the measles because of the assumption that it could not be measles, and is therefore less likely to stay at home than an unvaccinated person who understands that measles is a possibility.
What I find very troubling is that people like you, who can deny the very existence of well-documented vaccine injury and purport that a study that is an outlier even among the mainstream is “proven” truth, can go around lecturing other people on “truth.” You have a long way to go in understanding truth before your concerns on the subject will bother me.
very nicely said.
Why did you moderate my reply? Just so that you can have the last word? I didn’t say anything objectionable; I simply pointed out some of the logical problems with the claims you’re making. Still, it’s a waste of my breath, but it’s very bad etiquette to moderate someone just because you disagree.
We don’t “moderate” someone because we disagree. We do, however, “moderate” comments when it becomes clear that someone isn’t interested in a rational discussion. And denial of vaccine injury is not only not rational, it’s not worth anyone’s time. And your opinion of our “etiquette” does not matter to us in the least. Have a nice day.
Measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox – and many other ‘childhood’ diseases spread very quickly because an infected person is contagious LONG BEFORE they are SICK.
The incubation period can be 14 days. So for 14 days a child can be at school, the mall, a hospital, Disneyland coming in contact with hundreds or thousands of people and no one knows the child is ill. By the time the spots or swelling is evident, its too late. That is why diseases like this spread so quickly.
“A person can spread measles from four days before through four days after the appearance of the rash. A person with measles should stay home from school or work while they are contagious.” Most people have fever and respiratory symptoms BEFORE the rash appears. So, clearly, people are not contagious through then entire incubation period.
So are vaccinated children going to be ‘swquestered’ for a month afterward because that’s approximately how long they are DEFINITELY contagious?
Actually, the duration of shedding varies for the live-virus vaccines. Some are shorter. I have heard no plans for anyone to keep vaccinated children from anything.
Well said!
Daniel
you made this statement: Regarding your contention that vaccines have “the potential to kill you or maim you for life” and this this is “undeniable”, I challenge you to present any concrete, verifiable, non-anecdotal evidence to support this claim.
Please follow the following link. More to follow
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22591873
daniel
really? you hope that parents soon will not have the right to make decisions regarding their children? wow, what kind of world do you want to live in? you can hardly expect a woman to go through the discomfort of child birth and for parents to incur the expenses of raising children only to turn them over to the state to make all their decisions for them
and no, when people look at only the death rates for measles in the USA, they are not cherry picking data. we are in the USA and the only death and complication rates that count are the ones here. why compare the death rate of measles in the USA, which is nil, to the death rates in poor countries and make our medical decisions based on their circumstances?
when you go to africa, you may get vaccines for specific illnesses that you may encounter there, but we do not vaccinate every man, woman and child in the USA for diseases tat do not exist here, although if you have your way, i’m sure that will come
in truth, what probably affects death rates more is not vaccines but general health. bill gates can invest billions in vaccinating every last corner of the earth but until you eradicate poverty and substandard nutrition, you are going to have high rates of death. that might mean tampering with income inequality and that’s too toucy a subject for a billionaire philanthropist
you want some evidence that vaccines can cause harm and/ or death? darling, ALL drugs can cause harm and/ or death. in the USA alone, over 100,000 people die every year from properly prescribed and properly taken pharmaceutical drugs, about as many as i’ve heard die annually and globally of measles. and yet, i see no one trying to staunch that death rate
if you insist on evidence of vaccine harm and/ or death specifically, you have no further to look than the payouts made in vaccine court, billions of dollars (tax payer money of course since vaccine makers are indemnified) paid to parents when the government actually agrees that the damage or death was caused by the vaccine. in the case of death the payout is smaller but where the child is alive and irreparably harmed, there is money for pain and suffering, a life time of lost wages, legal fees, medical expenses and a trust fund set up for the life long care that the victim will require
trust me, the government only concedes in cases where the evidence is so clear that they cannot deny it
as to your assertion that “around 90% of autism cases have an entirely genetic explanation” it is not possible for a genetic condition to increase exponentially the way autism has, especially if it has no survival advantage. since severely austistic adults may not marry and reproduce with the same frequency as the general population, their “bad” genes would die out. so where is all this autism coming from?
when i was a college psych major, we were taught (and i’m not making this up) that schizophrenogenic mothers were the cause of autism- a mother who was cold and unloving and who didn’t embrace her newborn immediately with normal mother’s love caused these children to turn inward
when a mother protested that she completely loved her child from birth, the arrogant doctor would mumble some psychobabble about her unconscious hostility towards the child. in other words, it was still her fault even if she didn’t know she was doing it
notice that there were no schizophrenogenic fathers!
how many hundreds of mothers suffered from guilt until this ridiculous theory was revised to your now ridiculous theory of genes? remember when breast cancer was all genetic and thousands of women got their perfectly healthy breasts lobbed off for no good reason (pre angelina jolie)? then, whoops, we were wrong. only a tiny fraction of breast cancer is genetic. sorry about those missing boobs, ladies
you want to sequester perfectly healthy children from the general population just because they haven’t been vaccinated? hey, when i’m sick, i stay home because i feel like crap and don’t want to frolic around disneyland. but when i’m fine, i go where i please. oh yeah, i had measles as a child and my obviously incompetent parents weren’t even all that concerned. they considered it a childhood rite of passage, but hell, what did they know? they were just dumb parents, obviously not competent to make medical decisions for their children. certainly, i would have been better off being forcibly removed from their loving but misguided care and raised in a lab
i never get a flu shot. should i stay indoors, away from polite society even when i don’t have the flu? or should i wear a yellow star to mark me because that’s the kind of society for which you are advocating. we have enough reminders of where that leads to warn us against it
Your awesome!!
Autism is caused by immune activation during brain development. it is absolutely not a genetic disorder.
Like any other disease, autism is a gene-environment interaction. It is mostly caused by vaccines.
Here is the scientific evidence:
http://vaccinepapers.org/part-1-immune-activation-autism/
Reading through this entire thread, I can see you will not get any logic or critical thought from most of the people here. I’m not saying that they do not exist within the community of those against vaccinations, but on this thread, not many.
This thread and article was posted at a coffee shop and people just could not believe the obvious false civility and the fact that some are being purposefully obtuse. THE CENSORSHIP WAS INDEED BECAUSE THEY DISAGREED WITH YOU! People were really not buying “Professor” TMR (obviously not a professor and that says a lot about the person security with self) and this post: ” We don’t “moderate” someone because we disagree. We do, however, “moderate” comments when it becomes clear that someone isn’t interested in a rational discussion. And denial of vaccine injury is not only not rational, it’s not worth anyone’s time. And your opinion of our “etiquette” does not matter to us in the least. Have a nice day.”
The part about denial of vaccine injury not being rational just blew folks away, both pro and on the fence. No anti-vaccination folks chimed in while I was present. Saying that your take on it is not “worth anyone’s time” is one of the BIGGEST censors I have seen using irrational and self deceiving semantics. TMR, seriously, not cool at all. If you only want people who agree with you, I would suggest a closed community. You harm your own cause doing what you did and censoring that persons post with the reasoning you claimed. Very unfortunate. I would bet a lot of money MY post will now be censored with some asinine excuse.
Denial of vaccine injury is not rational. Period. There is a tremendous amount of evidence in MAINSTREAM sources that makes it very clear indeed that people get BADLY hurt by vaccines on a consistent basis, and we are under no obligation whatsoever to publish ANY commentary, much less that which is so completely pointless. As I implied, it would do nothing but waste our time (which was, no doubt, the intent), and we have far more important work to do.
WE make the decisions on OUR website, and that is totally “cool,” whether or not you agree. We have no interest in having a “closed community,” as the point of this website is to get information out that is not getting out due to mainstream censorship, and creating a community where people can find that information and NOT be harrassed by people who want to deny basic facts like “vaccine injury exists.”
And, no, I’m not a professor, but it doesn’t say anything whatsoever about my “security with self.” 🙂 This website and organization were started by a group of friends who were given nicknames by one of us, Tex. The nicknames reflect aspects of our personalities. Shockingly enough, Goddess isn’t really a Goddess, the Rev isn’t really an ordained minister, the Count doesn’t really have a title, and Saint . . . well, hers might be real come to think of it. 😉 Thanks for giving me an opportunity to lay out some history of TMR.
Professor TMR: Interesting that you allowed the post mentioning you but you refuse to allow the post I made in this thread that actually refutes a posters statement and has cited sources, peer reviewed studies and evidence that you and other anti vaxxers are incorrect in many areas. It was posted at about the same time this one was so you know it’s there. Obviously YOU are the one not interested in logical discourse on this topic.
You stated, “WE make the decisions on OUR website, and that is totally “cool,” whether or not you agree. We have no interest in having a “closed community,” as the point of this website is to get information out that is not getting out due to mainstream censorship, and creating a community where people can find that information and NOT be harrassed by people who want to deny basic facts like “vaccine injury exists.” Wow, way to play the victim card. You call someone who is refuting, with cited sources, being “harassed” which is telling. You are making every excuse so you do not have to face FACTS. Anyone who calls debate or ones views being challenged “harassment” has some issues they need to work through. It’s obvious you need to feel in control and powerful and use this topic and page to do so. I pity you. Enjoy the cognitive dissonance you have going on, doll. The rest of us will deal wit reality by researching and facing things that differ from our world views. Sad. So very sad.
Eh, I’ll get to your other post on my schedule, not yours.
And “victim card,” REALLY? 😀 If you saw half of the comments we dump telling people — who already have PTSD from dealing with the fallout of their children’s conditions — that they wish their children would DIE, among so many other loving wishes, you might not be so quick to call “avoiding harassing people” as “playing the victim card.” But who knows? Maybe you would. Denying the harm that vaccines can do, among the other fun stuff in that comment I rejected, IS harassing people who have experienced it. Just as denying ANYONE’S traumatic experience, up to and including the Holocaust, is an extremely destructive thing to do. And, as I LOVE many of the people who have experienced vaccine injury, I will NOT allow people to harass them here on our page, thank you very much. If you want to interpret that as a “need to feel in control and powerful,” you are free to do so, but don’t expect it to make any difference in the decisions we make around here.
Daniel K, you are missing the obvious.
Any genetic susceptibility to “autism” includes genetic susceptibility to severe reaction to vaccines.
Ever wonder why the manufacturers and the government have very carefully avoided studying these susceptibilities?
We actually already know quite a bit. We know that vitamin D deficiency, glutathione depletion, mitochondrial disorders, autoimmune disease, seizure disorders, and MTHFR gene mutations can each predispose an individual to a severe vaccine reaction. We also know that family history of any of these can do so, as well. Hell, we even know that a mother with celiac disease (which causes intestinal malabsorption and therefore vitamin deficiencies, glutathione depletion, etc) are more likely to have a child with autism.
Connect the dots.
Your theory on individual rights is a bit misplaced: nobody has a right to a germ-free society. As long as there is no legal right to force someone with, say, a cold, a fever, and a cough to stay home from school, work, the grocery store, public transportation, etc., there is also no legal right to force a healthy individual to submit to an invasive prophylactic medical procedure that a) is not as effective as the seller claims b) is FAR more risky than the seller claims and c) does not prevent the vaccinated individual from colonizing and transmitting the very virus/bacteria that the vaccine is supposed to address.
That’s right; the vaccines for polio, diphtheria, pertussis, etc., do not prevent colonization and transmission of those diseases; they weren’t DESIGNED to do so. They were designed to prevent symptoms in the vaccinated individual–who can then STILL harbor, colonize, and spread those diseases, all without the benefit of symptoms that would warn him to stay home, or at least stay away from susceptible individuals.
Other vaccines, those containing live virus, like rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles, measles, mumps, rubella, and also the FluMist vaccine, enable the vaccinated individual to shed live virus for up to 3 weeks, infecting any immune-compromised people they meet.
My right to avoid people shedding deliberately-injected shedding virus is perhaps similar to my right to avoid people who deliberately smoke cigarettes: perhaps we should have small, out-of-the-way segregated places for those who choose to be injected with whatever snake oil the pharmaceutical industry is able to sell them.
Great choice momma! I read your entire article & sympathize with you. I am sad that your poor guy had to endure that, but at least now you know the dangers of injecting your children with who knows what can cause. Diseases are spread more often by live vaccines that can shed up to 4 weeks anyhow.
If the people who vaccinated their children weren’t too chicken shit to do a little research or take all of their faith out of doctors who make a lot of money off of these vaccines, then tey may not be so quick to judge. Your kid is much better off without the poison than with.
I have four sons. All healthy. The oldest boys received only a FEW of the “recommended” vaccines before my now ex husband and I decided they were not safe. There was very little information on the dangers but we followed our guts and said no.
Even with the birth of our first boy nearly 18 years ago, we refused the PKU (just because I didn’t want pain inflicted on my newborn) and we refused the Vitamin K and waited until the 8th day of life to circumcise. My younger two have not been immunized nor will be.
It seems that fighting Big Pharma may be an exhaustive and un-winnable fight. Here in Colorado, two very Liberty minded legislators, Tom Tancredo and Steve Durham, came up with and passed a bill to allow “personal exemption” with regard to vaccines. It passed several decades ago. I home school now, but made use of this right for several years.
In those states where this invasive mandate leaves nearly zero choice, your Constitutional rights are being violated in a big way. Get together and push your representatives to regain your rights. If they won’t, run people who will.
Constitutional rights also extend to the children that your children come into contact with. By not vaccinating your children, you are violating the constitutional rights of other people to living disease-free. The sooner legislation is passed to prevent from happening, the better. Also, I find it tragic that you “decide” not to protect your child from potentially life-threatening diseases, but you are happy to cut off parts of his body. This is truly baffling.
There is no constitutional right to “live disease-free.” There is no way to guarantee that anyone will live “disease-free.” Vaccines certainly do not do so, especially as they INDUCE “disease” in many people. Look up the vaccine injury table. I understand the desire to eliminate all risk from life, but it simply isn’t possible. And if it were, would it be a good thing? From the moment we are born we are at risk of dying. It does not make sense to hedge against the extremely remote risk of something catastrophic by deliberately inducing damage that can have debilitating consequences. What you DO have a right to is bodily integrity. No one should EVER be able to force you to undergo a medical procedure that has the potential to kill you or maim you for life. That vaccines can do so is undeniable.
And what of the babies that died from people shedding para-pertussis post vaccination? By your logic, they should be tried for murder as their choice caused the death of another… Statistically, have you actually looked into how likely you are to die from the vaccine versus the disease itself? I’m sorry but if Dv>Dd, then by definition, it causes harm.
Since when is it someone else’s job to protect you? Sure, if someone breaks into your house and shoots you, they are going to jail. But aren’t you responsible to lock your own doors and protect yourself? And the dad outside playing with his’ kids… is he supposed to compromise the welfare of his’ family to run to your aid? Just a thought…
And to be clear, the shooter is the virus… not antivax parents. People who are anti-vaccination (or even delayed vaccination) do not spontaneously erupt diseases. Oddly enough, vaccinated ones do… its called shedding. Speaking of which, are you up to date with your shots? (Aka, DTaP, MMR, Flu, HPV… in the last 10 years.) If not, then please withdraw all comments.
If the vaccines are suppose to protect you then why does it matter if any one around you is vaccinated? this defeats the whole purpose of vaccines.
Are you for real?
If you want to use vaccines, go ahead. If they work, it shouldn’t matter who else is vaccinated. you can always have your titers drawn and revaccinate. you can’t however, force others to go thru medical procedures which are considered “unavoidably unsafe” for your own anxiety reduction.
as far as I’m concerned, get vaccinated every year with the full array of recommended vaccines, go to town. But, don’t expect the rest of us to follow suit.
And notice I said you and not your kids. The outbreaks, especially this past measles event, actually involved greater than 63 percent adults, most of whom who were vaccinated. Not unvaccinated children.
again, Daniel, feel free to vaccinate yourself as much as you emotionally require to feel safe. And,don’t go traveling, goodness ony knows what kinds of diseases you might pick up.
Where in the Constitution does it give people the right to live disease free?
Where is this constitutional right to live “disease free”? Vaccines dont provide that anyway, since vaccine cause diseases and neurological damage.
Vaccines are more dangerous than the diseases they supposedly prevent.,
Danger of aluminum in vaccines:
http://vaccinepapers.org/danger-aluminum-vaccines/
http://vaccinepapers.org/al-adjuvant-nanoparticles-can-travel-brain/
Animal experiments proving the danger of aluminum adjuvant:
http://vaccinepapers.org/aluminum-experiments-part3/
http://vaccinepapers.org/aluminum-experiments-part2/
Dr Paul Offit’s Lies about Aluminum:
http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/
How vaccines cause autism and brain damage:
http://vaccinepapers.org/part-1-immune-activation-autism/
Flu vaccine reduces immunity and CAUSES illness:
http://vaccinepapers.org/influenza-vaccine-immune-suppression/
Daniel -You have got to be kidding me. There are so many diseases that have no vaccines. Herd immunity is total BS. (We somehow managed to “eradicate” Measles with much less than 90% of the population properly vaccinated). How is that? Why is it better to kill/injure a healthy child with vaccines, but contracting an illness is clearly the fault of another? My son recently got Mono from his girlfriend who’s entire cheer squad also had. I should really sue them for going to practice while sick. I should also hit my son up for the doctor bill, he is the one spending time with a sick girl. Maybe go after her parents too since they let he leave the house sick.
Please cite the section of the U.S. Constitution that guarantees the right to live disease free.
My children were not vaccinated and my 10 year old got pertussis. We had a close family friend who was pregnant and told us she didn’t want the kids around her baby unless they were vaccinated for DTaP. We got my youngest children vaccinated at ages 5 and 7, just for the DTaP. I saw how hard it was to recover from pertussis and I didn’t want to be responsible for my kids passing that onto a baby.
We got the vaccines and my 7 year old started with a fever and lethargy. She was out of it. I gave her some motrin and she went to bed. The next morning she was scratching her palms and that was when I saw it. She had hives ALL OVER her body. Even on places she couldn’t reach, like her back. She was miserable and the pediatrician told me to give her Benadryl. They told me that this was not a common reaction, but did not believe that it was from the vaccines because it happened the next day. They said she was ok to get a second dose. I said no. The problems continued. She definitely had sensory issues. Complained of feeling hot, her clothes made her itchy. She was so hard to get along with, emotionally she was a mess. I took her to a pediatric acupunturist who worked with her for a few months and she got better. This is a very healthy 7 year old who never had any other vaccines, just the DTaP. So if I followed the full CDC schedule, who knows what would have happened to my child?
Here is an interesting thought. If he had prescribed an anti biotic he would have no problem blaming it on the drug. Because it was a vaccine there was no connection. Here you go, the word Urticaria is hives.
SIDE EFFECTS
Adverse reactions associated with the use of DTP (diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine adsorbed usp) include local redness, warmth, edema, induration with or without tenderness, as well as urticaria and rash. Some data suggest that febrile reactions are more likely to occur in those who have experienced such responses after prior doses. 6
The frequency of local reactions and fever following DTP (diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine adsorbed usp) vaccination is significantly higher with increasing numbers of doses of D.P. while other mild to moderate systemic reactions (e. g., fretfulness, vomiting) are significantly less frequent. 19 If local redness 2.5 cm occurs, the likelihood of recurrence after another DTP (diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine adsorbed usp) dose increases significantly. 6
Evidence does not indicate a causal relation between DTP (diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine adsorbed usp) vaccine and SIDS. Studies showing a temporal relation between these events are consistent with the expected occurrence of SIDS over the age range in which DTP (diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine adsorbed usp) immunization typically occurs. 13
Deaths due to causes other than SIDS, including deaths due to serious infections, have occurred in infants following the administration of DTP (diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine adsorbed usp) . No association has been shown for hospitalizations due to infectious disease and receipt of DTP (diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine adsorbed usp) . 20
It is sad to say but maybe that is why they are all given mostly before the age of a child being able to communicate what they are feeling. A crying baby just =’s fussy.
Our prayers are with everyone who struggles with vaccine-injured children. To some extent, everyone who has ever been subjected to the shot is injured, at least to the the extent of no longer having a fully natural immune system.
Let decision makers know how you feel here: http://tinyurl.com/VaccinationIsViolation
We have 3 kids and have chosen not to vaccinate them due to many of the concerns that are shared here about negative outcomes. It is at times so overwhelming to deal with the negative criticism — and to see how the pharm companies have functioned to brainwash both the medical community and parents. But we stand our ground nonetheless, with the support of a great homeopath and a holistic chiropractor who have experience treating the very illnesses that these vaccines are supposed to prevent. My oldest son contracted whooping cough from our vaccinated neighbors when we was 5 and our newborn son was exposed to whooping cough from his older brother– and the neighbors– and guess what, they are both alive and well. It was surely scary to see my son sick with pertussis, but we had daily phone consults with our homeopath to describe symptoms and determine the next remedy to treat the illness. Aside from that illness, none of my kids have EVER been sick enough to require medical attention– no ear infections, nothing that has ever required anti-biotics or medical intervention. I feel strongly that our decision NOT to vaccinate has been a good one as our kids are SO HEALTHY. It is so upsetting when pro-vaxxers insinuate that my children are dirty, disease ridden creatures. They are beautiful, vibrant, intelligent, healthy kids! We are also committed to a dairy and gluten free diet and no refined sugars. I honestly don’t think that choosing not to vaccinate is a lofty or airy choice. Do the research, know the reasons why you choose not to do it, and have a plan in place and professionals you can trust to help if your kids do get sick. But it is possible, and it makes a difference. I have worked in special ed, and have from so many mothers who are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that vaccines contributed to their childrens developmental challenges. We need to do better to PROTECT our children from
the REAL threat of being FORCED to put substances in their bodies that are potentially harmful. Why is there so much ADHD now? Why are my nieces and nephews sick all the time? Why are so many babies getting ear-tubes from chronic ear infections? Why do people keep taking a flu shot even though they end up with the flu anyway? Modern medicine can do better. We can do better. Thanks.
I’m a little late to this chat, so I apologize if I’m repeating something that’s already been said, but please, please, please report this incident to VAERS. https://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index. The FDA estimates that only 1% of adverse events are even reported, and that’s a problem if we really want to track the safety of our vaccines. You could file a claim with the NVICP, too. It’s not as much of a long shot as you might think, and you deserve to be heard. Plus, this is an outlet – to know you’re DOING something to help, at the very least, help prevent this from happening to someone else, and I know from experience that can go a long way toward putting your own mind at ease. I am so very sorry to hear this, and I’m so very sorry for the way it’s causing you to feel. I wish your family health, and you peace of mind!
My oldest was born with sever autism not question about it. My second son was coming along just fine until his MMR at the age of 5. We were told no shot no school. Late onset autism came on hard and fast with my younger son. Was it the shot that caused his autism or was it a trigger of an already lingering issue in his body? I don’t know but I do know he now has autism where he did not as a toddler. My youngest daughter now 14 has not had the MMR. Am I an anti-vaxer? I don’t really know what I am, but there is no way I will take a chance with my youngest. I wrote a book about how I have dealt with the autism of my son’s. And I will admit it was not always like “Mr Brady” but I also know I have come along way in my Journey. Great post and thanks for sharing your story. “Autism a Dads Journey” (Amazon)
I highly recommend the book, “Healing the Symptoms of Autism” by Kerrie Rivera. You may find that the protocol described helps your children.
My first negative experience to vaccinations was the flu vaccination I was required to get while in the army in 1971. No choice involved. As it happenned, there were about 10 of us in our platoon, and Frank, about 22, got vaccinated and ended up at Walter Reed Hospital and never returned to duty. I was OK, but that gave me a heads up. When my children were born in the 80’s, I was already aware of a link between the Pertussis vaccine in the DPT series and SIDS, so I never allowed my children to be vaccinated. They were taught at home, so there was never an issue with the schools. They also never needed to visit a pediatrician although they had a few visits to the chiropractor, mostly because of gymnastics ironically. (The chiropractor specialized in working with athletes and told my children that many of his adult patients had been hurt in gymnastics. They quit gymnastics after that.)
That recently vaccinated patients shed viruses which can infect others is greatly underreported, and would sway the debate about the risk my unvaccinated child might pose to the immune compromised.
When the truth finally emerges so undeniably that virus shedding by recently vaccinated children is the primary source of new infections, I won’t be gloating over the victory, rather I will be continuing to lament the broken lives caused by the incalculable greed of a pharmaceutical industry so cold and heartless towards the millions it has damaged.
For everyone who is still not sure and looking for explanations and answers watch this and at least think about, or do further research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32D_nIGtSnw,
or full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bkqY4vL_x4&feature=youtu.be
I am not into conspiracy theories, or against the science – I am in science myself, but I believe more and more that this world is driven by profit and “scientific” data are manipulated in order to gain that profit for few who control the mainstream media. I also believe that it’s not doctors, or nurses fault that push parents to vaccinate, as that is what they were taught and most of them do believe that, but there are more and more doctors, like this one who realized how bad vaccination is and he is brave enough to come up with his research and real scientific data.
I’m sorry but vaccines did not cause your son to regress. Autistic children regress because if stressful situations. It’s not that he forgot how to talk he just got so stressed that he couldn’t think properly to remember how he needed to respond. My little brother is autistic and he gets all his vaccinations and is just fine. But when you stress him out he can barely talk and starts to scream and freak out. He doesn’t like Hus schedule changed. Also people Ned to understand that your child was most likely autistic when you were pregnant with him. It just cannot be diagnosed properly until later in life. I am sick of seeing stories of people trying to find someone tonblame for their child being autistic. Get over yourself your child is special because that’s how he was meant to be. It’s no ones fault so just love the child and accept him for who he is.
Katy, with all due respect, because YOU have a little brother who has autism does not make you an expert on THIS woman’s child. I would venture to say that EMILY is the expert on HER child. Your brother may be able to take vaccines with no problem, but that was NOT the case with Emily’s son. Telling someone to “get over themselves” when all they want is for their children to be as healthy as possible is not only not helpful in any way, it is profoundly disrespectful.
I’m sorry. What’s disrespectful here is the way in which autism is being appropriated by the anti-vaccination movement to spread their misinformation and superstition. It does a disservice to children with autism – indeed, it’s a disservice to the writer’s own son – to attribute their condition to vaccinations. As @katy quite rightly said, autism isn’t something you suddenly catch one day; the propensity to autism manifests itself in the foetus during gestation. As responsible parents we have to put our children through a variety of medical procedures that they object to: going to the dentist can be very traumatic for young children, but we’d rather they had a tantrum about it afterwards than that they develop gingivitis and their teeth fall out. For an autistic child, expressing frustration is more complex and difficult and could perfectly well result in a child retreating into himself and not talking for a month. It is irresponsible to suggest that what triggered this retreat was the vaccine itself (which volumes of evidence suggest is not the case) and not the mere fact of having the vaccine administered (which, for autistic children, is demonstrably more likely).
Daniel, autism is not “being appropriated” by anyone. Twenty-two of this organization’s twenty-four founders are PARENTS of children with autism. And one of the two remaining parents is NOT the parent of a child with autism, but did not vaccinate. We, as parents, are merely telling our experiences and relating the scientific facts we have discovered along the way. If you are not comfortable with that, that is simply too bad. We are not going to stop telling the truth because you don’t like it. It is irresponsible NOT to talk about what happened. As said above, Emily knows autism (she has two children with autism, for Pete’s sake!), and what’s more she knows HER CHILD WITH AUTISM better than anyone. SHE knows much more about what is normal for her child than you will ever know.
“The propensity to autism manifests itself in the foetus during gestation” is a completely non-proven theory. It may indeed be true for some, but it is by no means the case for all. In addition, there are environmental insults that can happen to a foetus during gestation that include flu vaccines (many of which contain mercury) and RhoGAM shots (which also contain mercury). Google “Hear this well” and listen to some of the many parent testimonies. A couple of years back was called “Not born with it.” In that campaign, many parents showed pictures of their children who were obviously developing normally until a round of shots.
The fact is that autism was not described anywhere in history before the small pox vaccine. Also fact, it increased in direct proportion to the uptake of the polio vaccine.
Also fact, harking back to the story, the author says she chose not to sue the GP or the school. In reality, the indemnity extends to everyone involved with giving the vaccine (all vaccines). So even had she wanted to sue anyone, she couldn’t have. If vaccines are SO safe, why are the companies that make them and anyone who advocates fo rthem or administers them indemnified against any responsibility?
And, um, folks may not like it, but vaccines are certainly acknowledged as causes of autism. One only has to read vaccine inserts or check out the payouts by the NVICP (aka ‘vaccine court’).
Ever heard of the gut-brain connection? Do you know that vaccine strain measles bacteria is found in the guts of those with gut problems?
Do you know there have been no deaths from measles in the last 10 years? But over 100 cases of death by vaccine?
I know what I’m gonna/not gonna do…and my pets don’t get vaccinated either. If you want to take those sort of chances with your precious little ones, work away. My little ones will happily get the measles, mumps, chicken pox…etc…and live to have immunity. Peace out.
It’s the tetanus vaccine. Something in the vaccine for tetanus ITSELF causes issues. I say this not with any medical training but as an Aspie who, at age 20 – yes that’s right, age TWENTY – had to have a tetanus booster given because of a rather nasty bite from a bull ant, the doctor was worried since it had been 8 years or so since my last tetanus booster and I’m allergic to ant bites. Within hours I could not speak. I could not focus at work for weeks. I had trouble remembering which train stop I was supposed to be on. I had trouble swallowing. My arm swelled up so much I couldn’t wear my nice work shirts, I got reprimanded because of it. I know these were reactions to the vaccination not to the bite because I was bitten on my LEG. My arm wouldn’t have swelled up diagonally across my body without everything in between swelling if it was the bite. And the vaccine was given 3 days later, not the same day and the side effects didn’t start until after the shot was given.
So I understand vaccine injury. I understand that yes, it can make behavior classified as from the autism spectrum worse. And yes, I do understand why some parents don’t want to risk it at all. But I’m still pro-choice. And my son will still have his boosters. And no, I don’t think him having his shots have made a difference either way. But that’s his experience, and each and every one of our children are special flowers and none of them are exactly the same. My son was exhibiting signs as early as 6 months old, and there is a fairly distinct family history of autism related disorders, and nothing got appreciably worse for him after his shots. But my experience is not your experience. My only objection with those who are yelling about “vaccines caused my child’s autism” is that for the most part that I’ve spoken with – they do not care about any information that disagrees with them. They are certain that vaccines are the only thing that caused it, not that they are a contributing factor and that something in the shock to the system that IS a vaccine brought something forward that was sitting almost dormant in the “back of the head” so to speak.
I’m pro choice, and I hope, for the sake of their children, that those who are “anti vaxxers” practice “voluntary exclusion” when one of the diseases that those who vaccinated their kids have been exposed to something. I am fully immunised. Always have been. I was given my MMR at the earliest possible chance. I HAD RUEBELLA WHEN I WAS 5. After being vaccinated, I CAUGHT the disease. I was a very sick little girl. But I was vaccinated before I caught it. I would hate for someone who wasn’t vaccinated to catch it if someone who was vaccinated was sick enough to be sent to the ER.
So please, make a choice, but make sure that you do take care to watch your kids anyway, regardless of which choice you make. Vaccines aren’t the be all and end all of anything. Just because you were jabbed doesn’t mean that you won’t still get sick, and also remember that everyone’s experiences are different, but just because they are different does not make them invalid.
What a shame for you. A tetnus shot 3 days after the fact was (I would conder) malpractice. Also, when given for an ant bite. Even tho, or perhaps especially because, you were allergic. Such a shame that was done to you.
On the flip side, my son caught Rubella from a recently MMR vaccinated playmate in a gymnastics class. My 2 1/2 year old son was the only unvaxxed kid, so it was pretty obvious when he came down with symptoms about a week after the other child’s mother discussed their recent doctor appointment. Only, at that point I didn’t know there was any “danger” of shedding. I had to find it out on my own. His diet did not consist of sugared foods, but mostly fruits and veggies, and he was (and is) very healthy. He had 3 days of a mid-grade fever and about 4 days of a rash. No doctor necessary. We were definitely taken aback because there were no cases of measles (that’s what we thought it was for a year and a half) in the area at the time. My pregnancy blood tests confirmed (a year and a half later) that I had been exposed to Rubella and that I had heightened antibodies for only Rubella…as exposure creates a “booster” type reaction in those who have either been vaccinated or immune through earlier contraction… I finally knew that he had rubella, not just a mild case of measles.
Darling girl, thank you for sharing. I am 44 never been done, never been sick. I don’t even get a cold sore, as herpes hasn’t been injected into me. everyone in my family, every generation is the same. I am sorry for you. I am also glad you know. Keep their diets super clean, no junk, no chemicals and they just might get better. It is criminal what is happening to our children. I wouldn’t take two different tablet together untested, let alone 46 shots by age 5 which have never been tested. The CDC has never done a comparison study of vaccinated/unvaccinated. Never, this is truly criminal negligence. The Germans have done it though and the results speak for themselves. All the best sweet, Tanya x http://www.vaxchoicevt.com/science/studies-comparing-vaccinated-to-unvaccinated-populations/
Thank you for sharing your story. My son was vaccine injured too.
It’s so very frustrating when I try to share my story. People look at me like a 911 conspirator. But I KNOW what happened to my 18 month old when he received that damn flu shot.
If I could give my own life and everything I own to take that day back, I would. In life we don’t get second chances very often. I find myself trying to bargain with God to let me take his place.
This was one time that if I’d been a little less arrogant and listened to people that knew better, I’d have saved my son a lifelong disability and my family and myself, endless heartache.
Phillip, I sincerely hope that by telling your story here and elsewhere that you have saved OTHER children from lifelong disability and endless heartache. Thank you for your generosity in telling it.
I am an RN and had exactly the same reaction to “anti-vaxxer” people. My then 4 yr old had all of her vaccinations without any problems. Then my 4 mo old had her vaccinations and within 48 hrs suffered a seizure and stopped breathing. There was no other explanation for the seizure. Immediately following the shots, she was fussy and would scream every time she was laid flat, so I held her or she slept upright until the seizure. Then I laid her down for a diaper change and her little brain had swollen so much it caused her to seize. We performed CPR on her and kept her alive until she could be stabilized on a ventilator, and later transferred to a children’s hospital. After I told the physicians treating her the story and my concerns that vaccines caused this, I was given “the look” and I knew I was now going to be labeled one of ‘those anti-vax people’. The physicians denied vaccines had anything to do with it and dismissed it as coincidence. I later learned that 2 of the vaccines she received have seizures and brain swelling (encephalopathy) listed as a serious adverse event, and yet these physicians treating my daughter either never read the inserts or were lying- neither of which is acceptable. I lost my daughter that day, and I also lost my faith in the medical field, of which I was once proud to be a part of. And now with all of the measles propaganda, I get to listen to heartless assholes make fun of us that have suffered the greatest loss imaginable- it only adds insult to injury. No one else is going to look out for your kids. We need to protect them from these poisons and lies. Your kid might do just fine like my oldest daughter did, but then again they may not. Living with the fact that I allowed my children to be injected with something I knew nothing about is the hardest lesson of all. The guilt I feel is only surpassed by the loss we suffered. PLEASE, do not learn the hard way like I did.
The saddest thing about this is that it looks like until we don’t get 100% of children with autism we will find people with this attitude of dismissing “anti-vaxers”. It doesn’t look good for the future of the US…
Your story is almost identicle to mine. My son was only two months. The first DPT. The screaming that went on for five hours. I couldn’t touch him. Finally he fell asleep, or so I thought. What he did was stop breathing. During those five hours I called the Ped five times. They screamed at me telling me I was over reacting. It was July, very hot. I was soaked with sweat and my milk kept dropping from his screaming. The hospital claimed it was a near miss SIDS, not the shot. I was only 18 and very nieve but my mothers intuiton told something else. I did not sleep again for twelve months. I was affraid he wouldn’t wake up. I took him for his four month visit and he wantedto give him the second DPT. AS young as I was I refused and held strong. That was 45 years ago. I never brought him back for another well child visit. It was one ear infection after another. I would bring him to the ER and get the anti biotics. They would say follow up with your Pediatrician. I never did. He never got anoter vaccine until he went to kindergarten. Back then they gave you a lttle card with the shots listed and their initils next to it. My second son was born and he never received one vaccine until school. Back then it was only polio, MMR, and DPT. I refused all at once. and only allowed the dead measles. I was supposed to go back but never did. I just filled in the shot schedule and forged the initials. My oldest was later Dx with ADD. My second son was fine. Years later I realized that all that screaming was his brain swelling. It’s called encephelpathic screaming. I am convined had I given him that second shot he would not be here today. That was one shot that did that. Now there is how many? Trust your gut instincts and never let these doctors bully you. It is and has always been your decision. If they give you a hard time tell them to sign the consent form and take full liability. Then they will tell you they cannot do that. Then you say NO!
I was wondering, if children tend to have more severe reactions to vaccines, at what age would it be better for them. Wondering if holding off on vaccines until later would be beneficial.
There’s never a good age. That’s the point she is making. Vaccines are full of poison and should not be given to any living person. Ever! I am an adult (who was very pro-vaccine) until I had a severe reaction to my travel vaccines a few years ago. There are a lot of us adults who have had “adverse” reactions to mandatory work-appointed or travel vaccines. ME, Chronic Fatigue Syndromes, memory/concentration problems and mysterious Auto-Immune illnesses are our lives now. All vaccines are best completely avoided.
And you get more sensative to them, not less. So, they’ve always been fine before is no reason to think they’ll be fine next time. Unfortunately, this has happened a lot recently with the Gardasil vaccine.
Two the of the Tdap vaccines contain aluminum, a neuro-toxin. As well it should be said that some schools give the TD vaccine in place of the Tdap and these are all grown in medium (living cells usually, some are just amino acids), and two contain mercury (though the CDC states that it is only in Influenza vaccines), as well as formaldehyde.
It is decidedly possible that children in this population have a per-disposing sensitivity to one or many of the ingredients in these mandated drugs. There is not, to my knowledge any research that has scientifically validated absence of side-effect in these populations with any vaccines, never mind those a parent is required to have injected (and religious exemption is only possible in some states and is currently being challenged all over our once ‘free’ country).
Link to a list of ingredients: http://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005206#mueller_hinton
I should research this a little more before I comment but, I don’t think it is the vaccine that is the problem. It is the mercury compounds used to increase the shelf life of said vaccines that may be causing the developmental problems. Mercury is a known neurotoxin but it’s cheap and increases profits for drug companies by extending the expiration of vaccines. Polio was completely wiped out in the ’50s by vaccination, but I don’t think that was as profit-driven as today’s plethora of government mandated vaccines are…
Mercury IS a known neurotoxin and is likely to be implicated in a great deal of neurological disorders (read Robert F. Kennedy Jr’s book on the science of Thimerosa), but that particular vaccine does not contain mercury. Mercury does not explain the sum total of vaccine adverse effects that are affecting today’s children.
how about the aluminum and other ingredients like hello folks do your research
Brandon,
Yes, mercury and aluminum in shots are big problems, but far from the only problem. The really big problem is that the immune system ALWAYS reacts to vaccines, if it didn’t, there would be no antibodies created. But a LOT of people have immune system that react too vigorously to the assault of all those chemicals, pathogens, and foreign proteins suddenly injected into them, and a LOT of people’s immune systems react with so much inflammation that it involves the brain. Encephalitis, with all the many kinds of brain damage that can cause, autism, ADHD, seizures, learning and behavioral disorders. That’s why the MMR causes autism even with NO preservatives or adjuvants, no mercury or aluminum. ANY vaccine can cause vaccine encephalitis. And any vaccine can cause autoimmune disease if the patient has an immune system that is sensitized to some of the vaccine ingredients. EVERYTHING becomes an allergy-causing antigen when it’s injected into the body, the only surprising thing is that not everybody has an obvious severe reaction, either neurological or autoimmune damage. Vaccines per se, any kind of vaccine, is the big problem, and the cause of 99.99% of the autism we see so often now.
Sorry, but polio was NEVER completely wiped out and certainly not by vaccines. Up until about 10 years ago the only cases of polio in the US had been proven to be caused by the vaccine. In fact, polio was well on the decline (as were all the ‘vaccine preventable’ illnesses, well before the advent of the particular vaccine AND the introduction of the vaccines did not increase/change the trajectory of the decline of the occurences of the illnesses. It’s all on the CDC’s own website.
Emily, I was riveted by your story: from the days of ‘eye rolling’ to developing the resolve to protect your kids. Not too long at all. After a long day at work, there are those who manage to stay up late with the hope of finding such stories to uplift ourselves from any thoughts of despair/loss of hope for humankind. Thanks for being so courageous and sharing your story.
I am sorry to hear your story. Please know that autism regression is not uncommon around puberty. Children at this age are dealing with a lot of change and stressful events can be overwhelming, leading to the types of behavior you describe.
I’m sorry that any of you are having to go through this. My heart does go out to you but with that being said my daughter and 300,000 other children in the US have to deal with Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis and she and many others are on immune supressant drugs in order to keep their disease under control. If she doesn’t take these she can’t even get out of bed. So I don’t think it’s right that you feel it’s OK to lie in school forms in order for them to attend. If they come to school with the Flu let alone the measles and my daughter catches it from them she WILL DIE! So if you don’t want to vaccinate then HOME SCHOOL. I have to protect my child from yours. I’m sorry if this bothers some of you but their is another side to this issue.
Nicole, were you aware that rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune condition and that vaccines are capable of inducing such conditions? I understand your desire to protect your child, we all share that same desire. But can you honestly say to another parent, perhaps a friend, a co-worker, or your pastor even, I’m aware that giving your child a vaccine could KILL your child, or give your child the exact same condition my child has, and that’s perfectly okay with me? I couldn’t. No matter how sick my child might be it would NOT be okay to force some OTHER child to become ill in order to protect mine.
Hey Prof – on a lower comment about vax induced measles i can’t reply because it’s too “paragraphed”, lol.
i have read of a study in which a collegiate female who was on a “normal” vaccine schedule got her measles vaccine when she started college – think last year. She developed measles from the vaccine, AND was shown to have infected 4 of her friends with the vaccine strain measles. Apparently those girls did not get the vaccine but caught it from her….
Well, that’s VERY interesting. If you read the medical literature, the claim is that the secondary infection doesn’t happen for measles vaccine, but there is at least ONE recorded case. I would be very interested in seeing that link if you can find it.
When we “met” i was on a Toshiba laptop. It’s video card died – which means motherboard apparently. With all the farm infrastructure to get it going after dozens of years of neglect – new laptop NOT in the books – so i used the wife’s old computer.
Windows 98 – so old it got emails from 1980 something, i swear. Can’t download half-a-diddly on that, so son let’s me use his slightly newer ‘puter – also windows 98 – for now.
i might have it linked on my laptop hard drive – and i am going to order a remote hard drive docking station so that i can use the over 2oo links, abstracts, interviews etc i have there – JUST on vaxassination. This isn’t the only thing i look at – i’ve been looking at nutrition/biochemistry/natural healing since 77 and by 78 i knew things that MDs are JUST NOW finding out. (fats, sugars, sodium, cholesterol, etc)
So it is likely that i have it under my folder’s folders there, and when i get it i’ll try to link it for you. Couldn’t find it in a brief search…
Well, thanks for trying. I’m familiar with the issues. I have to say, though, when I have reread things I have realized that in some cases they weren’t as I remembered them. 😉
Lol – so who changed the things you’d read? i used to have someone follow me at work (subcontracting million $$$ homes in SW colorado until 2008) and hide my tools where i used to be working with it. Kind of ticked me off after awhile.
Fortunately i’ve been blessed with a pretty decent …………… uhm ………………. you know …………………………. those rememberator thingies, lol.
In actuality i recall my first time-stamped event at 6 weeks of age getting my diaper changed (by Dad) and then being brought up through the front door behind the organist so i could be baptized…A lot more than that, but that’s my first dated memory.
😀 I don’t remember clearly that far back, but I have re-experienced my birth in primal therapy… I generally have a pretty good “rememberator thingy” too, but after more than five decades on the planet, the details are starting to get a little muddled. Oh, well.
Have an extra decade on you maybe, and my SELECTIVE rememberator does weird things. i can remember articles from the 90s about Oligomeric proanthocyanidins and their rebuilding (temporarily) connective tissues, and that alpha lipoic acid is (one of?) the only anti-oxidants which can do INTRA-cellular repair and works in fat and water soluble situations/environments. i can remember my 1977 Calif driver’s license – N7350604 – but what piece of hardware was i going to get – and for which project….
Then it’s a fight to remember i’m putting up the roof extension for the hogs, and it’s not the gates in that project, the fixing the disk project, the weld the sickle bar mower leg on project (bad weld from old neat guy that sold it to us) the gopher proofing the allium beds, the pruning of the apricots……ad infinitum.
When i get the project i usually get what i needed to buy.
Why does not having a vaccine equate with coming to school sick? Plenty of vaccinated kids get sick as well, especially with the ineffective flu vaccines we’ve had lately. And you read the story, right? You read that she is well aware of both sides of the issue, having been physically on both sides? We all want to protect our children, and I’m appalled anyone has to say that out loud. It should be a given.
She said she WOULDN’T lie so she didn’t have the religious exemption form. Read more carefully. Also, question.. if your child has such a low immune system wouldn’t you be scared of a recent vaccinated child that is shedding the disease more? Or just any other virus going around that would endanger your child?
I have a friend. Her baby boy was hearty and thriving. She took him for his well baby check up and the doctor proclaimed him to be very healthy, and sent him to the lab for his vaccines. He died a few hours later after spiking a fever and having seizures. The cause of his death was determined to be his vaccinations. So my question to you, Nicole, is why should my friend have to sacrifice her only child so that your daughter can potentially be spared from an illness that she will likely never catch in the first place? The selfishness of this line of thinking astounds me.
Nicole, While I understand your concerns about your daughters safety, you don’t have the right to refuse us the same freedom. Many non-vaxers don’t want their kids going to school with vaccinated kids. But we all have to pay taxes for YOUR child, and to kick our child out is wrong. Especially when vaccinated kids are allowed to attend OUR kids school while they are shedding diseases. Our kids get less attention at school, because of all the disabilities caused by vaccines. (autism, adhd, and yes RA… to many to list. Really if you wanted to keep your daughter safe, you wouldn’t let her attend public schools were vaccines are given to most of the children. As parents are told their kids are shedding, they aren’t asked to stay home “sick” as they are certainly contagious. Or often they have little siblings at home getting tons of vaccines that their big brother/sister unknowingly take to school. I think a better solution would be to have the chose to attend a FULLY vaccinated school, and one that is for unvaccinated kids. I would go that route in a minute. But I doubt we will see that happen, as it would prove that the vaccinated school are riddled with health problems and are the ones shedding diseases. It would shine a bright light on whose kids were healthier, and had higher IQ’s. But why don’t you help push that program. Shouldn’t we both get to educate our children in what we perceive as a the safest environment? Or do only people with your beliefs deserve that? Just FYI I am immune compromised, I have had 3 major surgeries in the last 12 months. In fact one this week. So you can’t preach to me about about immune deficiencies. (I see a rheumatologist, chronic pain doctor, endocrinologist, and many more OFTEN) I was fully vaccinated as a child, and as a Marine. I fully vaccinated my first two children, they both had ADD or ADHD, difficulties in school, were sick all the time and both in their 20’s now and still often sick. My youngest two had ONE BATCH of vaccines, and had a horrible reaction. That is when I started reading about vaccines…. and never again. They are super bright (on honor roll), if they get sick, it is mild and they kick it quick… they are sweet and mellow.
I want you to have the right to do what is best for your children, I just want the same right for mine. We just need to work together to create an environment so that ALL of our children can go to school in what we each feel is a safe environment.
It is self centered to say that you don’t care about our children, and want our children to risk being damaged because of your beliefs. Have you considered that you might be wrong? Have you read all the articles from whistle blowers about the fraud and corruption in the immunization community, both in testing, disclosure, or even training doctors to identify vaccine damage. They are only taught how to give vaccines, and they NEVER warm parents of the plethora of possible side effects. I was never told anything other than a slight rash or fever, I was never given the vaccine pamphlets, even when my twins had a bad reaction, I was told it wasn’t because of the vaccines, and was never told I should report these side affects… nope just bring them back in 2 months to give them 8 or 9 more.
My child has no immune problems and his first year at school he was sick with viruses all year because of the selfish parents who brought their miserably ill children to school for everyone to catch the same virus. In four months my son had influenza, hand foot and mouth, several colds, and head lice. I quickly pulled him out of that school because his hearing was becoming impaired from all of the illness. Do you mean to tell me that every one of those viruses doesn’t hurt your child—-ONLY vaccine preventable viruses do? That’s hogwash if that’s what you are saying. I know for a fact a simple cold puts many in the hospital…..and a simple stomach virus puts people in the hospital too, much less immunocompromised people. I, as a good parent who loves my child, took my child out of that school to homeschool him so he could get well and away from all of the germs. Perhaps you should do the same.
I’m sorry, but if your child is so medically fragile and can actually die from being exposed to the flu or the measles, then how about YOU home school YOUR kid?
The fact of the matter is that there are a lot more adults running around who are not current on their vaccinations either…and your child is probably at a bigger risk around the adults in her life than the kids.
I’m sorry about your daughter, I really am, and as a parent who has actually lost a child (he had HLHS….a disease where communicable disease was just as dangerous for him) I know what that risk means. By MY kid had the issue….not other kids, God bless them. Had he lived long enough to be schooled, I would have home schooled him for that very reason.
So YOU protect YOUR kid…..and I will protect mine.
Why should an non vax have to stay home. If you are protecting your child then why shouldn’t you home school? Just a question. Just because a child is vaccinated does not mean that they can not still pass the measles or any other virus to your child.
It’s actually the vaccinated that are spreading the measles! They can shed for days, weeks and months, and now we’re starting to see atypical, more severe cases of measles. Hmmm…
Okay, non-vaccinators have to stop saying this. The strain of measles that was “spread” at Disney was NOT vaccine-strain measles. There is no real evidence for “outbreaks” due to vaccine-strain measles. What there IS is a number of infants who test positive for “measles,” have what seems to be a full case of measles and then are told, “No, that was just a ‘reaction to the shot.’ Your child doesn’t really have measles.” And, obviously, those children, as well as many if not most children recently vaccinated with the MMR, are going to be a danger to those with compromised immune systems. The number of people with ‘compromised immune systems,’ i.e., those who are vulnerable to vaccine-strain illnesses is growing larger and larger. The question we should be asking is why? What is happening to those people’s immune systems? One obvious likelihood is that their immune systems are affected by the very thing that was invented to mess with their immune systems and that are now received in large numbers by the average child.
Why do 300,000 children in the US have to deal with Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis, vaccines maybe? Perhaps you should home school your child to protect vaccinated children
nicole
try changing your daughter’s diet. take her off all gluten. just try it for 6 wks and see if it makes a difference.
the truth is immune suppressing drugs are terrible for many reasons and emily’s not completely vaccinated children are not one of them. what about cancer and bone loss?
autoimmune conditions don’t just come out of nowhere and our medical paradigm has nothing to offer except suppressing the immune system. find a functional doctor who will get to the root cause and make dietary changes that can turn her condition around
look up the NYTimes article The Boy with Thorns in His Joints
Vaccines cause RA and other autoimmune diseases. Did you vaccinate your child?
So, everybody else is responsible for taking care of your one-in-a-million (hyperbole) child as YOU see fit, eh? What about all the fully vaccinated kids in school who get sick and show up there anyway? Or are you delusional enough to believe that only unvaccinated children get sick, ever, and they do so purposely to kill your child, who is obviously more precious than anyone else’s. Since you can’t vaccinate, I’m sure you realize that your child doesn’t walk around with contagious diseases, even though she has a compromised immune system. Do you actually think that kids with a normal immune system are sicker? I’m sorry your daughter has a terrible disease, but I am not going to play vaccine roulette to alleviate your fears. If you are afraid of life, then HOMESCHOOL!
Nicole I once read an article of an severley autistic woman non verbal with chronic psoriasis. At 50 odd years old her doctors put her on immune suppressants and suddenly she started speaking….the link? Inflammation…
Biomedical treatment helps recover autism and autoimmune diseases. Rather than supreme the immune system maybe try repairing the glitch. There is science based protocols using vitamins and diet that would help your daughter and avoid putting her at risk. My son was very ilk before biomedical treatment..chronic diarrhea and ear infections (although he never spiked fevers from what I now know was because his immune system wasn’t functioning properly)…now he fights off colds and flu like a champ…and those viruses have a purpose believe it or not. I suggest rather than living in fear get to reading and researching…it’s very productive.
Why are the news stations, talk show hosts and politicians not talking about this? About the truth?, that healthy children are being horribly damaged by their (not so)”safe” vaccines. This breaks my heart.
The news is not reporting this because the companies that produce vaccines are the same companies that produce the many many drugs which they pay so much money to have advertised. No news program is going to throw their source of funding under the bus.
This industry spends billions of dollars (more money even than the oil industry) on government lobbyists. Why do they feel the need to do this if they are immune from being sued? hmmm
Dina, I was on The Nightly Show last week, and they seemed to think that the $40 billion that vaccine manufacturers stand to make this year do not make the fact that THEY produce the safety studies problematic. And, yet, the next night they were doing a show on the influence of the Koch brothers’ billions on government. So . . . the Koch brothers are capable of suborning Congress with their billions, but money has absolutely no effect on officials at the CDD? How is that logical?
I am so sorry to hear this. Dr. Amy Yasko has had much success with autism. Check her out. http://www.dramyyasko.com/ Thank you for sharing your story. Here’s to better health for your family. I hope Dr. Amy can help you. xo, Marcia
My son also has Classic Autism but is completely non-verbal (uses AAC). We have given him every vaccine on the govts schedule, and a few optional ones such as the chickenpox vaccine and flu ones.
In our case luckily our son has never had any reaction to any of them and he’s a very healthy kid. Thats been our experience, but I would be pretty concerned in your case too, I believe you that your son had a reaction of some sort.
you don’t know the effect the vaccines will have years now on him.
I guess the fact that he’s non-verbal isn’t a big enough clue.
My son is non-verbal because he has Autism – which in his case is something he has always had, evident right from being a newborn. It is not related to vaccines in our case.
Nostromo you said your son’s autism has been evident from birth. Please could you describe the evident signs? Also did he receive any injections within his first few days of life? Did you take any vaccines during pregnancy or before conception?
Fine girl, I don’t know if you realize it, but your comment has a “challenging” aspect to it. If we wish people to believe it when we say that children regressed and developed autism from their vaccines, we have to be prepared to believe the people who say their children had autism from birth or have autism despite not being vaccinated. It DOES happen.
Hi Emily. I, too, read to the very end. As a parent of twins born very small (with a very sick mom that has autoimmune disease and Lyme), I’ve gone back and forth on this issue. It is the reaction I had as an adult, and I can’t prove those, that led me to stop. Also, my son became so ill after vaccs as a little guy (most wouldn’t remember but he does), he was vomiting before we exited the parking lot. I used to think I was lying about the exemption. I’ve come to see that I do qualify for it. It is a part of my system of beliefs (spirituality) not to put foreign substances into my body. In fact, while I am not a churchgoer, I’d likely cite the Bible to make my point if pushed.
So sorry you’ve gone through this, and for the suffering of your son, but I love your genuine compassion and humiliy in reaching out to the public. Thank you so much.
That’s what I had to do. While I am not a practicing Catholic, I was raised Catholic and while the Vatican and the Papal authority have cleared the way for Catholics to receive the MMR and Varicella, I just cannot reconcile with the fact that synthetic proteins developed from the DNA of an aborted 14 week old boy, is okay to put into my kid. Sorry. Not doing it. So I take the religious exemption.
I recently found out that my denominational organization made a statement that it does not support anti-vaccine sentiment. So I cannot use the name as a reason for my religious exemption. BUT I do believe there is Biblical basis for NOT poisoning my child…even for the “safety” of others.
Now, I also analyze what other non-christians believe, and I think there is basis for “religious exemption” for all sorts of beliefs. Religion does not equal Christian. Pagan-type religions could claim that vaccines are not natural (as most of the ingredients are truly of no natural benefit to the human body but are meant to be toxic in order to create a response). Athiests (while not an organized religion, but a life directing belief system) could claim that the evolution of the immune system developed with viruses and that vaccinating can unnaturally and negatively interrupt the development of the immune system as individuals and as a herd (case in point: chickenpox is safe if contracted in childhood, but dangerous as teen/adult. children get chickenpox and re-expose adults who’ve gotten chickenpox as children, thereby “boosting” the immune systems of adults and helping to stave off shingles. That chain is broken now that children no longer get natural chickenpox, but instead vaccinated children and young adults are getting shingles earlier because it is not a strong enough immune response, and adults who had chickenpox are more likely to get shingles sooner and worse because they are no longer exposed to children with chickenpox. And teens and adult who have been vaccinated, but where immunity has waned, are coming down with deadly versions of what used to be a mild childhood disease. It’s all just a big, broken mess now!).
I am not advocating lying. I am merely stating that “religious exemption” can have a much wider use than just Christian. Most scriptures or beliefs within religion have SOMETHING that can pertain to natural health. My denomination will not back me up, but my understanding of scripture does. Look outside the box and make the exemption work for you…without lying. 🙂
Thank you for sharing your story and your story is heartbreaking. It also brings back memories about 17 years ago when my son had his MMR shot. A week later he broke out in a rash with high fever around 104. Shortly after that, he started spinning objects, lids, coasters, anything round. Toy play changed and became repetitive and he stopped responding to his name. Words he had at that point, went away. He did get more words, but then shortly after the DTaP shot at 18 months, he got sick again, with another high fever rash type of illness. At that point he had about 2 dozen words. By age 2, his last word was banana. No words since. Did vaccines play a role or was it just coincidence? I don’t know, but his immune reports showed very elevated titers for the various viruses of the different immunizations he received. It makes you wonder….
I appreciate your story. Lots of people can and do have reactions to vaccines. They are no different than antibiotics or other life saving medications. I don’t believe vaccines cause autism because I believe it’s genetic and that has been proven. When I first saw the pic of you and your son my immediate question was what other genetic disorder does he have? He looks like a little person. God gave us smart enough minds to make medicine. It’s how we use the medicine. If vaccines really did cause autism every kid in the world would be autistic. In fact to date any child with any sort of developmental delay is considered autistic. Where I live doctors are no longer allowed to give an aspie diagnosis. Does this mean you will no longer give your son antibiotics since some of them contain the very ingredients that are in vaccines. I’m not anti-vax or pro-vax I’m in the middle. I’ve given my kids some vaccines and opted out of the others. You guys are lucky because where I live there is no religious exemption. There is no medical one either and there isn’t one for personal reasons. Your child is vaccinated or you homeschool.
you wrote “”I believe it’s genetic and that has been proven.”” No it hasn’t. The so called “”experts”” have no idea what causes it. They don’t “think” its caused by the shots but they don’t know. As for why every kid in the world that has been vaccinated doesn’t have autism, different kids react to the chemicals in different ways and because of that, they should stop and start over and this time get one that covers everyone!
To think that no child suffers in any way from vaccines is fairy airy thinking. And just because one child who gets vaccinations doesn’t become autistic doesn’t mean that there aren’t effects. Have you noticed how many children are SICK with something, much more than any other generation? Where did that come from? There are so many heavy metals and poisons (that we eat, inhale, and put on our bodies) bombarding everyone everyday that to add insult to injury with vaccinations is irresponsible. As a people we have lost sight of what it means to be healthy – naturally – and to take full responsibility for doing so. Medical schools do not teach that. The pharmaceutical industry doesn’t want you to be healthy, but rather to be dependent on their products. If that means destroying your children in some format so that those children must rely on medications at some point in their lives, then so be it. Society was never as sick as they are now. Problems with not enough food and with foul living conditions – yes, but those did not cause the illnesses and diseases we have today. And do NOT count that the small pox vax destroyed small pox.
genetics? proven? maybe recheck your “proof”cause a genetic predisposition might explain why not every vaccinated child has autism, but there is definitely a confirmed link between vaccinating and autism. There is also a link with gut health and autism. There are many issues which link with autism and the toxic rubbish in vaccines is definitely a big factor that cannot be ignored.
“If vaccines really did cause autism every kid in the world would be autistic”? Seriously? Let’s silly that “logic” to other things…
Does smoking always cause cancer?
Does being hit by a car always cause massive internal injuries?
Does falling in a pool always lead to drowning?
Using your logic, the fact that the answer to each of those questions is “no” means nobody ever gets cancer from smoking, being hit by a car never causes massive internal injuries, and falling in a pool never leads to drowning.
Sheesh, common sense is becoming so rare these days!
I am so sorry but appreciate you telling us. I got the childhood diseases and my children were vaccinated but not very many then. Two granddaughters had a bad reaction from DPT and a grandson has Asperger’s so I have been following. A Canadian brain Dr. has a youtube video showing reactions (in the eyes) of children having shots that scares me yet. I am constantly fighting for non-vax or at least choice. One of the arguments given is that it is genetic and if that’s true then there should be some pre-test to determine susceptibility. Your experience so fully illustrates that we are being lied to. Thank you.
That Canadian doctor is now dead. His name is Dr. Andrew Moulden and here is some of his research: http://truthalerts.com/dr-andrew-moulden-learning-to-identify-vaccine-damage/
He was a very kind, sweet man who really cared about children and health freedom. We communicated on and off about various detox protocols.
I learned the hard way that vaccines are dangerous. My girl suffered daily migraine headaches caused by inflammation of the brain due to mercury and severe gut issues plus more that I won’t get into here. This is what three different doctors in Europe told me. Specialists in genetics and MCS.
I hope I live to see the day that vaccines are banned and the leaders of this pharmaceutical experiement (brings to mind the Holocaust), jailed.
I just want to say thank you for sharing!!!
Emily,
Thank you for sharing your story. I have 3 boys, the eldest who was born around the time of the MMR uproar. His pediatrician split that shot up for us, as to not introduce too much at once. By the time my next two boys were required to have the MMR shot, the uproar had died down and I believed that maybe I had overreacted. I didn’t split the vaccine up for the 2 younger boys. The 2 youngest each have a tic disorder. Was it due to the shot? Not sure, but it does make me question it. Now my 12 year old is due for the chicken pox booster. I live in NY, so it is quite difficult to obtain waivers. We had his blood drawn to see if he was already immune. No dice, so we cannot claim a medical exemption. The religious waiver does not apply to us. So, we are faced with home school, private school, or get the shot. His tics have increased significantly over the last 4 months so I am concerned that the vaccine could effect that. Do I have any medical research to stand on? Not that I know of in regards to the chicken pox vaccine. But I have a mother’s instinct that I am not going to ignore, especially after reading your story. Thank you for sharing it.
Can you not use the religious exemption, because you don’t wish to lie? Or is it an issue of it being more restricted in that area? I have to say this: Instinct is strong, and I’d follow it. With mine, I’m using an online charter academy, although I’ll use religious exemption in a flash. I’ve watched the reactions.
Cheryl,
NY is really strict with the religious exemption so I cannot use it.
New York City is really strict, but many areas of the state are much less so.
The Supreme Court decision in Hobby Lobby last July found that, in the 48 states that offer a religious exemption, the state must just take the word of any parent who wished to claim it, that it had no right to play religious police. Any parent aware of this can claim the right and use the phrase “no religious police, back off” if anyone tries to question it.
We had two boys in our family that received vaccinations from the same bottle of serum. The youngest one died (SIDs) after only 5 hours and the older one has never spoken a word since that time except to call for “mama” in extremely stressful circumstances.
I will never be convinced that it had nothing to do with the shots although many people have tried to do so. When I tearfully share my story with these people, they do roll their eyes.
I can’t go back and undo what has been done but I can share my story so that perhaps, someone who reads this story will stop long enough too think. There are risks that are taken when you choose to not vaccinate but there is also a risk that you take when you choose to vaccinate. Please don’t criticize those of us who have, through our own experiences developed the belief that indeed, it is against our conscious to vaccinate the rest if our healthy, happy, children.
I’m so sorry Sheila. Your story brought me to tears, and I know people roll their eyes (they have at me), but I wanted to get in here and say that not everyone will. Thank you for sharing what must be painful to share in the hopes of helping others. Shame on others for being mean to you.
There is a factor not being discussed (I havent heard anyway) and that is the effect of quality controls or lack of them. THere have been an alarming number of cases of contaminated injections causing numerous reactions/diseases traced to unsanitary conditions at formularies (where these things are mixed/bottled). It just may be that the cost of strict quality controls is an expense which greedy manufacturers forego in some/many cases. While quite hard to trace or monitor, the resulting cost to patients and society should possibly be a great enough incentive to demand that these manufacturers sign a legal affidavit certifying the safety and efficacy of every single dose they manufacture. This should be considered at the federal level to insure the same regulation applies across all states. Much of what we receive is produced in other places than where we live and we should require ourselves and our kids be protected form any contamination or mal-manufactured injections, and there needs to be severe criminal penalties for the people who profit from this area of business. We have no opportunity for informed consent, and the price paid by the people injured needs to be treated as a malicious crime, period. Thanks for reading.
Vaccine manufacturers now break up their “lots” of vaccines and distribute them widely. The biggest effect that has is that “hot lots” that cause higher than average amounts of damage are not detected as quickly because they are not concentrated in one geographic location.
I so wish my story was completely different. I feel your pain. Thank you for your transparency.
Thank you for writing this and bless you for being able to finally accept your first-hand evidence. Denial is a powerful reaction, especially when it’s reinforced by mass media and peers.
Out of your tragedy is perhaps the most powerful advice others could hear:
“”I’ll never laugh at an anti-vaxxer ever again. I’m now one of you.”
Please post statements like that online whenever you read articles or comments that deny the vaccine/autism link. The more voices that are heard, the sooner society can end this horrible in-home holocaust of children’s neuroimmune damage.
God bless you, Emily. You are so, so brave. Thank you for sharing your story!
So thankful for your story. It takea a lot to be able to admit and share this kind of experience. All is not lost for your sons. Autism is just basically heavy metal toxicity. If you help him detox edta chelations, do uvbi treatments with Doc Rowen Md. He will be normal within a few years. Good luck to you and your family.
Just want to make sure that people know that there is NO treatment for autism that is effective for everyone. Every child responds as differently to treatments as they do to environmental insults.
Try butter oil and fermented cod liver oil to help rebuild his nerve sheaths
Hi yes I did read your story from start to end iam not a anti vacationer as my cousin can tell you who is and for her reason my little cousin who is cute as a button believes was caused also by vaccines which is her right and I stand by her decision and opions but what I don’t understand is why you didn’t take him to the er as soon as you notice d the difference in behavior I understand that you had your reasons that the world is split on this matter but this could have been undisputed medical evidence that all the families who believe that vaccines caused their precious children to have autism he was seen by your pediatric dr prior to the injection then had you gone to er and explained if they wanted to call you whatever let them iam not putting no blame on you at all don’t take me wrong but it would of been evidence linked to that vaccine your peds could have stated that your child was not like that prior to the shot and ladt i knew medication companies can be held liable a nurse and it’s all about documentation if it’s not then it didn’t happen that’s what they say iam sorry for this happening to your family next time lie tell them you converted next time when you have a feeling it’s usually right. Good luck in your fight.
Lots of people have taken their children to the ER in the middle of a vaccine reaction and been told that it “had nothing to do with” the vaccine. Emergency personnel simply are not trained to recognize a vaccine reaction when it is happening. So the assumption that it would be “undisputed” simply because it is true is, unfortunately, FAR off the mark.
In addition, pharmaceutical companies CANNOT be held liable for the harm done by vaccines. Google the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. All claims go through the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program which is funded by the consumers through a tax on each and every dose of a vaccine.
I agree with the doctor’s comments on here in response to yours. And I’d add this. Once you have a history of autism, the pediatrician or ER would likely say that there was already autism.
Just to clarify for anyone reading this; you don’t need to ‘lie’ over religious exemption because you don’t have a religion…you can be against using contaminated animal and human parts for medicine, period, and claim religious exemption as a very honest belief. You can also file for philosophical exemption in most states still, that never requires explanation of why you are opposed morally, ethically, medically, or spiritually to these practices. You can be a non-violent, conscientious objector to causing deaths and brain injury, which all vaccines are known to do, so in a moral stance to protect those known deaths you can be philosophically against the program of vaccination with toxic chemicals known to cause cancer and disease. You also obviously could have obtained medical exemption due to the classic autism diagnosis, which wouldn’t be hard to come by, and would be the most firm legal exemption to have in place. My point is many people are, if they thought about it, philosphically or religiously opposed to this barbaric practice!! Vegans should realize they are anti-vaccine since there is not one shot that doesn’t carry DNA/RNA of animal and human cells, as should most world religions that oppose abortion, as should the ‘naturalists’ who are opposed to chemical/poisonous substances in their household, as should the pro-choice advocates who fight for a woman’s right to decide , as should environmentalists be against putting 25,000x the EPA safe level for mercury in drinking water to be contained within each flu shot dose, and should all the anti-discrimination activists be in an uproar since the MMR is proven to cause autism in black boys at a 340% increase to whites, as should foreign aid campaigners be against shots since the worst lots are sent to Africa where the malnutrioned receive more in the way of poisonous vaccines than they do clean water, nutrition, food, which really serves only to depopulate these destitute nations. Lots of people ethically and morally should be against our current toxic and contaminated biological agents used in vaccines, but as Gandhi put it, “There is nothing so closely connected with us as our body, but there is also nothing perhaps of which our ignorance is so profound, or our indifference so complete.”
Medical exemptions are very difficult to obtain in some states (New York, for instance) and religious exemptions can be tricky as well (again, New York prime example).
Also, watch out for the details. The INCREASE was 240% in the whistleblower info. That corresponds to a 3.4-fold risk. And to use the word “proven” is a bit strong. One study, no matter how good it is as “evidence” is not “proof.”
Amen!
My son is autistic and he had a reaction to a shot he had at age 1 and I knew something was wrong but he had already had a shot as a newborn for what reason I do not know. If I knew that I could have said no then he would not have had it. But he is now 7 and hasn’t had a ahit since he was 1 and I am afraid that if o get him any type of shit that he will regress and he has made so much progress over the years. I love your story and I hope that other parents can realize that this is something serious. I just hope that we as mothers can come together and support each other as special needs parents. Its a long journey into the unknown and we can get through it.
Go find yourself a classical homeopath and remove gluten, grain (oats, wheat, rye, barley), dairy and soy.
I am so sorry you had to go through this, Emily. Thank you for being brave enough to share this story. Your unintended experiment demonstrates two things: 1. Vaccines need to be made safer. 2. Vaccines trigger autism in some children, and we don’t know in advance which children this will happen to.
I’m confused… religious exemption – God doesn’t want anything toxic in our system that He did not created (GREATLY paraphrasing and summarizing)… THAT constitutes a religious exemption. Do you not believe in God? I’m confused.
I think it’s pretty obvious that she does not consider any objection she might have to vaccinations “religious” objections. Everyone’s religious views are their own, and it is no one else’s business what Emily’s religious views are.
Hi, I’m the author of this. It is my understanding that in my state, you have to name your religion on the exemption form and it has to be a religion that has a very known and public policy against vaccinations. So to do that would be a lie for me. Before this happened, I couldn’t talk myself into lying just because I had a “weird feeling”. Now, of course, I will do whatever it takes. Hope that answers your question.
That should not be true, Emily. The Supreme Court has said that your religion can be your PERSONAL religion. I have a religious exemption and I don’t belong to any organized religion at the moment.
I am so sorry this happened to your family. Please know that it is not too late to report this! And while you cannot sue the vaccine manufacturer, the doctor, or the school, you can file a suit through the VICP. I would suggest starting with a report to NVIC, and they will help you file with VAERS and with VICP if you choose.
NVIC reaction registry. – http://www.nvic.org/reportreaction.aspx
(This is from Judith at NVIC: “My main role is reaching out to families who have experienced vaccine reactions and gather information. In addition, our NVIC counselor Gina provides families with information for completing VAERS reports and filing with Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, along with extensive resources for help with vaccine injury.”
Thank you so much for sharing your story.
Amen! Great article.
I was told by my son’s school that he could not attend the fifth grade unless he got three HepB shots. I was not told that I could take a religious exemption. Like you, I thought he was old enough to endure three shots. (He, luckily, has the quirky kind of autism, so he can speak, although at 26, he is realizing that his life’s path and ability to get a job are as dismal as someone who has more severe problems.) After the third shot, he developed severe stomach pains. It wasn’t immediately afterward, so it didn’t even occur to me that there was a connection. But he grew steadily sicker and was sick for 10 months, unable to eat (he looked like a concentration camp victim), and he couldn’t attend school anyway.
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Your article was beautiful, heart wrenching, but also calm and non accusative. It was not too long, thank you for writing it! Tough journey I hope you and your family will begin to heal. There are so many areas where great progress is being made in the recovery process! Good luck to you!
My son Caleb was the picture of health for the first year of his life. At one year old I tried to wean him off breastmilk, and introduce him to cows milk.He developed symptoms such as drowsiness and nasal stuffiness with the cowsmilk.He developed his first ear infection at this time. He was prescribed ammoxicillin at this time. He screamed when I gave it to him The next day he was so covered with hives , he was almost unrecognizable. An apparent allergic reaction to ammoxicillan. The drowsiness and nasal stuffiness left when I stopped giving him the cows milk. He was talking in sentences until his 18 month mmr shots. After these shots he developed a fever which lasted about 6 weeks. This is when we learned he was also allergic to sulfa drugs.He lost his speech after those shots.. He then had tubes put in. The doctor said he wasnt talking, because he could not hear. WRONG. He is 13 now and has an occasional word, every now and then.Single words. MAYBE. You never can guess when they will come, or what they will be. Never sentences. People say, “well, if he doesnt speak, how does he communicate”? He just tries to show us what he wants by bringing us to it if possible. otherwise, we are just left to try and guess. He was diagnosed with autism-pddnos. love that nos part. The ppd shot caused my then 7 month old daughter, Sarah;s leg to swell and become very hot. She screamed all night. She is now 21. I had a completely normal pregnancy, followed by a completely normal delivery.{with both of these children}My daughter has never walked or talked. she suffers from daily seizures, and a severe, over all muscle delay. She also had a never ending need to chew on things, like her mouth was itchy. And she always tried to scratch her diaper area, like she had yeast, although there was no visible yeast infection. She also slept ALOT.{The itch started after I weaned her off breastmilk, and started giving her cowsmilk, which she seemed to love, as did my son. And the itch FINALLY went away after I realized what the cowsmilk was doing to my son, so I took it away from my daughter. She also stopped falling asleep continually throughout the day. We realized this would happen every time she drank cowsmilk. All of this for NO APPARENT REASON. The doctors say they cannot explain why my children are like this. I CAN. My oldest son is 14 years older than my youngest. My youngest son received more than triple the vaccinations my oldest son received.
I am so sorry. I hope you have some help caring for your precious children. God bless you all.
I had a similar experience with my boys with cow’s milk. Have you tried goat’s milk? I am considering that. They are grown, but I am still working and trying.
Turn your milk into KEFIR. KEFIR is full of probiotics and it loses it’s allergenicity through fermentation. Google to find the source where you can purchase KEFIR GRAINS. You will never regret it.
I have an autistic grand son.
So sorry this happened. Genetics don’t grow up . Damage can happen anytime. Have you had ID genetix testing done? It identifies medications our children can’t metabolize. Unbelievable technology from a cheek swab. Check it out . I was shocked at my sons results.
I read a couple of your posts a while ago and knew you were okay with vaccines so to read this now, I’m just so sorry.
I’m sorry you’ve gone through this…For me it was my last child (of 3) that I didn’t get any vaccinations for. When I was a child my mom sent me over to play with the sick kids so I’d get what ever disease they had was bring it home and share it with my sibs. My Mom figured that way she got it all at once (the sick kids) and then when it was done with she never had to be concerned again. So my last child was never vaccinated and when he was 21 he went to Bangladesh for 5 weeks so he went and got immunised, 3 months before he left. Within 2 weeks of his arrival he thought he was struggling with the heat and humidity of Bangladesh when he showed his fellow travellers his “Heat Rash” he was rushed to hospital and the best they could figure out was he had Atypical Measles…When he gets back to Canada he is consistently unwell and 2 years later is diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis. I suspect when he went for his immunizations he was give them all within a few weeks or days…No one talked to him about adverse reactions
Do you feel if you had given him his vaccinations on the recommended schedule that he would not have had a reaction?
He might not have had THAT specific reaction, but he might very well have had a much more severe reaction if he’d had the shots while his brain and immune system were developing. In general, it seems that young children tend to have the most severe reactions.
did you ever consider he got the measles because he got vaccinated so close to leaving? And just one injection? Immunity is not instant it takes time, and there are boosters also. You didn’t have him vaccinated, and so he had to do it himself and three months before going to the Third World. Don’t blame the vaccines.
Check out Kennedy press conference and Robert senior press conference Feb 2017 and then we’ll see what you have to say
Thank you for sharing your families experience. Like you, my mom thought people who didn’t vaccinate their children, were nuts. It wasn’t until my 4 and 6 month DPT shots, with which I suffered seizures, that my mom came to the conclusion that vaccines were unsafe, and carried with them more risk than benefit.
God bless you and your family.
Thank you for sharing your heartbreaking story-
Thank you for letting people know that vaccine injury can happen at any age…
May God restore your son’s health and his speech.
thank you for your #truth
my son has autism and reacted to the same shot. I, too, thought that he should be vaccinated, and dismissed the first reaction as a flu. I think instead of studying the causation, we need to push the science community to look at autism causing the reactions other than the other way around. I am a mom to a child on the spectrum and a diagnosed Aspie. We both react to vaccines.
It’s not AUTISM that causes the reactions. Many children with autism HAVE the reactions, but they often DIDN’T have autism UNTIL a reaction. The reason particular children are susceptible is because either their immune systems are more prone to inflammatory reactions in the first place, or they cannot efficiently detox the things that cause inflammatory reactions (such as the ingredients in vaccines), or both. Brain inflammation is a hallmark of autism and encephalopathy and encephalitis (brain inflammation) are table injuries of many vaccines, including MMR.
Thanks for your rational reply. All I could do was shake my head and think awful things about that poor woman, she doesn’t even understand what ‘causation’ means.
I think you are right, Jodi. I read this months ago, and found it again. I wonder what percentage of autistic children react to vaccines, as compared to typical children?
Dravets can cause autistic behavior. One in 4 children with Dravet’s Syndrome have severe reactions to vaccines. The very same condition used as a dismissal of reactions…”They have Dravet’s.”…is the same indicator that neurological impairment increases susceptibility to severe vaccine reactions by a factor of at least 250 times.I don’t understand the blindness to this. What is to be gained?
I’m not saying that vaccines reactions cause autism. I’m saying that “autism causes vaccine reactions.” Maybe if we studied that more carefully, we would be closer to knowing the causes of autism and be able to help. You are the only other person I have heard put it quite that way.
http://usethebrainsgodgiveyou.blogspot.com/2015/11/when-idea-becomes-obsession.html
It’s not logical to assume that autism causes vaccine reactions. As I pointed out earlier, many children did not have “autism” until they had severe vaccine reactions. That means that “autism” cannot have caused their reactions. What they had were genetic mutations and polymorphisms that make both vaccine reactions and autism more likely, with the vaccine reaction being a likely trigger for the autism.
There is a doctor with a practice (unspecified number of additional doctors) and FOR FORTY YEARS he has been treating children – and with OVER 35,000 children – for forty years – none of his patients/children were vaccinated AND THERE WERE ZERO CASES OF AUTISM IN HIS 35,000 PATIENTS WITHOUT VACCINES.
With current stats – he’d have over 350. Considering that historically the rate was lowe it would have to be adjusted down, but not being a statistician i have no clue as to how that would be done – and the relevance is not critical to his observations.
That’s Dr. Mayer Eisenstein of Homefirst Health Services in the Chicago area.
I read your story. I’m so very sorry this happened to your family. Stand your ground, he’s your child and it’s your right. xoxo
Oh wow, Emily. I did read till the very end and I am still floored by what you wrote. This is probably THE most empowering thing I’ve ever read. Do not let William’s story die out… Tell it… Re-tell it…then tell it more & more.
I will be passing this along! William wasn’t a guinea pig for just Cameron. He is serving everyone who will read this. Our 6 yr old son has very few traces (if any) left of autism, but a lot of sugary snacks at a get-together this weekend sky-rocketed his nasty, aggressive behavior in an instant and left us quite stunned.
Many thanks.
How did I not know this?
I love all of you!!!!!!!!!